Liverpool thread 2017/18

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cheekybids said:
Having been responsible for the deaths of 39 of their fans you’d think they’d be quiet on the subject.

2 time winners & 7 time runners up but no pedigree.

33 times champions of Italy.
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I simply can not understand why Liverpool Football Club refuses to apologise for the behaviour of their fans at Heysel.
 
reports today that the sharks are circling the selling club to buy Salah at the end of the season - only £200m !
 
bluethrunthru said:
reports today that the sharks are circling the selling club to buy Salah at the end of the season - only £200m !
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I would be more suprised if he stays tbh. He is hot property.

Single handedly dragged his country to the World Cup and and now is likely to smash the PL single season goal record as a winger.

Barca have already made statement signings. With Real having a disappointing season (1pt ahead of Valencia and 15 pts begins Barca). It’s their turn to make a statement.

Bale out for £90m
Salah in for £150-200m

Everyone is happy.
 
Bert Trautmanns Helemet said:
Heysel never happened mate. It has been totally airbrushed from history.
And on the extremely rare occasion it does get mentioned it wasn't their fault.
A more horrible, nasty, snidey, vindictive, collective of fans, club, city & geographical area you could wish to meet.
Thatcher didn't get a lot right but she was right when it comes to this lot.
I fucking despise them with every pore in my body. A horrible, horrible set of people - every last one of them.
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I don't agree with that. This thread's about Liverpool FC and it's fans, and that's a very different thing to the City of Liverpool and the people from there.
 
Apologies up front if already mentioned.

Just watched Salah's goals v Watford for the first time. Their keeper had an absolute mare!!!
 
Blue Hefner said:
I can't see them selling Salah after just one season.
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But when Fenway see the $$$$$ and can offer some to Klippety to put to the Coutinho money that is left they can pacify most by saying there is still plenty of cash to buy and the offer on Salah was too good to turn down.............and they will be able to pocket @ $100m themselves.
 
bluethrunthru said:
But when Fenway see the $$$$$ and can offer some to Klippety to put to the Coutinho money that is left they can pacify most by saying there is still plenty of cash to buy and the offer on Salah was too good to turn down.............and they will be able to pocket @ $100m themselves.
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exactly, then they'll buy someone really good who they can sell on next summer, and then spend £40m on someone like Alex Iwobi.
 
Petetheblu said:
Hahaha.....so it's not selling if sold to someone bigger??? FFS get real.
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Pete, anyone can lose a player to Barcelona/Real Madrid. Doesn't matter how big you are, those two can prize anyone away from anybody.
Dembele, Ronaldo, Bale,

Now I wouldn't class Dortmund, United or Spurs selling clubs, yet they've lost players (very good players) to those clubs. Players they would of liked to keep. So did we.

So no, I don't class that as a selling club mentality. What I do class as a selling club is when clubs sell players to clubs who are their direct rivals, because in that scenario you should be able to offer similar benefits as said rival: Salary, chance of silverware, exposure all that stuff. There shouldn't be a reason why a player would want to leave club X for club Y when they're competing for the same stuff.

But if that situation does happen too often, then yeah I'd consider that a selling club.

Now that's just my interpretation of it though. I don't know if that's correct.
 
LFC-Fans said:
Pete, anyone can lose a player to Barcelona/Real Madrid. Doesn't matter how big you are, those two can prize anyone away from anybody.
Dembele, Ronaldo, Bale,

Now I wouldn't class Dortmund, United or Spurs selling clubs, yet they've lost players (very good players) to those clubs. Players they would of liked to keep. So did we.

So no, I don't class that as a selling club mentality. What I do class as a selling club is when clubs sell players to clubs who are their direct rivals, because in that scenario you should be able to offer similar benefits as said rival: Salary, chance of silverware, exposure all that stuff. There shouldn't be a reason why a player would want to leave club X for club Y when they're competing for the same stuff.

But if that situation does happen too often, then yeah I'd consider that a selling club.

Now that's just my interpretation of it though. I don't know if that's correct.
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well what was Sterling's sale to us then, or Torres to Chelsea?...
 
BJL_City said:
well what was Sterling's sale to us then, or Torres to Chelsea?...
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Torres to Chelsea I mentioned previously as being the last time we made such as sale.
The Sterling one is difficult because you'll get different answers depending on who you ask. I personally was sad to see him go, but others will tell you it was a good deal.
 
LFC-Fans said:
Torres to Chelsea I mentioned previously as being the last time we made such as sale.
The Sterling one is difficult because you'll get different answers depending on who you ask. I personally was sad to see him go, but others will tell you it was a good deal.
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it's still selling to what you consider would be a rival, and whether or not you think he was a top player, he was valued as such and has proven since that he is, and he was a first-team player for you at the time. So that was a sale to a rival making you a selling club. You sell above you, you sell to your rivals when the money suits, christ if Gerrard hadn't bottled it he'd have gone too. Your only protection compared to say Arsenal is that because of the retrospectively added rivalry with the rags because of the "hatred" and rivalry between the two, you've been protected from sales to the one dominant rival in that era.
 
LFC-Fans said:
Pete, anyone can lose a player to Barcelona/Real Madrid. Doesn't matter how big you are, those two can prize anyone away from anybody.
Dembele, Ronaldo, Bale,

Now I wouldn't class Dortmund, United or Spurs selling clubs, yet they've lost players (very good players) to those clubs. Players they would of liked to keep. So did we.

So no, I don't class that as a selling club mentality. What I do class as a selling club is when clubs sell players to clubs who are their direct rivals, because in that scenario you should be able to offer similar benefits as said rival: Salary, chance of silverware, exposure all that stuff. There shouldn't be a reason why a player would want to leave club X for club Y when they're competing for the same stuff.

But if that situation does happen too often, then yeah I'd consider that a selling club.

Now that's just my interpretation of it though. I don't know if that's correct.
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I would class Dortmund and Spurs as selling clubs - the list of promising/good player they have sold between them to clubs they are trying to catch is almost endless. Pretty similar to the likes of Liverpool, Southampton etc.
 
BJL_City said:
it's still selling to what you consider would be a rival, and whether or not you think he was a top player, he was valued as such and has proven since that he is, and he was a first-team player for you at the time. So that was a sale to a rival making you a selling club. You sell above you, you sell to your rivals when the money suits, christ if Gerrard hadn't bottled it he'd have gone too. Your only protection compared to say Arsenal is that because of the retrospectively added rivalry with the rags because of the "hatred" and rivalry between the two, you've been protected from sales to the one dominant rival in that era.
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Like I said. I was upset when Sterling left, he was a first-team player and actually, Id take him over Mané this season. I think hed fit really well back into our team too. But it is how it is I guess
 
mac said:
So you are not a selling club but a club who' best players are sold to other top clubs. Delusional isn't the word.
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You can look at it two ways. Either we arent a selling club, for the reason I've just mentioned. OR we are a selling club, but so are United, Dortmund, Spurs, Liverpool/anyone whos lost a great player to Barc/real.

If you believe the latter I guess you could put Atletico in that bracket too depending on what happens with Griezmann in the summer
 
LFC-Fans said:
Like I said. I was upset when Sterling left, he was a first-team player and actually, Id take him over Mané this season. I think hed fit really well back into our team too. But it is how it is I guess
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He would, but he's too good to play for you. Similar to a Southampton fan who thinks Lallana would 'fit' into their current team - that exactly what a selling club is. They sell players that become better than the team rather than improve around said player
 
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