Leverkusen (H) | CL | Post Match Thread

A number of posters in this thread feeling sorry for themselves because they travelled or paid money for hotels and trains. The simple solution is to not support a team who play in a different city or if you're from Manchester, don't move away. They deserve no more credit for attending last night than the lad who can see Mary D's from his kitchen window.
I agree completely with this.

In modern football fandom there’s too much virtue signalling “ooooh look at me and what I go through to support my (hugely successful) team.”

I’ve no time for any of it. You’re at the match because you enjoy going, simple as that. People trying to be the martyr moaning about traffic or trains or trams are just attention seekers in my book.
 
Recruitment is and has been poor. The club need to shake off the buy cheap make good players and buy 2/3 world class players in their position. How we go about this is anyone’s guess? seems hard to get the players we want so we buy next in line and unfortunately you will get duds. For every Alvarez you have 2 x sav type players.

Fix the recruitment and you win games. Tactics comes a distant second if you don’t buy what’s needed especially in a pep system. Football hasn’t moved on, the team had in the past amazing ball possession based players who made it tick. Didn’t matter who we faced. Counter attack will always remain a weakness in this system. Bad player only emphasis this.

Anyway, buy shit no matter who is in charge and you will get Inconsistent performances and that means losing games.

The club has become complacent and maybe that’s part of this journey but maybe it could have been avoided
 
I agree completely with this.

In modern football fandom there’s too much virtue signalling “ooooh look at me and what I go through to support my (hugely successful) team.”

I’ve no time for any of it. You’re at the match because you enjoy going, simple as that. People trying to be the martyr moaning about traffic or trains or trams are just attention seekers in my book.
LOL good one.
 
Recruitment is and has been poor. The club need to shake off the buy cheap make good players and buy 2/3 world class players in their position.
I don't agree about the recruitment, with some it's too early to really say, in some cases far too early.

Marmoush - started well, but don't feel he's improving, but he won't get much game time with Haaland here, not his fault.
Doku - world class in some games, third class in many, can be a good signing, but needs to learn about "team".
Savinho - started OK, has gone downhill after the first handful of games, last night a new low, seen enough.

Reis - will be a good player for us when he learns a bit more, which currently he is doing.
Echeverri - if he doesn't mess about, I think he's a good player, who made (or his agent did) a bad decision.
Khusanov - I think he'll become a favourite here, but give him time, and just been injured.
Gonzales - Already is a very good player.
Ait Nouri - Very unconvinced, but very early days.
Reijnders - Same as Ait Nouri, though has played more, and isn't impressing at the moment.
Cherki - Looks unfit (and uninterested at times to me), but I think will eventually be a very good signing.

Bah and Nypan - are for the future, so no opinion, as I've never seen them kick a ball.

Not sure what WC players we need to buy, the only BIG ones mentioned on here, I wouldn't touch with a barge pole, and would be disappointed if we signed them.
 
The game and the result were extremely unlucky; how many chances did Leverkusen have apart from the goals, maybe one or two?

Absolutely everything fell their way plus a huge amount of luck, while we had a huge amount of bad luck. It’s not just about XG, it’s about the countless exchanges we had in the box, the loose balls that, sometimes purely out of bad luck, didn’t turn into a goal or a direct threat. That escapes XG, but it’s still part of reality and of the probability of a given result in a match. It was practically the same with Newcastle, where in my opinion there was no real symmetry – away at a really tough ground we were, overall, the better team, we had much better chances; at the very least Foden (from Cherki’s pass) and Haaland twice (from Doku’s pass when Pope came out, and from O’Reilly’s pass when he hit Pope) had to score, plus there were no cards for obvious fouls and no penalties given, including the obvious one on Foden.

The rebuild is ongoing and on the right track. Structurally we look decent, we’re able to attack quicker. Pep and the staff aren’t going to put the ball in the net themselves. We’re playing in a way that creates chances. The players just need to be more efficient, period.

We need Rodri, we need a few players in much better form. But they won’t get into better form without playing. That’s why Pep decided that at home against Leverkusen, with our overall situation in the UCL being pretty good, we’d cope and that it was necessary to let the reserves play. It’s about their form, but also their morale. And their morale, as part of the team, affects the whole team. A football team is an organism – complex, because it’s made up of many people. On top of that, a special kind of people: top-class specialists in their profession with big egos. You have to manage that constantly, day in, day out, to keep them stimulated. City are fighting and will keep fighting on all fronts, the whole squad has to be ready for battle, even at the cost of slip-up defeats like yesterday’s.

The reward will be that over time Omar Marmoush or Khusanov or others will look better, and that could be crucial. Yesterday Bobb already played pretty well; examples like that will keep multiplying, we have a high-quality squad. The sadness is understandable, it’s a second defeat in a row, but the reasons for the loss are clear to me – it will get better.
Bobb played pretty well? He was awfully bad mate!
 
Tried to defend at lead at Monaco for a large percentage of the 2nd half when City were in top.
Changing 10 players yesterday against Leverkusen who are 3rd in the Bundesliga.
 
After tonight’s round of games, we sit 9th. However we are on same points as the team in 6th. Hopefully we can recover our mojo and get into that automatic top 8IMG_1968.png
 
Maybe the problem is Pep ball.
In our last 2 matches we've completed around 1100 passes and scored 1 goal.

Arsenal have made fewer than 650 passes and put 4 past Spurs, 3 past Bayern Munich.

Just think how effective they'd be if only they could 'dominate' the ball like we must have done...
 

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