Except that you're the one proclaiming to be the expert. You keep telling everyone they can't judge if they weren't there, yet you're doing exactly that.
In EVERY scenario like this there will be innocent victims within the crowd, but if the police do nothing you have a riot on your hands. If people were "cheated" it's for one reason, and one reason only - because tens of thousands of Liverpool fans turned up in Paris without tickets.
These are the facts.
- 96 were killed at Hillsborough. The primary cause of the disaster was ticketless fans trying to get in.
- 36 were killed and over 600 injured at Heysel, again caused by Liverpool fans rushing en masse, this time causing a wall to collapse.
- Klopp ASKED Liverpool fans to go. His exact words were "So if you don’t get a ticket, I think Paris is big enough to go there without a ticket and have a good time..."
- These are fans that attacked City's team coach with bricks.
- These are fans who rioted in there OWN city centre, setting fire to the Liver Building they supposedly cherish so much and smashing up their own city, that during a Covid lockdown and coming after they WON the title.
The simple fact is these people (without tickets or with fake tickets) have absolutely no excuse for turning up. They did so in the hope that they could sneak in with their dodgy tickets and many probably did, leaving those innocent people with genuine tickets in the melee outside.
If these people have not learnt yet that they are the cause of their own problems then something needs to be done. Police in other countries such as France will react to prevent a riot, or the sort of crush that led to the Hillsborough disaster, who they want us all to remember yet very quickly forget themselves. These are the people who created this scenario just hours before the anniversary of the Heysel disaster.
I don't know what it takes to get through to them that this is what happens when you turn up for a big match without tickets, but looking at it all from the outside (and tribalism aside), you should have more sense.
I don't know if you've ever been to Anfield as a City fan and sat in the away end but it's absolutely terrifying, and even though I'd gone with a mate who supports Liverpool who had got me a ticket, I've no doubt whatsoever that if any of those fans had known I was a City fan I would not have got out in one piece - and this is going back to the years when they were winning everything and hated United, and we weren't a threat. I've been to dozens of away grounds and sat and had drinks with opposing fans after matches, win or lose, but I've never seen or heard the vitriol as deeply as I heard it that day.
These are the fans who still boo and slag off Sterling 7 years after he left the club. Where else do you hear that? It's no coincidence that it's always Liverpool. This is who they are, and you need to take your blinkers off.