Liverpool (H) - Post-Match Thread

People were taking about evolution, he’s doing that and rebuilding, starting like any top manager would, from the back...

it is a top class left back away from being as good as anything in Europe... we’ve genuinely just been spoilt with our attacking exploits over the last 3 years, he’s tweaking it to counter how teams invariably gain success against us.....

Any good manager, be it in McDonald’s or transferable to sport, reacts to a cause of lack of productivity, yet he’s being hammered for evolving... this is 2017 all over again, he’s laying the foundation for the long game!

All very good points and I said in a previous post that he was rebuilding the spine. If he’s in it for the long game then it’s easy, sign the contract !
 
We are still on a serious hangover from the Lyon game...No one seems to able to push on from it and it's killed us dead...Unless we get someone with some bollocks in the squad to ruffle a few feathers and lead from the front we will be lucky to finish top 6 as we look bereft of guidence all over the pitch

Some shameful shit this.
 
Positives , laporte and Diaz looking a good combination cancelo improving with every game and jesus mom performance least said about some of are other players.Why does a draw feel like a defeat?
 
Sorry guys but I thought we were to pedestrian,forwards were static,no diagonal runs off the ball,Walker has been 9/10 this season today dross.I am getting ready for the howls of derision but Kev,was on par with Walker,nothing worked.Pleased with the back line looking good,and can only get better.Now a special word for the ref,take your red shirt off now you on par with Oliver and Clatterbox,bought and paid for.
 
Bit pissed off after that, defiantly 2 points dropped, if we win the game in hand it still leaves us 3 points off the top which could have been down to a single point with a win today. A great position bearing in mind we haven't been playing well.

The first 20 min and Walkers cock up apart, Liverpool were there for the taking, Pep needed to be more positive from the start, Liverpool should be scared of us, not us of them which is exactly how we looked from the line-up and set up.

Great to see Jesus back, took his goal well, he just wasn't given enough ball, Cancello looks like he could make the left back spot his own, Dias and Laporte look a great pairing.

KDB, Silva and Sterling look well off form, Rodri seems to get confused when he's paired with Gundogan, he should be 10 yards in front of the defence and needs to have creative players picking the ball off him, not wondering if he should stick or twist and what Gundogan is going to do.

As for Pep's subs, get them done sooner could have made all the difference
 
People were taking about evolution, he’s doing that and rebuilding, starting like any top manager would, from the back...

it is a top class left back away from being as good as anything in Europe... we’ve genuinely just been spoilt with our attacking exploits over the last 3 years, he’s tweaking it to counter how teams invariably gain success against us.....

Any good manager, be it in McDonald’s or transferable to sport, reacts to a cause of lack of productivity, yet he’s being hammered for evolving... this is 2017 all over again, he’s laying the foundation for the long game!

My man.
 
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People were taking about evolution, he’s doing that and rebuilding, starting like any top manager would, from the back...

it is a top class left back away from being as good as anything in Europe... we’ve genuinely just been spoilt with our attacking exploits over the last 3 years, he’s tweaking it to counter how teams invariably gain success against us.....

Any good manager, be it in McDonald’s or transferable to sport, reacts to a cause of lack of productivity, yet he’s being hammered for evolving... this is 2017 all over again, he’s laying the foundation for the long game!

I hope you are right; not least because I agree with you (not for the first time).
 
Why the fuck did we need a time machine? Foden was ready to come on at 80 minutes... I’ve only got a GCSE in maths but I make that a full 14 minutes before the full-time whistle...

And what happens if Foden comes on and distrupts the shape and we concede?

In your head he comes on scores the winner and that's all on Pep lol.
 
Klopp just said after 10 min every player on the pitch was gasping for breath, can someone explain why
 
Clever reffing for a team in red.

Very few ridiculous decisions but a steady stream of fouls for them that looked softer than what he needed to see to give us a foul.

The giving Raheem advantage but not pulling it back when there was none. He’d pulled one back for them a short time before.

What was also noticeable to me was the lack of replays of fouls on a good few occasions - my cycnical self tells me that it’s because they don’t want to make these little errors to be scrutinised further.
It does feel that way, the number of times I thought the referee had bought one yet they did not show a replay was very suspicious. I get so frustrated with referees giving everything when players go to ground yet nothing when they try to stay on their feet, as Raheem did before the penalty.

There was a dive and roll in our penalty area from Salad in the second half I would have loved to see again. I was screaming at the TV to book him for simulation.
 
It borders on old fashioned going back to basics and there's nothing wrong with that.

I think the defensive quality has improved enormously, but not due to tactics. We were wide open in centre mid & also kept giving the ball away in our own half.

Going forward, we are currently slow & predictable & a danger to ourselves.
 
Sky interview with Gonez. All about the handball. Why can’t they ask questions about why they dive so often, do they think Mane should have been carded for kicking the ball away. Why do they get so few cards
 
Best midfielder in the world misses a penalty to win the game and it's Peps fault.

Only on here.
That’s myopic. The missed penalty was one fleeting moment in a match that Pep couldn’t control. But the rest of the match is heavily influenced by his decision making pre and during the match. If Pep performed better the penalty miss could have been a total irrelevance to the result. By saying what you are saying, you are implying the entire match is set in stone, managers might as well not be there. That’s absurd.
 
Anyone heard anything about a bust up in training yesterday? Subs bench didn't make sense, three centre halves not much in attack.
 
A result that was probably better received in North London than either end of the M62. Looked like a couple of old heavyweights that have been the distance but now just don’t have enough strength to knock each other out.
 

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