Liverpool thread 2018/19

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indeed but he seems to have mod backing for some reason...

I'm fine & glad you got a Fulham ticket.....don't think the board could have coped with another 4 days of mental vagrancy. ;)

Haha Cheers pal. That’s what can I use the word persistence!!or is it being a nuisance gets you.once again thank you Mr Web. Done every London club this season so far trying to keep my 100% record up? Just another few to go
 
best laugh I`ve had for while, I love rawk…

It's a really strange argument in my opinion and it really annoys me when they talk about the "already established big clubs" as if there's nothing anyone else can do about them. They speak as if we were established and then straight away started winning trophies, when that couldn't be further from the truth.

Before Shankly, we were a division 2 team who were struggling to gain promotion and he transformed the club in to the club they are today. The reason we were so successful in the 70s and 80s was because of what he did to grow the club from a mediocre lower league club in to a European powerhouse. We weren't established as a massive club who won title after title- we earnt our success through the genius and hard work of Shankly when he first came to the club. The same goes for United under Busby as well. Neither club would have won what they won if it weren't for the commitment of two of the greatest managers in the game and their players. The same can be said about clubs like Arsenal etc.

As has been mentioned, there have been teams such as Nottingham forest who've achieved success and upset the bigger clubs and they did that properly without throwing tonnes of cash in to the team. No one was complaining then because they played by the rules and they were applauded from working their way up from obscurity. However, it's easy to forget that the likes of Liverpool and united also came from obscurity and that's why the men who made those clubs what they've become have been rightly applauded.

All of this is in stark contrast to how man city have gotten their success. Rather than build a great team fairly due to good management, they were bought out by billionaires from a country with a questionable human rights record and corruption. If there's one thing I've always looked for in all things in life, its authenticity and there's nothing authentic about that club. Basically, I could never stand feeling like my club's entire success was due to financial doping and cheating of FFP because it wouldn't really feel like so supporting a football club as I'd know that the club with many traditions and history (and yes they do have some) has become some faceless advert for Abu Dhabi. Everything about their club has been bought and it's really sad that that can bring success in football.

It makes me so happy that we achieved our recent success in the right way because if we were bought out like them, all the trophies in the world would mean nothing as I wouldn't be supporting Liverpool- I'd be supporting a repulsive and faceless brand. I genuinely don't think I'd be able to support Liverpool if they became that plastic as I'd feel like I'd lost my team. Our club at the moment have managed to achieve success while maintaining the core elements that make our club so special and that's really important to me. I'd rather see us win nothing than become like them but I'm so glad that doing things the right way has brought us a great team as well.

Some may say that times have changed since the days of Shankly and that clubs rising their way up and become great teams is a thing of the past so the only way for smaller clubs to compete with the big teams is to spend loads of money. While I agree that it has become harder in the premier league era now that the gap is rising between the elite clubs and the rest, I still believe it can be done. Tottenham are a good example of this (I know they've not won anything but they have a strong squad and have become competitive at the top of the table). They've spent very little money but have promoted youth like Harry Kane and bought hidden gems such as Dele Alli on the cheap. Their squad was built on a relatively low budget compared to the rest of the top 6 but they built a really good team.

Overall, when man city fans talk about how difficult it would be to compete with the top teams without spending loads of money, they don't realise that it's supposed to be hard. It wasn't easy for Shankly in his early days at Liverpool, nor for Busby at united. Becoming a big club should take a lot of effort, and that's why there aren't many of them. They've bought their success but they've payed the price for it as every trophy they win is now meaningless and plastic. They could win the quadruple this season and it wouldn't even mean anything. That's what happens when you cheat your way to the top and nothing this team achieves should be applauded as it was won by financial doping. I'm glad we've kept our club.
Fucking Christ almighty. How does he think Shankley built that team who got promoted? They enticed him from Huddersfield (who wouldn’t spend the money Shankley said he wanted) with the lure of money. They allowed him to get rid of 24 players (retaining only two) and buying a complete new squad that still didn’t get promotion until a year later after they signed a few more players including Ian St John, with the second highest transfer fee in Europe as a Second Division Club, to get promotion by finishing second.

They would literally have just been some random second tier club if it weren’t for money.

They then went on to win the league and cup in three years but Shankley won absolutely nothing for the next six years so he smashed their transfer record about eight times to build the team that went on to be so successful.

Newton Heath and later United would have both gone bust if it weren’t for someone pumping a load of money into them to save them and allow them to win trophies. And Arsenal would have just remained a nothing Second Division club if it weren’t for fraudulently buying a place in the top league after finishing fifth in the Second Division.

Fucking learn some history of the sport you daft Scouse/Rag/Goon ****s!
 
So it is on twitter, must be true. I am opening an account right now.
Chester, firstly,
What are your views on that post from RAWK, in relation to Shankly et al building success without any financial backing?

Are you aware that Liverpool had heavy financial assistance back then?

And lastly, log onto RAWK, and reply to that post putting that forgetful twat right.

We will be looking for it.
Go on, just for a laugh
 
Yes. Because having an owner that invests in his football club is so much more disgusting than murdering opposition supporters.
It wasn’t their fault though. It was Chelsea fans, it was the Brussels Police, it was the stadium safety officer, it was Juventus fans, it was those neutral fans in the neutral zone, it was the running track allowing fans to run around, it was the weather, it was the stadium, it was the density of the concrete, it was that wall... it wasn’t their fault!
 
The fact he says their recent success (which is?) And then says about Tottenham and says I know they haven't won anything, well hello neither have your fucking club, tells me the knob is deluded, recent success ha ha how does he measure recent?
1 League Cup in 13 years, MASSIVE!
 
Fucking Christ almighty. How does he think Shankley built that team who got promoted? They enticed him from Huddersfield (who wouldn’t spend the money Shankley said he wanted) with the lure of money. They allowed him to get rid of 24 players (retaining only two) and buying a complete new squad that still didn’t get promotion until a year later after they signed a few more players including Ian St John, with the second highest transfer fee in Europe as a Second Division Club, to get promotion by finishing second.

They would literally have just been some random second tier club if it weren’t for money.

They then went on to win the league and cup in three years but Shankley won absolutely nothing for the next six years so he smashed their transfer record about eight times to build the team that went on to be so successful.

Newton Heath and later United would have both gone bust if it weren’t for someone pumping a load of money into them to save them and allow them to win trophies. And Arsenal would have just remained a nothing Second Division club if it weren’t for fraudulently buying a place in the top league after finishing fifth in the Second Division.

Fucking learn some history of the sport you daft Scouse/Rag/Goon ****s!

Shankly.
 
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