Liverpool thread 2020/21

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tony adcock said:
hopefully you not being over optimistic --

time will tell, as for sure we looked like we had some players (in sept / oct ) who looked fatigued & dare i say it a manager who looked devoid of a spark....

so it can turn, but whether Bingo has the skills to find a way to change to 'plan B' is what we will find out over the next few weeks
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This is a fair point. It wasn't that long ago that many of our fans were asking searching questions of our own team and manager, and even Pep's contract extension drew a muted response in some quarters because they felt he'd taken the team as far as he could. This was exacerbated by the 2-0 defeat at Spurs which came just a few days after he signed that new deal. I and others tried not to get dragged into that but I have to admit that I was getting concerned myself. Fast forward 8-10 weeks and the situation looks completely different so it can change for the better and quickly. What I would say though is that we seemingly went back to basics and learnt how to defend again first and foremost, then used that as a springboard for taking the handbrake off later. It wasn't pretty at first but it was a necessity. The question is - can Liverpool do something similar with their defence even when van Dijk and the other CBs return? For me, the likes of Matip and Gomez are nowhere near good enough to partner him on a regular basis and I'm not sure those other two they've signed are either. IMO they need someone close to the level of Dias for us to team up with van Dijk, and there aren't many of those players around.
 
M18CTID said:
Yep. They only exist because Everton - a club that were winning league titles at Liverpool's home ground before Liverpool even existed - were booted out of Anfield. At least City, United, and Everton weren't founded off of the back of another successful local team. Oh, and just to top things off Liverpool were founded by a Tory!
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That’s not fair.....these are just incidents that happened in the past, and must not be confused with their glorious ‘istreeee.
 
M18CTID said:
This is a fair point. It wasn't that long ago that many of our fans were asking searching questions of our own team and manager, and even Pep's contract extension drew a muted response in some quarters because they felt he'd taken the team as far as he could. This was exacerbated by the 2-0 defeat at Spurs which came just a few days after he signed that new deal. I and others tried not to get dragged into that but I have to admit that I was getting concerned myself. Fast forward 8-10 weeks and the situation looks completely different so it can change for the better and quickly. What I would say though is that we seemingly went back to basics and learnt how to defend again first and foremost, then used that as a springboard for taking the handbrake off later. It wasn't pretty at first but it was a necessity. The question is - can Liverpool do something similar with their defence even when van Dijk and the other CBs return? For me, the likes of Matip and Gomez are nowhere near good enough to partner him on a regular basis and I'm not sure those other two they've signed are either. IMO they need someone close to the level of Dias for us to team up with van Dijk, and there aren't many of those players around.
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Liverpool are a good side and Klopp is a good manager. They will be back
 
Bluemoon115 said:
I've noticed a trend from Klopp in his interviews, and there are many Liverpool fans that post in here, so maybe they can answer.

Klopp keeps talking about "the two goals" Liverpool Football Club conceded.

They conceded four.

Klopp is clearly the greatest genius in footballing history, that cannot be questioned. Obviously.

But maybe he can't count?
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I noticed that too. He also got confused over the two weeks break we had, when it was in fact four weeks.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
And they were a nothing Second Division club until the money came along and bought them 24 new players to get promoted, but failed, and then the year after signed the second most expensive player in Europe (as a 2ndDiv club!) to get that promotion.

Without Moores/Littlewoods none of what happened afterward would have happened! They’d just have stayed languishing in the 2ndDiv.

We were actually a top half Prem club when we were taken over by the Sheikh.
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No 'iiiiiiiiiistory............
 
So much wrong with this from RAWK
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Fitting that they’ll win it in the most sterile way possible, in the most sterile season imaginable.

No-one gives a fuck about them winning, and no-one will remember it even if they wanted to. No-one gave a shit about their treble when people could actually show up, if they do it again in empty stadiums it’ll be met with little more than a shrug and a yawn.’

It’s hard to know where to start.

other than the all encompassing ‘alert: non-ironic, bitter poster, spits fiction rather than fact’
 
JASR said:
So much wrong with this from RAWK
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Fitting that they’ll win it in the most sterile way possible, in the most sterile season imaginable.

No-one gives a fuck about them winning, and no-one will remember it even if they wanted to. No-one gave a shit about their treble when people could actually show up, if they do it again in empty stadiums it’ll be met with little more than a shrug and a yawn.’

It’s hard to know where to start.

other than the all encompassing ‘alert: non-ironic, bitter poster, spits fiction rather than fact’
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I think quite a lot of people give a shit about City winning the treble, actually.

Also:
Pickford upset.jpg
 
JASR said:
So much wrong with this from RAWK
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Fitting that they’ll win it in the most sterile way possible, in the most sterile season imaginable.

No-one gives a fuck about them winning, and no-one will remember it even if they wanted to. No-one gave a shit about their treble when people could actually show up, if they do it again in empty stadiums it’ll be met with little more than a shrug and a yawn.’

It’s hard to know where to start.

other than the all encompassing ‘alert: non-ironic, bitter poster, spits fiction rather than fact’
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And no one bar the dipper loving media gave a shit about the title they lifted in an empty stadium and no one would give shit when they do their bus parade when we've regained the title,
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Liverpool are a good side and Klopp is a good manager. They will be back
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He is. He's a better manager than some on here give him credit for - you don't win back-to-back titles in Germany and the league and CL while in England if you're not a good manager. However, I think his achilles heel is running players into the ground due to his maniacal pressing game. That's what happened at Dortmund where it unravelled pretty quickly from a position of great strength, and is what appears to be happening at Liverpool now.

It is possible he can address it unlike at Dortmund because on the face of it, Liverpool have greater resources in terms of refreshing the squad with new signings but I'm not sure FSG will back him enough in the transfer market. The impression I get is that Klopp is on a bit of a collision course with the owners and Liverpool fans should be asking why the likes of Everton are outspending them despite their (Liverpool's) revenues rising considerably over the past couple of seasons on the back of 2 CL final appearances and a PL win. Of course, they've taken a hit during the pandemic with no fans allowed in, and that hit will be greater than most other clubs but even so, every other club has taken a hit too and in any case Liverpool have other lucrative revenue streams. It wouldn't surprise me if FSG are looking at an exit strategy as they'd make a tidy profit if they sold the club.
 
JASR said:
So much wrong with this from RAWK
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Fitting that they’ll win it in the most sterile way possible, in the most sterile season imaginable.

No-one gives a fuck about them winning, and no-one will remember it even if they wanted to. No-one gave a shit about their treble when people could actually show up, if they do it again in empty stadiums it’ll be met with little more than a shrug and a yawn.’

It’s hard to know where to start.

other than the all encompassing ‘alert: non-ironic, bitter poster, spits fiction rather than fact’
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Hah I saw that too earlier. There's a few of them like that. They don't care yet they go on a full on rant.

They care alright.
 
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