Liverpool Thread 2011/12

[RobinHood]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

We are witnessing the ongoing decline of a once great football club play out in front of our eyes.

Have NESV got the stomach for the fight? I suspect the answer to that question at the moment is yes, but not for much longer imo.

Anyone who has been to Anfield in the last few years will attest to the fact that the stadium looks old and tired. There is little or no evidence that Liverpool City Council are showing any meaningful desire to realise the club's ambitions to increase its capacity by whatever means necessary, which is vital if they are to even contemplate competing at the top table ever again.

I suspect that Henry et al are finding the locals a little less charming and quaint now that they have had to endure their capacity to moan like no other fans in football and I see no reason why that relationship is going to do anything other than deteriorate in the months ahead.

Add into the mix the Americans obvious bafflement at the vagaries of football's transfer set up and their hopelessly naive, and quite frankly arrogant assumption that they could teach us Limey simpletons how it's done via the moneyball system and you have a cocktail which I reckon will conspire to make them cut their losses and run within twelve months.

Henry isn't the first businessman to buy a declining brand without realising the size of the task required to turn it round. And like so many clever and single-minded men before him as soon as he realises this, he will cut and run before you can say 'istree. He will come to recognise fairly soon that he has taken on something that he is totally unequipped to deal with and things could get very interesting from that point onwards.

Still, I'm sure it'll still be united's biggest game whatever happens.

Good post.

 

[City Raider]

Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

embarrassing to see them displaying their wares like a cheap hooker to any manager with a slightly decent record

 

[ell]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

Mick McCarthy is out of work at the moment

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

We are witnessing the ongoing decline of a once great football club play out in front of our eyes.

Have NESV got the stomach for the fight? I suspect the answer to that question at the moment is yes, but not for much longer imo.

Anyone who has been to Anfield in the last few years will attest to the fact that the stadium looks old and tired. There is little or no evidence that Liverpool City Council are showing any meaningful desire to realise the club's ambitions to increase its capacity by whatever means necessary, which is vital if they are to even contemplate competing at the top table ever again.

I suspect that Henry et al are finding the locals a little less charming and quaint now that they have had to endure their capacity to moan like no other fans in football and I see no reason why that relationship is going to do anything other than deteriorate in the months ahead.

Add into the mix the Americans obvious bafflement at the vagaries of football's transfer set up and their hopelessly naive, and quite frankly arrogant assumption that they could teach us Limey simpletons how it's done via the moneyball system and you have a cocktail which I reckon will conspire to make them cut their losses and run within twelve months.

Henry isn't the first businessman to buy a declining brand without realising the size of the task required to turn it round. And like so many clever and single-minded men before him as soon as he realises this, he will cut and run before you can say 'istree. He will come to recognise fairly soon that he has taken on something that he is totally unequipped to deal with and things could get very interesting from that point onwards.

Still, I'm sure it'll still be united's biggest game whatever happens.

Exactly this. I think these yanks are starting to realise they may just have dropped a massive clanger and are compounding it in the undignified and ill thought out net casting that has seen them rebuffed by Swansea's manager. In fact, other than Martinez, from the footballing giants of Wigan (no offence, pie eaters) other managers seem to be responding to their 'Requests for interview,' with polite refusals.
It could be another rocky ride for the red dippers; Everton to eclipse them again next year for me.

 

[fuzz barricade]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

The only thing I would say about Roy Hodgson is that he wasn't the current owners choice

But if I was a manager and approached I would be extremely cautious.

 

[Bredbury Blue]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

Gone after his brother now..........Rupert


;o)

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

We are witnessing the ongoing decline of a once great football club play out in front of our eyes.

Have NESV got the stomach for the fight? I suspect the answer to that question at the moment is yes, but not for much longer imo.

Anyone who has been to Anfield in the last few years will attest to the fact that the stadium looks old and tired. There is little or no evidence that Liverpool City Council are showing any meaningful desire to realise the club's ambitions to increase its capacity by whatever means necessary, which is vital if they are to even contemplate competing at the top table ever again.

I suspect that Henry et al are finding the locals a little less charming and quaint now that they have had to endure their capacity to moan like no other fans in football and I see no reason why that relationship is going to do anything other than deteriorate in the months ahead.

Add into the mix the Americans obvious bafflement at the vagaries of football's transfer set up and their hopelessly naive, and quite frankly arrogant assumption that they could teach us Limey simpletons how it's done via the moneyball system and you have a cocktail which I reckon will conspire to make them cut their losses and run within twelve months.

Henry isn't the first businessman to buy a declining brand without realising the size of the task required to turn it round. And like so many clever and single-minded men before him as soon as he realises this, he will cut and run before you can say 'istree. He will come to recognise fairly soon that he has taken on something that he is totally unequipped to deal with and things could get very interesting from that point onwards.

Still, I'm sure it'll still be united's biggest game whatever happens.

What they seem to be absolutely banking on at the moment is for FFPR to be strictly enforced. Currently they are miles away from top four and seemingly only willing to invests amounts that simply will not be enough.

I reckon if the likes of ourselves and Chelsea are still allowed into europe after FFPR is introduced then FSG will do a runner. You're right in that they have been very naive and they have bitten off far more than they can chew.

 

[matt_matt]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

It always amuses me no end to see RAWKites bleat and woman about SKY and the new money in the Prem. Despite their obsession with history, they seem to conveniently overlook the fact that their club was one of the prime movers in the creation of Sky and the Premier League so they could break away from the Football league and make more money for themselves.

If AVB or Martinez get the job, especially Martinez, before a game's been played they'll be torn apart by fans muttering 'Rafa' under their breath. The job's as much as a poisoned chalice as the England job right now.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

Anyone with half a brain (or even a partial desire not to piss their existing club off) will turn down this 'request for interview'. They're apparently on about contacting 12 managers. TWEVE!!!! Who in their right mind would publicly throw their hat into the ring when the chances of actually landing the job are so slim. Talk about rocking the boat and pissing on your own chips.

It's no surprise that the only people semi-interested so far are those without a job (Capello) or those who've already made it clear that they may be moving on this summer (Martinez).

If Liverpool had approached Rodgers and said, "Alright Brendan la, you're our number one choice. We want you and only you," I reckon he'd have jumped at the chance.

Instead they went for: "Hello Mr. Rodgers, this is Liverpool Football Club. Now I know we only finished 8th in the league, 4 points behind Everton, 17 points off the Champions League, 37 points behind the champions, level with Fulham, only 5 points ahead of your own newly promoted team and just 16 points off relegation. And I also know that our previous manager wasted £100m+ on shite, that we can only offer a shoestring budget to improve the playing squad, that our once-grand stadium is on its last legs, and that our fucking knobhead deluded fans treated the last outsider to take the job on disgracefully, but............. we'd really appreciate it if you would publicly alienate your current employers and supporters by accepting our gracious offer for you to prove to us that you are worthy of a one-in-twelve chance to take on the reins of the greatest football club on Earth."

It's arrogance on a level that even the rags would find offensive.

 

[IH8MUFC]

Re: Liverpools dream replacement for "King" Kenny says NO....

We are witnessing the ongoing decline of a once great football club play out in front of our eyes.

Have NESV got the stomach for the fight? I suspect the answer to that question at the moment is yes, but not for much longer imo.

Anyone who has been to Anfield in the last few years will attest to the fact that the stadium looks old and tired. There is little or no evidence that Liverpool City Council are showing any meaningful desire to realise the club's ambitions to increase its capacity by whatever means necessary, which is vital if they are to even contemplate competing at the top table ever again.

I suspect that Henry et al are finding the locals a little less charming and quaint now that they have had to endure their capacity to moan like no other fans in football and I see no reason why that relationship is going to do anything other than deteriorate in the months ahead.

Add into the mix the Americans obvious bafflement at the vagaries of football's transfer set up and their hopelessly naive, and quite frankly arrogant assumption that they could teach us Limey simpletons how it's done via the moneyball system and you have a cocktail which I reckon will conspire to make them cut their losses and run within twelve months.

Henry isn't the first businessman to buy a declining brand without realising the size of the task required to turn it round. And like so many clever and single-minded men before him as soon as he realises this, he will cut and run before you can say 'istree. He will come to recognise fairly soon that he has taken on something that he is totally unequipped to deal with and things could get very interesting from that point onwards.

Still, I'm sure it'll still be united's biggest game whatever happens.

What they seem to be absolutely banking on at the moment is for FFPR to be strictly enforced. Currently they are miles away from top four and seemingly only willing to invests amounts that simply will not be enough.

I reckon if the likes of ourselves and Chelsea are still allowed into europe after FFPR is introduced then FSG will do a runner. You're right in that they have been very naive and they have bitten off far more than they can chew.

Excellent point about FFP. Lets face it it was enforced so the like of the rags, Arsenal and Liverpool could remain at the top. So us or Chelsea will probably pay the price for it.