Liverpool thread 2018/19

[DrBlueBob]

This is the tit who refused to shake hands with Arsenal players after the title decider in 1989.
30 years on, it’s good to see his pain still eating away at him.

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
As you say, he must be eaten up inside.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

RAWK post of the day - manages to bring Hillsborough into it:


City's owners have arrogantly tried and to date succeeded in smashing into oblivion the rules introduced to attempt to make the sporting playing field within football at least a weeny bit more level and fair. These being rules to which other clubs bar PSG have broadly adhered - we'll leave the Chelsea of a few years ago, Barca and real madrid out of it so as not to muddy the waters. City's owners have done this across 5 or 6 years having cynically selected Man City as their chosen flagship because City were able to entice them with a ready made brand new stadium paid for by hardworking tax paying soft c*nts like me. The rule flouting has gathered pace since Guardifuckiingola arrived. All told it has been cheating to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds. They have then - a la the Authorities over Hillsborough with the lies and misrepresentations they promulgated concerning the blame and responsibility for that fateful day - wilfully sought to disguise those financial breaches by - amongst other things - inventing hugely inflated sham sponsorships to make it appear that the rules they have shat all over have not been shat all over.

It is irrelevant as to whether what they have done constitutes criminal fraud. What matters - the sole thing that does matter - is that they have cheated the sport in which they participate by ensuring as far as possible that the weekly league competition in which they participate is no longer anything approaching a fair and reasonable one but rather an annual 'fait accompli'.

Had the owners of Barcelona not been so fucking stupid and gifted Liverpool Alison Becker and Virgil van Dyck on the backs of football's most ludicrous transfer fee then the cold sobering reality would have been that for the second successive season Manchester City would have clinched the Premier league title by 20 to 30 points. Moreover, such a putrid state of affairs would have continued indefinitely.

The defrauding that has taken place has been the defrauding of proper sporting competition and of the public that rightly believe in and cherish the same.

One further consideration in this shambles of a situation concerns the collective British sporting media which virtually across the board have either chosen to deliberately turn a blind eye to the cheating instigated by a once great club or else are as fucking dumb as some of the posters within this thread who seem to believe it is in order to do likewise and even congratulate this obscene institution that City have become.

 

[jamesha]

I am getting pretty pissed off with all this scouse grief and whinging. It would be nice to move on to having a sensible debate about how both teams will do next season but no chance of that any time soon. It would have been great if we could have beaten Spuds an Ajax and be facing them in the final - imagine the levels of hate that would generate!

 

[bluebrother55]

If there’s anything in this ffp sham and EUFA sanction us, expect Victimhood FC to demand that our own FA take action.
They’ll be calling for us to be demoted down the divisions.

 

[jamesha]

Also in what way have we cheated? - by spending (most) or our money wisely and employeeing the best coach in the business?

If we had wasted our £££ in the way United did we would not hear a peep out of them. They really are a special breed.

 

[hcblue95]

Apparently nyt sold there shares in 2012 (I don't know if this is true), can anyone confirm?

 

[Neville Kneville]

We all know the high you get from winning the prem, and how that peak of satisfaction makes it so tough to remotivate yourselves for a consecutive year...
I'm wondering if all of the pandering pats on the back and 'fantastic, job well done, might as well have been winners too' moral achievement plaudits are going to have the same impact on Liverpool?
That they rest on their laurels thinking that they are now 'there' - whereas we also know that this celebration can only last for a very short while before the relentless work must begin again at the same or greater level.

I don't see how they can reach that level next season, without signings making them about 25% better.

Sky showed a load of moments through the season where it's been 'close' for both teams good or bad, so of course we got the ball hitting Aguero's arm & Salah's attempt to get Kompany sent off & our goal line moments.

But when you look at Liverpool's, Jesus H Christ, it's ridiculous beyond all reason.

And they only showed a percentage of it, because they were trying to do a kind of tit for tat thing where one 'close' moment balanced the other etc. Most of the dives weren't in there for a start.

If you look at Liverpool away at Palace for example, struggling to get on top, blatant dive, pen. That game was not going in their favour at all, it could have been tricky. Ends up easy, because of a ridiculously soft decision. There were loads of games like that, ended up comfortable, could have been grim, down to cheating or getting let off by the oppo in key moments. Even Cardiff. Wolves could easily have done it on Sunday.

Look at the same ref as at Palace, watching all the moments of contact v Aguero on Sunday & giving nothing, because he can't be 'sure' just as he definitely couldn't with Mo, but gave it anyway. In our game, he acted as a ref, in theirs, a stooge. There were so many moments like that, which went in their favour & so few in ours, then add in the flukey last min goals etc.

Just Everton, Spurs, Newcastle, that's 6 fucking points just on the bounce of the ball in the last minute. Add West Ham with the worst offside of all time (twice). City at Anfield, last min pen missed. Another season, they are minus 8 points plus we are on two more (100).

That's a ten point difference, without even getting started on the dives.

In every season a team will get good & bad fortune, but if you took all City's 'good' fortune together, ignored all of the Liverpool stuff from above & the ten points there, & just compared the rest of the season, they would still be miles ahead in good fortune compared to City's whole season & cup games put together.

When Solskjaer had that run of wins, it was clear to most of us that every ball was running for them & it had to go wrong, they were lucky. Now I'm not comparing Liverpool to them, Liverpool have played a great season, but with their luck, Utd would have won most of their games in the last couple of months & be easy 3rd & maybe in the cup final & everyone would be saying how great Lolly is.

The biggest problem for Liverpool repeating that next season, is being that fucking stuffy again. If Spurs get their luck, they will be our main challenger instead.

If we get it, the league will be over at Christmas.

 

[mat]

I'm just waiting for one of them to launch a petition...

Maybe saving it in case Spurs rob them too.

 

[Metalartin]

We all know the high you get from winning the prem, and how that peak of satisfaction makes it so tough to remotivate yourselves for a consecutive year...
I'm wondering if all of the pandering pats on the back and 'fantastic, job well done, might as well have been winners too' moral achievement plaudits are going to have the same impact on Liverpool?
That they rest on their laurels thinking that they are now 'there' - whereas we also know that this celebration can only last for a very short while before the relentless work must begin again at the same or greater level.

That's a good point, we should join in the wank fest if anything, lull them into a false sense of security, so they start next season with their slippers on.

 

[M18CTID]

Also in what way have we cheated? - by spending (most) or our money wisely and employeeing the best coach in the business?

If we had wasted our £££ in the way United did we would not hear a peep out of them. They really are a special breed.

And if it was United we'd pipped to the league - as we did in 2012 - they'd all be celebrating the fact.