Liverpool (H) - Post-Match Thread

Here are a few thoughts after last night game :

The defence has improved tremendously. Of course it has. We have good, fit defenders. We still don't have a left back. Mendy is a real shame. But guess what, putting four able defenders in a team really shores up your defence.
Not really rocket science this.

Attack is a still a mess. We had a nonexistent midfield. Again no rocket science. We have with us two immobile midfielders who can't tackle or run unless its Burnley or some tinpot team from Greece. Replace Rodri with a fit and young Fernandinho and Gundogan skills with a ball retention king David Silva we have the team that got to 100 points or won 4 trophies in a season.

Why don't we have a left back or a good replacement of Ferna or Merlin is everybody's guess but I am not paid millions to do this so probably the competent people at the club would have the answer. But the problems are quite evident and the same from last 15 months whether we play Sheffield or Chelsea. As a fan i would only understand this match.

We at City don't get to say that very often but our very able defenders saved our asses last night.
 
Blame the premier league for that shit show of a game yesterday.
 
defenders saved our asses last night?
I watch another game that penalty and Gabriel miss save Liverpool asses
My only complaint is not try to win after they lost r b
Pep was scared more then go for attack
But steel more positive after the match
We have the team to win the league
Time will tell
 
Beanhead said:
People blaming Sterling, Jesus and Ferrin out for not scoring.. but exactly how many chances are we creating this season? Answer.. not many at all. It all stems from not pulling the opposition out of position by not moving the ball nearly quickly enough.. we have zero drive from midfield and when Kev is off as he was today we are not finding it from the Gundog and Rodri combo. We needed energy and drive during that last 30 mins.. both Bernardo and Foden should have been on and one of the pivots should have been sacrificed.

Movement and speed of play create space and chances.. we are letting our attacking players down with our current set up and we aren’t even changing it when the opportunity presents itself.

Spanish Dave picking up pockets is a noticeable absence to our play.. but it is what it is as he has gone so we need to find a way to and we are not doing it.
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Most people on here got there wish and that was that foden was ready to fill the boots of our greatest ever player. Foden will be good but not on silvas level .
 
Fordyboy46 said:
Anyone who thinks we did enough to win that game needs to take off those blue tinted glasses. That was the fairest draw you'll ever see
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On the balance of play the result was pretty fair but we had the better chances to win the game and really should have taken at least 2 of them.
 
It still feels like we have lost something in attack. Everything is high paced lung busting counter attack style football. We need to play with more control. The goal came from a 19 pass move and was more like what this City side can do.

Nice build up and then a change of pace when De Bruyne fired it in to Gabby and he tucked it away brilliantly.

De Bruyne seems to be playing every game like we are 1-0 down with 5 minutes left. But when we do get a lead in a game the pace then drops. I do wonder if Pep is telling the team to go all out for the lead to then conserve energy. He seems really concerned by fitness this season and there must be science behind it.
 
BLUEMATT23 said:
Blame the premier league for that shit show of a game yesterday.
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Blame the world of football in general, greed and money.

International games should be scraped during this pandemic, and maybe even european competitions.

Far too many games, the players are shattered and not surprisingly bored. Playing in empty stadiums must be dire.
 
Jesus H Gabz said:
The days of “not enough in that” are gone, contact means penalty, we’re playing catch up as the red media have allowed messers Salah Mane & Fernandez to change English football forever....it has amazed me how many times I’ve seen the refs running & pointing to the penalty spot at the Etihad this season like a 5yr old who’s spotted a frog, we then have to sit back and accept there was contact so it’s a penalty, diving, making the most of it, cheating is now seen as being clever and receives high praise from Spitty Keane & the rest, Christ on a bicycle!...they’d of been in the referees face, not to mention dishing out retribution of their own
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One of the matches on MOTD on the previous Saturday had a similar contact at thigh height and collective 'wisdom' of the commentator/pundits was 'not enough in it for me' . As usual it baffled me then and comparing to Walker's made me scratch my head even more. Using the hip a few inches higher seems to be ok and 'using upper body strength' can mean anything depending on who does it to whom.
In short l dont have a scooby do about tackles and handball despite watching football for over 60 years including refereeing for a time. All the experience gained in that time has just evaporated as l have some sort of football Alzheimer's.
But l was cheered up by your describing a ref giving a pen to a 5 year old pointing at a frog he had found.
 
right, first things first, Mane is a fantastically effective attacker and is a goal threat every time he moves forward. There, said it.

City have got some real stick on this thread but we weren't that bad. Ok, we're not the attacking force of two seasons ago and Sterling is really beginning to get on my tits, what is this new 'just dont even kick it' thing he's got going on? but we look loads better at the back, and we can hope this is what we are building on.

if we're in touch (about 6 points or so off) in another 10 games time, my confidence will begin to grow.
 
supercity88 said:
It still feels like we have lost something in attack. Everything is high paced lung busting counter attack style football. We need to play with more control. The goal came from a 19 pass move and was more like what this City side can do.

Nice build up and then a change of pace when De Bruyne fired it in to Gabby and he tucked it away brilliantly.

De Bruyne seems to be playing every game like we are 1-0 down with 5 minutes left. But when we do get a lead in a game the pace then drops. I do wonder if Pep is telling the team to go all out for the lead to then conserve energy. He seems really concerned by fitness this season and there must be science behind it.
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We lost Leroy Sane in attack. Big game player and one who actually was not afraid to go at defenders
 
Well my pre-match prediction that Kev would have a field day wasn't very accurate. Although when i remember which poster was telling me Cancelo couldn't play at left back....
 
Mancity1980 said:
It feels like a missed opportunity but a defeat? Not for me. Title races are won or lost on the contender’s two league matches against each other, so far no one has such an advantage.
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Silly Sally describes it as 'Liverpool being held' although she seems very happy about the result.
 
Beanhead said:
You clearly have not grasped how much Pep and Klopps brand of football differs they are literally polls apart in terms of style. They prey on high press forcing mistakes. They haven’t changed at all aside from they are now leaking goals. We are now surer at the back but are moving the ball around far less quickly than we used to. This equates to far less goals conceded but far less opportunities for the front men.


Neither is right or wrong.. one is quick transition, one is position based probing.. both we need the right players to perform thi and in the right position.

we are not using the right personal in the right positions to achieve our style.
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Of course I grasp that our style is different but its clear as day that our wide forwards aren't as good as theirs. Our style relies heavily on our wide men getting the ball and creating and scoring goals. Clearly a more creative midfield would assist with this process but our wide men see enough of the ball even now, that if they were really top level e.g. Mane and Salah they would get the job done.

I criticise our midfield as much as anyone on here. I am dumfounded how we have gone from possibly they best midfield 3 in the world just a few years ago to Rodri and Gundogan but I don't think its fair to pile the blame on them for the clear Sterling and Mahrez limitations.
 
vmsuhail said:
Bernardo is getting the Sane treatment. Soon, one of the Spanish clubs will be in his ears.
For the first time I'm leaning more towards Pep out than Pep in.
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Sane might end up being the biggest loss this club has had. He is an incredible player and if he wants it enough, he can be anything he wants to be. I miss him.

At the moment, I am struggling to see what Bernardo brings to the side. He is labelled as an attacking midfielder but he doesn't create or score goals. We all love his energy and enthusiasm but we need more than that from him. Unfortunately, we might end up needing to offload the likes of Bernardo to fund moves for other players.
 
damrider said:
You can't fucking complain about too many fixtures and make 1 sub against liverpool.
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Spot on

They were there for the taking in the last 15 minutes were looking knackered and Pep looked happy for a point.

Those subs would have given us the energy to break them down
 
OrigamiNinja said:
Sane might end up being the biggest loss this club has had. He is an incredible player and if he wants it enough, he can be anything he wants to be. I miss him.

At the moment, I am struggling to see what Bernardo brings to the side. He is labelled as an attacking midfielder but he doesn't create or score goals. We all love his energy and enthusiasm but we need more than that from him. Unfortunately, we might end up needing to offload the likes of Bernardo to fund moves for other players.
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Sane isn't even starting for the German gobshites, he's playing the same role as he did here, coming on and scoring the odd goal.
We won our last title with him being out half the season and when he came back he was on the bench 9 times out 10.
Yes exceptional player but he took the piss out of us with his half arsed attitude and pulling his face.
 
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