Respect.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
Liverpool 2016/17
- Thread starter blueincy
- Start date
- Status
- Not open for further replies.
Few issues, firstly we don't have owners who would spend 500+ million on a stadium. The 2 phase project to get Anfield to 59000 is costing half that. Yes, its not really enough and its basically only adding 14000 seats, but is typical of FSG, everything is done in half measures. Secondly and I might need the tin hat for saying this, but Anfield is already iconic. The club is sold to fans around the World on Anfield and the Kop, when you aren't winning trophies you need something unique and Anfield is it. It is special and World-famous, even if the reality doesn't match the legend most of the time.
You're actually trying to tell me that Liverpool, the most famous club in history, with millions of fans around the world can't afford a new stadium? Bullshit. Your owners are cheap cunts and don't want to pay for one and it's an extremely short sighted view.
Of course Anfield is iconic, but no more than the Wembley of the North, which although it's been knocked down still holds English top flight attendance records.
Anfield is also not fit for purpose. It's a 20th century ground in a 21st century world. Other fans laugh at you when you go on about your history, especially when you're so selective about it. Anfield wasn't even your ground to start with, just like YNWA wasn't your song. Taking solace in Anfield being world famous and unique is a poor substitute for actually winning trophies.
You should stop living in the past, embrace what a new stadium with better infrastructure could bring you. You could even build it somewhere that was easy to get to and not in the middle of one of the most deprived areas of Liverpool.
Of course, a once every few years occasion of singing 'YNWA' loudly prior to kick off and waving a few flags around on those "famous Anfield European nights" doesn't quite match up to being spat on and having your coaches bricked does it.
It's like paying to see a 55 year old Madonna.
A lot of clubs have started singing a song and waving a few flags about though havent they TG? Why is that, if not to add colour and atmosphere?
And you can denigrate the "famous European nights", but they weren't just dreamed up out of nowhere.
Spitting and bricking coaches, bet there isn't a club out there where that hasn't happened.
aguero93:20
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 21 Oct 2013
- Messages
- 90,256
- Location
- Hunting Cats.
- Team supported
- Some gobshites in day-glo green and black.
The 2 phase project to get Anfield to 59000 is costing half that. Yes, its not really enough and its basically only adding 14000 seats, but is typical of FSG, everything is done in half measures.
Typical of FSG too, that it's made as a loan and not an investment.
That's what I just said.....our owners won't do it, as they deal in half-measures, you are actually agreeing with me!!!You're actually trying to tell me that Liverpool, the most famous club in history, with millions of fans around the world can't afford a new stadium? Bullshit. Your owners are cheap cunts and don't want to pay for one and it's an extremely short sighted view.
Of course Anfield is iconic, but no more than the Wembley of the North, which although it's been knocked down still holds English top flight attendance records.
Anfield is also not fit for purpose. It's a 20th century ground in a 21st century world. Other fans laugh at you when you go on about your history, especially when you're so selective about it. Anfield wasn't even your ground to start with, just like YNWA wasn't your song. Taking solace in Anfield being world famous and unique is a poor substitute for actually winning trophies.
You should stop living in the past, embrace what a new stadium with better infrastructure could bring you. You could even build it somewhere that was easy to get to and not in the middle of one of the most deprived areas of Liverpool.
Anfield has been ours since Liverpool FC came into being, regardless of Everton being there. YNWA has been done too many times and I never took solace in Anfield, I said it is used to attract fans from around the World, which we still do despite not winning trophies. I go to Anfield for football not facilities to be honest, but yeah, I'm old-fashioned.
I go to Anfield for football not facilities to be honest, but yeah, I'm old-fashioned.
As long as your happy with your memories and mid table mediocrity you'll be happy.
casserole of nonsense
Well-Known Member
Few issues, firstly we don't have owners who would spend 500+ million on a stadium. The 2 phase project to get Anfield to 59000 is costing half that. Yes, its not really enough and its basically only adding 14000 seats, but is typical of FSG, everything is done in half measures. Secondly and I might need the tin hat for saying this, but Anfield is already iconic. The club is sold to fans around the World on Anfield and the Kop, when you aren't winning trophies you need something unique and Anfield is it. It is special and World-famous, even if the reality doesn't match the legend most of the time.
It's interesting to draw the parallels between Anfield and Fenway Park. Despite the worldwide fan base and brand recognition of the Red Sox, Fenway Park is old and its capacity will always be constrained by its location in Boston. The park has been renovated or expanded many times since 1912, resulting in quirky but ultimately unsatisfactory stadium facilities.
I work a fair bit in Boston and have been to a few Red Sox games. Fans in Boston feel frustrated that the Sox franchise is too focused on 'iconic' Fenway and its history and is not looking to take the necessary steps to build a new stadium, increase capacity and move the franchise forwards to challenge the NY Yankees in NE USA. Sites in Boston suburbs, such as Framingham, have been suggested for a new, state-of-the-art stadium. Fenway is the second smallest MLB stadium by capacity and one of only eight that cannot accommodate even 40,000 spectators.
Meanwhile, the Red Sox have their moments but flatter to deceive and fail to live up to their main rivals, the NY Yankees.
As long as your happy with your memories and mid table mediocrity you'll be happy.
No Stony, I am far from happy. I am one of those "this is our year" fans, every season I expect us to win the League. I was 22 when we last won it, I'm 48 now and every year the frustration gets worse! If we had won it in in 2014, I would have gladly given up my seasie and let the younger lot go. I've got high blood pressure because those f**kers can't win us the League...
casserole of nonsense
Well-Known Member
Of course Anfield is iconic, but no more than the Wembley of the North, which although it's been knocked down still holds English top flight attendance records.
Vale Park is/was known as the Wembley of the North?
Vale Park is/was known as the Wembley of the North?
Maine Road was known as The Wembley of the North.
casserole of nonsense
Well-Known Member
Bet you would't have given up your season ticket. You'd have been back for more, you know you would! When Mancini won us the FA Cup and then the league the year after, I thought "right, I've seen all I wanted to see, all I dreamed of seeing through all those miserable years, I'm stopping now, we'll never top the Aguero moment". But I'm still there every week, home and away, even those horrible UEFA matches.No Stony, I am far from happy. I am one of those "this is our year" fans, every season I expect us to win the League. I was 22 when we last won it, I'm 48 now and every year the frustration gets worse! If we had won it in in 2014, I would have gladly given up my seasie and let the younger lot go. I've got high blood pressure because those f**kers can't win us the League...
casserole of nonsense
Well-Known Member
Also Vale Park https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_Park and seemingly Roker Park and a proposed ground for Derby County...Maine Road was known as The Wembley of the North.
Bet you would't have given up your season ticket. You'd have been back for more, you know you would! When Mancini won us the FA Cup and then the league the year after, I thought "right, I've seen all I wanted to see, all I dreamed of seeing through all those miserable years, I'm stopping now, we'll never top the Aguero moment". But I'm still there every week, home and away, even those horrible UEFA matches.
You're probably right, hard to walk away.......your Aguero moment, even I went crazy when he scored that, you'll never top it as a single moment. We had the reverse, Michael Thomas in 89!!
Those UEFA matches will be worth it if you win it.
casserole of nonsense
Well-Known Member
The Aguero moment would have been the time to walk away, wouldn't it? But I couldn't, not for want of thinking seriously about it. I look around me at home matches now and I don't like what I see. Aways are still good, mainly because it's the time-served and devoted that get the tickets and some of the grounds are still proper.You're probably right, hard to walk away.......your Aguero moment, even I went crazy when he scored that, you'll never top it as a single moment. We had the reverse, Michael Thomas in 89!!
Those UEFA matches will be worth it if you win it.
I'm not sure I care whether we win the UEFA thing, that ain't what it used to be either.
You're probably right, hard to walk away.......your Aguero moment, even I went crazy when he scored that, you'll never top it as a single moment. We had the reverse, Michael Thomas in 89!!
Those UEFA matches will be worth it if you win it.
I had just moved to Barnsley at the time, and I warned my lad that the pub would be full of rags and not to rub it in too much if we won. We were the only blues in the pub and they had two screens, one with the rags/sunderland game and another in the main bar with City/Qpr.
When the final whistle went at Sunderland a huge fucking cheer went up from the back of the pub with all the local rags jumping up and down. Then you know what happened. I cheered, but I still didn't really let go until the final whistle, years of seeing us fuck up had seen to that. When it did blow and I saw Joe Hart launch that ball, it was fucking indescribable. We were the only blues in the pub and every single person who wasn't a rag came up to us and shook our hands. Barnsley fans, both sheff clubs, Leeds, Liverpool fans(more than a few) even gooners. I didn't take my own advice and was bouncing up and down in a rapidly emptying back room as all the local rags scuttled off home. I will admit that the local rag I had been talking to throughout the game was magnanimous in defeat. What a fucking day.
Liverpool were at Swansea, we had just conceded in a 1-0 defeat, you were 2-1 down, United 1-0 up. Absolute shocker of a last day. then Dzeko, teased it and when Aguero scored, small-time or not, I celebrated that goal like a lunatic. Never done that for a non-Liverpool goal before, partly because it was incredible, but mainly because you twatted them in the process. How it must have felt for you lads, I can't even imagine.
Liverpool were at Swansea, we had just conceded in a 1-0 defeat, you were 2-1 down, United 1-0 up. Absolute shocker of a last day. then Dzeko, teased it and when Aguero scored, small-time or not, I celebrated that goal like a lunatic. Never done that for a non-Liverpool goal before, partly because it was incredible, but mainly because you twatted them in the process. How it must have felt for you lads, I can't even imagine.
Indescribable. I remember going away to Bury and more City fans being in Gigg lane than Bury fans and we still fucked up. Winning the league less than 15 years later was unbelievable. When I started supporting City, Mike Summerbee was in his pomp. When I first took my lad, Nicky Summerbee was playing for us.
Paul Lake's Left Knee
Well-Known Member
Liverpool were at Swansea, we had just conceded in a 1-0 defeat, you were 2-1 down, United 1-0 up. Absolute shocker of a last day. then Dzeko, teased it and when Aguero scored, small-time or not, I celebrated that goal like a lunatic. Never done that for a non-Liverpool goal before, partly because it was incredible, but mainly because you twatted them in the process. How it must have felt for you lads, I can't even imagine.
Not small time, I've had people from all sorts of teams tell me they celebrated that moment harder than any goal not from their side. The drama of the moment, the fact that it was the rags, all contributed to it.
hutton who blue
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 27 Apr 2012
- Messages
- 1,630
We were teased the last few weeks of that season. Hearing the rags were beaten away while we beat West Brom at home and our fans walking home were thinking of the permutations of what could happen when Everton played the rags was one of the most enjoyable experiences I've enjoyed as a football fan. The permutations and then what occurred was the most delirious, delicious and enjoyable day when we played QPR.
casserole of nonsense
Well-Known Member
I had just moved to Barnsley at the time, and I warned my lad that the pub would be full of rags and not to rub it in too much if we won. We were the only blues in the pub and they had two screens, one with the rags/sunderland game and another in the main bar with City/Qpr.
When the final whistle went at Sunderland a huge fucking cheer went up from the back of the pub with all the local rags jumping up and down. Then you know what happened. I cheered, but I still didn't really let go until the final whistle, years of seeing us fuck up had seen to that. When it did blow and I saw Joe Hart launch that ball, it was fucking indescribable. We were the only blues in the pub and every single person who wasn't a rag came up to us and shook our hands. Barnsley fans, both sheff clubs, Leeds, Liverpool fans(more than a few) even gooners. I didn't take my own advice and was bouncing up and down in a rapidly emptying back room as all the local rags scuttled off home. I will admit that the local rag I had been talking to throughout the game was magnanimous in defeat. What a fucking day.
Why are there so many rags in Barnsley, Stony? Both my Barnsley cousins are rags, both no reason to be, both never been to the swamp. What's going on?
- Status
- Not open for further replies.