Liverpool thread 2017/18

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CityInWashingtonState said:
Not sure where this animosity is coming from honesty.

Probably you hate Liverpool - for reasons, as a person born and living in the states - I won't ever appreciate.

That aside - Klopp is a wonderful manager.

Liverpool's current owners won't spend anything like we will - they have a limited budget. The team Klopp took over was a mess.

Has he won the PL title in his tenure? Nope.

Will he before he leaves - probably not.

That said, he's a very solid manager, has improved his side tremendously, and honestly, given his budget, is doing far better than some run-of-the-mill manager (Rodgers, Dalgleish, etc.).
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I don't hate him as i don't know him,he has been built up to be a wonderful manager when the time has come to prove it in the prem he is just an ok manager,he spent more on VVD than we spent on Kev,the team he inherited nearly won the league if it wasn't for slipperty slipping so it was not that bad,we are so far apart on what wonderful is that we should leave it there except to say we expect more from our "top" managers over here
 
Banned Tosspot said:
.... with Salah.
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Knew that was coming, LOL.

Salah has had an amazing season - I thought that Liverpool were done when they sold Coutinho, but if anything, they improved.

There's luck in management - Rodgers and Klopp both have had their share. But honestly, do you think that Rodgers is anywhere near as good as Klopp?
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
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Knew that was coming, LOL.

Salah has had an amazing season - I thought that Liverpool were done when they sold Coutinho, but if anything, they improved.

There's luck in management - Rodgers and Klopp both have had their share. But honestly, do you think that Rodgers is anywhere near as good as Klopp?
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Rodgers was average and Klopp will fail at Liverpool.

Salah has made him look better than he is.
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
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Knew that was coming, LOL.

Salah has had an amazing season - I thought that Liverpool were done when they sold Coutinho, but if anything, they improved.

There's luck in management - Rodgers and Klopp both have had their share. But honestly, do you think that Rodgers is anywhere near as good as Klopp?
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Rodgers was 1 drawn game and a slip away from winning the league!
 
karen7 said:
I don't hate him as i don't know him,he has been built up to be a wonderful manager when the time has come to prove it in the prem he is just an ok manager,he spent more on VVD than we spent on Kev,the team he inherited nearly won the league if it wasn't for slipperty slipping so it was not that bad,we are so far apart on what wonderful is that we should leave it there except to say we expect more from our "top" managers over here
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Fair enough.

I will say however, that over the past few years - probably due to the huge TV revenue clubs are getting in the PL - that the PL has been able to attract the best managers in World football along with much of the best talent. Over the past 2 years our performances in the Cl/Euros have improved as well.

To top it off, a lot of the top sides are playing really attractive football, and if Sarri goes to Chelsea it will only be the scum that are unwatchable.

Great times to be a fan of City or for that matter any top (not scum) side in the PL.
 
blue by birth said:
Challenge for top four but not the title
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I actually think that they'll be closest to pushing us for the title next season at least. But we're built to win the league - far deeper and far more able to withstand injury. Too, we seem to play at a high level consistently whereas Liverpool, for whatever reason, seem to coast against inferior sides dropping points needlessly.

I much more fear Liverpool in cup competitions - they'll be up for these games and in a one-or-two-off - well, anything could happen.
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
Klopp worked magic at BD. His sides will challenge - but so long as we have Pep I think we'll prevail.
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Imagine, the club with (by far and away) the second biggest resources in Germany winning the occasional trophy? Mental.

Can't imagine what that Felix Magath would be like.
 
karen7 said:
I don't hate him as i don't know him,he has been built up to be a wonderful manager when the time has come to prove it in the prem he is just an ok manager,he spent more on VVD than we spent on Kev,the team he inherited nearly won the league if it wasn't for slipperty slipping so it was not that bad,we are so far apart on what wonderful is that we should leave it there except to say we expect more from our "top" managers over here
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No. The team Klopp inherited did not have Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling who were integral to nearly winning the League.

Edit: Sturridge was there but always injured.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Imagine, the club with (by far and away) the second biggest resources in Germany winning the occasional trophy?
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Source?
Each year I've checked, Bayern has 40% or so more to spend than BD, BD is second or third with the 3rd place club either ahead in resources or nearly so.
 
CityInWashingtonState said:
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Each year I've checked, Bayern has 40% or so more to spend than BD, BD is second or third with the 3rd place club either ahead in resources or nearly so.
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2017/18 revenue
1. Bayern Munich €578.8m
2. BVB Dortmund €332.6m
3. Schalke 04 €230.2m
4. Borussia Moenchengladbach €169.3m

That's the top 4 in Germany, couldn't check the rest as they didn't have enough revenue to get into the top 30 in Europe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

Schalke and Hamburg were closer back then, but both clubs have been a clusterfuck for years as any of the German clubs on here will tell you.
 
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