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What Standard Chartered do or don't do doesn't really bother me (but that's just me). Is the evasion of US financial instructions necessarily foul play? Perhaps financial institutions that cooperate in sanctioning impoverished nations are 'guilty'?

We all have different moral codes. My moral code is based on what is good for Manchester city, football and when it comes to wider society, humanity in general. Everyone acts in self interest hence Liverpool fans suddenly have discovered a keen interest in human rights despite gaining notoriety across Europe for behaviour that we can all recall.
Good points with many banks and companies trading with Iran whereas USA imposed a trade ban on that country affecting dollar accounts worldwide.

Certainly drug money laundering is a different thing but probably because it is untaxed money rather than moralistic principles.
 
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons, the Porto Pussycats, the Faro Financial Fairplayers

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There's a small part of me (not that part) that still holds out some hope that there will be a breakthrough, a leak, a whistle-blower, or some other event that brings them down and exposes the whole facade for the doping scandal it really is.

It took years to finally bring Armstrong down as so many people were in on it, including his team mates, managers, plus doctors and officials. There was also the Calciopoli scandal in Serie A which probably seemed bulletproof until it all unravelled.

At some stage I think we'll reach a tipping point where they are either found out, or where other clubs are able to combine to put enough pressure on FFP, UEFA and the FA for them to act.

That may sound overly optimistic, but if it continues much longer then the pressure to level the playing field will only intensify, and the motivation for organisations like Der Spiegel to expose more fraud and money laundering will be huge. I have no doubt there are still plenty of people doing plenty more digging to find a breakthrough.

It's amazing they've gotten away with it this long - especially as no-one seemed to question why in 2011, Eithad Airways decided that the best way they could get more global exposure for their brand would be to sponsor the stadium and shirts of the 2nd best club in Manchester, paying more than it cost FSG to buy our entire club a year earlier.

It's like a crime that everyone knows has taken place (and which everyone can see the effects), but either no-one wants to bring the perpetrator to justice, or they have so many expensive lawyers that it's not worth the fight.

In years to come, I sincerely hope there are lectures being given in Law School, citing 'The Peoples Game vs Manchester City', as a landmark legal case that exposed one of the biggest financial frauds in sporting history.
Anyone who does not realise the exposure and enhanced profile that five PL titles has given Etihad is undeniably thick, as is anyone who does not appreciate that the price FSG paid for Liverpool was a function of the insolvency of the club at the time.
 
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons, the Porto Pussycats, the Faro Financial Fairplayers

« Reply #19446 on: Today at 03:42:10 pm »

There's a small part of me (not that part) that still holds out some hope that there will be a breakthrough, a leak, a whistle-blower, or some other event that brings them down and exposes the whole facade for the doping scandal it really is.

It took years to finally bring Armstrong down as so many people were in on it, including his team mates, managers, plus doctors and officials. There was also the Calciopoli scandal in Serie A which probably seemed bulletproof until it all unravelled.

At some stage I think we'll reach a tipping point where they are either found out, or where other clubs are able to combine to put enough pressure on FFP, UEFA and the FA for them to act.

That may sound overly optimistic, but if it continues much longer then the pressure to level the playing field will only intensify, and the motivation for organisations like Der Spiegel to expose more fraud and money laundering will be huge. I have no doubt there are still plenty of people doing plenty more digging to find a breakthrough.

It's amazing they've gotten away with it this long - especially as no-one seemed to question why in 2011, Eithad Airways decided that the best way they could get more global exposure for their brand would be to sponsor the stadium and shirts of the 2nd best club in Manchester, paying more than it cost FSG to buy our entire club a year earlier.

It's like a crime that everyone knows has taken place (and which everyone can see the effects), but either no-one wants to bring the perpetrator to justice, or they have so many expensive lawyers that it's not worth the fight.

In years to come, I sincerely hope there are lectures being given in Law School, citing 'The Peoples Game vs Manchester City', as a landmark legal case that exposed one of the biggest financial frauds in sporting history.
You've got to laugh. They're experts in international financial fraud on a huge scale yet can't understand why throwing things at an opposition coach is wrong.
 
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons, the Porto Pussycats, the Faro Financial Fairplayers

« Reply #19446 on: Today at 03:42:10 pm »

There's a small part of me (not that part) that still holds out some hope that there will be a breakthrough, a leak, a whistle-blower, or some other event that brings them down and exposes the whole facade for the doping scandal it really is.

It took years to finally bring Armstrong down as so many people were in on it, including his team mates, managers, plus doctors and officials. There was also the Calciopoli scandal in Serie A which probably seemed bulletproof until it all unravelled.

At some stage I think we'll reach a tipping point where they are either found out, or where other clubs are able to combine to put enough pressure on FFP, UEFA and the FA for them to act.

That may sound overly optimistic, but if it continues much longer then the pressure to level the playing field will only intensify, and the motivation for organisations like Der Spiegel to expose more fraud and money laundering will be huge. I have no doubt there are still plenty of people doing plenty more digging to find a breakthrough.

It's amazing they've gotten away with it this long - especially as no-one seemed to question why in 2011, Eithad Airways decided that the best way they could get more global exposure for their brand would be to sponsor the stadium and shirts of the 2nd best club in Manchester, paying more than it cost FSG to buy our entire club a year earlier.

It's like a crime that everyone knows has taken place (and which everyone can see the effects), but either no-one wants to bring the perpetrator to justice, or they have so many expensive lawyers that it's not worth the fight.

In years to come, I sincerely hope there are lectures being given in Law School, citing 'The Peoples Game vs Manchester City', as a landmark legal case that exposed one of the biggest financial frauds in sporting history.
Level the playing field? What you really mean is you are absolutely desperate for some intervention to help Liverpool to win more stuff ... because it's your mythical right!
You couldn't give a shit about any other team ... just like you weren't even slightly interested in 'levelling the playing field' in the 70s and 80s.
 
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This gem in the post match thread on rawk...

I'm not brave.
But I ran up the tube lines in the 80s to stop us getting attacked.
I got kicked, shouted at, wide throwing fists, bottles, spit, abuse.
But I was protecting something, i don't know what i was protecting, littler people, I don't know who.
We didn't give a fuck if we won or lost.
We would not be beaten
and we ran, shouted, kicked, hit, and stunk, and hugged
all through London's innards

If you wouldn't have been with us
Cool, fuck us off and your criticisms of our losses are welcome.

And if you.are with us
I will jump down with.you
And we outrun the train.
And I will have your arm.
There is no such word as 'littler'...that's all I have to say.
 
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