Liverpool (H) - Post-Match Thread

[sir baconface]

Fuck.
Lots of querulous wet fanny wipes flapping all over the thread, and all of them 2@s know better than Pep, accusing him of cowardice and whatnot.
The fact that they are completely ignoring: the corrupt exertions of one dipper **** Pawson and his beloved divers, that make our lads cautious not to lose the game; proves them under covered rags or mickeys.
Don't feed the dipper scum.

I blame the lizards.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

That Jesus goal! Made Arnold look a right **** with his turn. For those of a more mature age, it was vintage Kempes at the 1978 world cup

If he did mean that first touch you have to have it up there with Bergkamp’s effort against Newcastle back in the early 2000s as a piece of skill.

 

[M18CTID]

When I saw that Liverpool line-up it was clear they were going to go for the jugular and try to kill the game off early doors. I must admit that after the first 10 or 15 minutes I thought we were going to get mullered but once we got a foothold in the game following their goal it turned in our favour and we really should've taken all 3 points in the end as they were there for the taking IMO. I'm not too despondent with a point though - home advantage counts for far less with no fans allowed in the ground and I think we're perfectly capable of going there and turning them over in their own backyard. In any case, it won't just come down to that as us and Liverpool aren't going to have it all our own way this season. This title race is wide open for me.

 

[City Raider]

Played 2 teams ahead of us in league and they’ve been given 3 penalties.

 

[bluealf]

Played 2 teams ahead of us in league and they’ve been given 3 penalties.

In all fairness what can you expect when defenders do that in the box, it was dumb v Leicester and then Walker learned no lessons from it with Mane, who would fall over with a sneeze given the chance.

 

[JRockBlues]

I blame the lizards.

After being banned from Facebook I see that David Icke is alive and well and now moved over to BM. You are he & I claim my £5.

 

[If I die in the Kippax St]

Just wondering re sky they do a red button service for the match without crowd noise

would it be possible to do a green button service for match without Carragher
He is so so biased and spoils my enjoyment. He doesn’t shut up when Liverpool are on top and then is completely silent when City are

I wonder If I started a nationwide petition how many would sign up

There should not be any ex players doing match commentary on games where they have played a significant part of their career for the clubs involved. As far as match punditry goes we have to put up with spit the dog and one half of the chuckle brothers and a wannabe boxer plus that twat Keane so that’s bad enough. Thank god micah has made it onto the pundits bench because the current level of bias beggars belief.

 

[If I die in the Kippax St]

Thought we played well especially defensively, Kyle Walker being the exception. He knew what he was doing initiating the unnecessary "contact" giving Mane the opportunity to go down and the ref to make an easy decision. If it had been at the other end we'd be screaming for a spot kick even though that ref would have had other ideas. Raz didn't go down because he wasn't in the box otherwise I reckon he would be trying for the pen. Agree with everyone that Kev needs a rest and I hope his country will see that too. Without a creative partner in midfield and being skipper he puts more on himself and his frustration is there for us all to see. We miss Merlin but wasn't Foden supposed to be a direct replacement ? Why play 2 defensive midfielders when we used to have 1 in Fern ?

Because fern is better than both of them put together

 

[sir baconface]

Played 2 teams ahead of us in league and they’ve been given 3 penalties.

A long shot here but maybe they were for fouls we committed in the box.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Fuck me, I wish they had discussed past penalty incidents at a field as much as this, fucking disgrace from sky talking about the penalty for the over 15 mins, barely a mention of the foul on sterling

I can understand why the foul on Raheem wasn't given.
The initial foul was outside the 18 yd box. If Raheem had gone down then, I don't doubt that he would have got a free kick.
As it was, he continued his stumbling run into the box , the ball got away from him and he went down.
Contrary to popular belief I think that the ref made the correct decision.
Now if, on the other hand, Sterling had gone down under the initial challenge...

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

I see the MEN is saying that Klopp has explained his tactical masterplan that confused Pep and City! Rather surprising since I think everyone on bluemoon worked it out as soon as they clapped eyes on the Liverpool team.

 

[hgblue]

I can understand why the foul on Raheem wasn't given.
The initial foul was outside the 18 yd box. If Raheem had gone down then, I don't doubt that he would have got a free kick.
As it was, he continued his stumbling run into the box , the ball got away from him and he went down.
Contrary to popular belief I think that the ref made the correct decision.
Now if, on the other hand, Sterling had gone down under the initial challenge...

Presumably the referee thought that stumbling to your knees and losing possession of the ball is a sufficient advantage to keep the game going? Makes him a pretty shit referee imo.

 

[Akpowell]

Played 2 teams ahead of us in league and they’ve been given 3 penalties.

Thought it was 4

 

[WARBABY]

Keane talking about Trent...fuksake...

What the River?

 

[M18CTID]

Regarding our penalty, I thought the lengthy discussions amongst the panel were OTT - is it just me or have we seen those given in the past way before these new handball rules came in? Sure, they weren't always given but some were and for me it's more of a pen than some of the others that have been debated of late. I'm not saying Gomez deliberately handballed it but he was sufficiently far away from De Bruyne when the ball came in to take some kind of evasive action to avoid it hitting his elbow, no matter how much he tries to tell us all how much Kev put his foot through the ball. He only tried to take evasive action afterwards with that guilty looking attempt to pull his arm away. Liverpool got a penalty in the CL final against Spurs in 2019 for something similar and it was nowhere near as shit a decision to award ours on Sunday as it was for that useless fat **** Dowd to award one to Liverpool in the League Cup semi at Anfield in 2012 against Micah when the ball deflected onto his arm from point blank range.

 

[Bluemanc100]

I nearly collapsed today... A Dipper saw my City screensaver on my phone as we were checking into the local garden centre for lunch... He said "We were lucky not to lose on Sunday... I was so relieved when Foden didn't come on"

I nearly fell over in shock then SWMBO (also afflicted) said "he's talking rubbish" when he left ;-)

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Regarding our penalty, I thought the lengthy discussions amongst the panel were OTT - is it just me or have we seen those given in the past way before these new handball rules came in? Sure, they weren't always given but some were and for me it's more of a pen than some of the others that have been debated of late. I'm not saying Gomez deliberately handballed it but he was sufficiently far away from De Bruyne when the ball came in to take some kind of evasive action to avoid it hitting his elbow, no matter how much he tries to tell us all how much Kev put his foot through the ball. He only tried to take evasive action afterwards with that guilty looking attempt to pull his arm away. Liverpool got a penalty in the CL final against Spurs in 2019 for something similar and it was nowhere near as shit a decision to award ours on Sunday as it was for that useless fat **** Dowd to award one to Liverpool in the League Cup semi at Anfield in 2012 against Micah when the ball deflected onto his arm from point blank range.

It was a clear penalty. It did not - as Carragher asserts - hit TAA on the elbow but smack bang on the forearm which was turning towards the ball. His arm was at right angles to his body and not in a natural running position (he was actually putting in a little jump, which suggests intent) and his body was turning towards the ball which made the contact deliberate. KdB was not near enough for the claim that the ball was hit so hard that TAA could not get out of the way holds any water. The pundits can wring their hands and argue that it's harsh and it wouldn't have been given last year, but as the Leicester-Wolves match (and many others) showed, this season those penalties are ALWAYS given, even (most of the time) against Liverpool (away!).

PS I know ref's (and VAR) can't take it into consideration but TAA has "history" with handball against us.

 

[JRockBlues]

Can't believe that there is any kind of controversy over our penalty (not that it even matters as it was missed anyway). Gomez's hand was in no way in a natural position. Maybe if he was running at full pelt then yes it could be so argued. In that instance he wasn't. It was the very definition of making your silhouette bigger.

 

[M18CTID]

It was a clear penalty. It did not - as Carragher asserts - hit TAA on the elbow but smack bang on the forearm which was turning towards the ball. His arm was at right angles to his body and not in a natural running position (he was actually putting in a little jump, which suggests intent) and his body was turning towards the ball which made the contact deliberate. KdB was not near enough for the claim that the ball was hit so hard that TAA could not get out of the way holds any water. The pundits can wring their hands and argue that it's harsh and it wouldn't have been given last year, but as the Leicester-Wolves match (and many others) showed, this season those penalties are ALWAYS given, even (most of the time) against Liverpool (away!).

PS I know ref's (and VAR) can't take it into consideration but TAA has "history" with handball against us.

Great post apart from the fact that it was Gomez who handled it and not Terence Trent Arnold or whatever the fuck he’s called!

 

[give it to gordon]

The thing is before they got their penalty Sterling was clearly pushed in the back, its wasnt shoulder to shoulder it was a shoulder into the back of Sterling. A clear free kick to City ( cant remember if it was in the box but it was close). I dont understand how VAR didnt review it and award City a free kick. VAR took an age to award City a clear penalty under the new rules, even made the ref go and look at pitch side. Yet I cant remember VAR taking long to award liverpool their penalty. We know if that shoulder in the back was on Mane or Salah the ref would have blown before they had reached the ground !.
The pundits were begging VAR not to award the clear handball penalty to City it was embarrassing to listen to.

We are clearly ref'd different to the teams in red, and it's not even subtle its blatant.