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Coatigan said:
Well then I dare comfortably guess the reports coming from Spain are horseshit. As they usually tend to be.

I can see there being a limit to how much of a pay cut an employee can take, in general, to protect people from being exploited. But Messi's contract with Barcelona finished over 2 years ago, I find it completely illogical that it has any relevance to the wage he could agree now.

You seem confident and fair play to you. As I keep saying, rather you were right. I expect him to go for the money. I'd love to be wrong. Time wil tell.
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But they can look at Messi's last contract with PSG. Apparently this rule exists as to prevent teams from escaping the Financial Fair Play by signing small contracts but then handing out extra money below the table.

I'm not confident Messi will sign with Barca. I'm confident that's what Messi wants to do. If he doesn't sign with Barca, it will be because Barca didn't get the OK from La Liga, not because Messi preferred the money.
 
River Plate said:
But they can look at Messi's last contract with PSG. Apparently this rule exists as to prevent teams from escaping the Financial Fair Play by signing small contracts but then handing out extra money below the table.

I'm not confident Messi will sign with Barca. I'm confident that's what Messi wants to do. If he doesn't sign with Barca, it will be because Barca didn't get the OK from La Liga, not because Messi preferred the money.
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Dude that's utter muck, you telling me big Phil Jones and Jessie lingards next contracts have to be similar to their current ones? Pogba dropped 100k a week to return to juve. Barca issue is the wages of their first team is rising quicker then la liga allows, too many free transfers on huge wages, and the fact that so many of their top youth players had to be registered as 1st teamers.
 
River Plate said:
But they can look at Messi's last contract with PSG. Apparently this rule exists as to prevent teams from escaping the Financial Fair Play by signing small contracts but then handing out extra money below the table.

I'm not confident Messi will sign with Barca. I'm confident that's what Messi wants to do. If he doesn't sign with Barca, it will be because Barca didn't get the OK from La Liga, not because Messi preferred the money.
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The first just makes no sense. Sorry, but saying they can't offer lower wages than a previous contract, for another club, in another league, in another country? C'mon, you don't really believe that do you.

I can believe messi wanting to play for Barcelona again. Or wanting to stay in Europe/CL as well. But for big money.

And not because La Liga would make Barcelona pay him a set amount, which just doesn't sound plausible at all, but because that's what he wants. If he gets it, he will stay. If he doesn't, I think he'll go where he can get it. The rest is just a story his camp are spinning.
 
It suits the narrative at Barcelona that Messi wants to come home but big bad La Liga say no.
What a load of shit
 
dachoosen1 said:
Dude that's utter muck, you telling me big Phil Jones and Jessie lingards next contracts have to be similar to their current ones? Pogba dropped 100k a week to return to juve. Barca issue is the wages of their first team is rising quicker then la liga allows, too many free transfers on huge wages, and the fact that so many of their top youth players had to be registered as 1st teamers.
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That's what they are reporting.
 
bluemoon32 said:
It suits the narrative at Barcelona that Messi wants to come home but big bad La Liga say no.
What a load of shit
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dachoosen1 said:
Dude that's utter muck, you telling me big Phil Jones and Jessie lingards next contracts have to be similar to their current ones? Pogba dropped 100k a week to return to juve. Barca issue is the wages of their first team is rising quicker then la liga allows, too many free transfers on huge wages, and the fact that so many of their top youth players had to be registered as 1st teamers.
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Coatigan said:
The first just makes no sense. Sorry, but saying they can't offer lower wages than a previous contract, for another club, in another league, in another country? C'mon, you don't really believe that do you.

I can believe messi wanting to play for Barcelona again. Or wanting to stay in Europe/CL as well. But for big money.

And not because La Liga would make Barcelona pay him a set amount, which just doesn't sound plausible at all, but because that's what he wants. If he gets it, he will stay. If he doesn't, I think he'll go where he can get it. The rest is just a story his camp are spinning.
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This is from when Messi first left Barca, but I guess it is the same rule that is applying today:

"It broke Messi's heart and once again he feels betrayed by the club he has given so much to. Barcelona had asked him to accept a 50% reduction in wages and he accepted without even trying to negotiate it.

'In fact a 50% reduction is the legal maximum anyone can be compelled to take, so even if Messi had been prepared to accept a bigger reduction, the club would have been breaking the law had they agreed to it.'"

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River Plate said:
This is from when Messi first left Barca, but I guess it is the same rule that is applying today:

"It broke Messi's heart and once again he feels betrayed by the club he has given so much to. Barcelona had asked him to accept a 50% reduction in wages and he accepted without even trying to negotiate it.

'In fact a 50% reduction is the legal maximum anyone can be compelled to take, so even if Messi had been prepared to accept a bigger reduction, the club would have been breaking the law had they agreed to it.'"

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That's for a contract renewal not a new transfer man.
 
dachoosen1 said:
That's for a contract renewal not a new transfer man.
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No, it's not. This is from this year, but it is in Spanish.

"En los estamentos del organismo se aclara que cuando un club ficha un futbolista se toma como base salarial de cálculo “al menos el 50%” de lo que percibió en sus últimas dos temporadas. Es decir, que para las cuentas de La Liga, Messi cobrará en Barcelona no menos de la mitad de lo que cobra actualmente en PSG (USD 44,3 millones). Este mecanismo funciona para evitar una trampa ya que el ente descree que en un jugador sea capaz de rebajarse tanto su salario de un año a otro."

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Basically it says that a player can't be signed for less than 50% of what they made the previous 2 years. Messi, having made 44,3 millions dollars, can be signed for half that at the cheapest, and that's still too expensive for Barcelona.
 
River Plate said:
No, it's not. This is from this year, but it is in Spanish.

"En los estamentos del organismo se aclara que cuando un club ficha un futbolista se toma como base salarial de cálculo “al menos el 50%” de lo que percibió en sus últimas dos temporadas. Es decir, que para las cuentas de La Liga, Messi cobrará en Barcelona no menos de la mitad de lo que cobra actualmente en PSG (USD 44,3 millones). Este mecanismo funciona para evitar una trampa ya que el ente descree que en un jugador sea capaz de rebajarse tanto su salario de un año a otro."

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Basically it says that a player can't be signed for less than 50% of what they made the previous 2 years. Messi, having made 44,3 millions dollars, can be signed for half that at the cheapest, and that's still too expensive for Barcelona.
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No way Mbappe is going to Madrid then :)
 
My wild guess is that Messi would end up at Barcelona. Messi would float the talks of English clubs, and Tebas would come around after entertaining the ideas that Messi might be in the clutches of the nouveau riche and that his only marketable player is his best friend Vinicius Jr.
 
14aguero said:
My wild guess is that Messi would end up at Barcelona. Messi would float the talks of English clubs, and Tebas would come around after entertaining the ideas that Messi might be in the clutches of the nouveau riche and that his only marketable player is his best friend Vinicius Jr.
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As you say WILD.

He is a greedy little scrub, Saudi it will be.
 
Keeper! said:
As you say WILD.

He is a greedy little scrub, Saudi it will be.
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Or that. He is undeniably one.

I am hoping for the best out of the situation, which is that he would at Barcelona reproduce the selfish play he showed at PSG. Mbappe and Neymar did the running for him while Messi stayed in offside position near oppositions' penalty area, so much as I actually felt a little sorry for Mbappe and Neymar. Messi at Barcelona would stunt what little progress that club have made in their rebuild.
 
River Plate said:
This is from when Messi first left Barca, but I guess it is the same rule that is applying today:

"It broke Messi's heart and once again he feels betrayed by the club he has given so much to. Barcelona had asked him to accept a 50% reduction in wages and he accepted without even trying to negotiate it.

'In fact a 50% reduction is the legal maximum anyone can be compelled to take, so even if Messi had been prepared to accept a bigger reduction, the club would have been breaking the law had they agreed to it.'"

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So it is Not what they are claiming then. It is what they claimed 2 years ago, and you are guessing it still applies today. Now I am 100% convinced it is wrong.

EDIT. seen your subsequent post, ok it is not you guessing, it is a claim by someone else. Which I still struggle to believe.

Let's pretend it is true (makes zero sense). His dad is wasting his time as are Barcelona pretending they want the move. His focus could be on elsewhere in Europe that doesn't have such a bizarre posdibly fictional rule, the US, or Saudi. Where do you think he'll end up.
 
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@River Plate , this below at the end also mentions that 50% 'rule' as it was claimed 2 years ago, but then states that this year it is up to Messi, with no attempt to link the previous claim to his PSG contract. Which is a lot more believable.

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Explained: Can Barcelona actually afford to sign Lionel Messi this summer? | Goal.com UK

La Liga have denied Barcelona's proposal for the return of Lionel Messi, casting doubt as to whether a deal to sign the Paris Saint-Germain star can be reached this summer
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When this was suggested two years ago, someone on here pointed out it wasn't a La Liga rule, but a general Spanish law to stop employees being exploited. And some also claimed it wouldn't apply to Messi back then, as he had terminated his contract and could sign a new one at any amount, i.e it only applied to enforced pay cuts.

Either way, apart from the infobae (whatever that is) article nobody else seems to have tried to link that claim from 2 years ago, to a new player coming from another league/country. Reads like a poor assumption on their part. Given there is an article in a more widely recognised sports paper that suggests otherwise, I feel comfortable questioning it. And am slightly intrigued. Sounds like a lot of excuses being set, but let's see how it plays out.
 
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