Liverpool Thread | 2025/26

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M18CTID said:
Dalglish won the League Cup before they sacked him

Rodgers came within a whisker of winning the league and may well have done if Slippy hadn't fucked up against Chelsea

Klopp was up against the greatest manager and greatest team this country has ever seen for much of his tenure. Or are you suggesting that City weren't all that?

All I'm saying is that Postecoglou falls well short of any of those appointments based on his current stock
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A single league cup is irrelevant when judging success of a manager. If anything it highlights the failure if that’s all there is to hang his hat on.

Rodgers - history is littered with near misses. Simple truth is he had the team to win the league and failed to get them over the line.

Klopp - he was up against the greatest manager of all time. So what? This is elite sport - going up against the best in the league is no excuse when the target is being the best in the league. ie, if Klopp won four in row, would we be saying Pep was still a success because it’s just unfortunate he went up against Klopp?

Postecoglou may well fall short - my point is previous managers have done as well, so it would be going with trend.
 
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mcfcphil said:
A single league cup is irrelevant when judging success of a manager. If anything it highlights the failure of that’s all there is to hang his hat on.

Rodger’s - history is littered with near misses. Simple truth is he had the team to win the league and failed to get them over the line.

Klopp - he was up against the greatest manager of all time. So what? This is elite sport - going up against the best in the league is no excuse when the target is being the best in the league. ie, if Klopp won four in row, would we be saying Pep was still a success because it’s just unfortunate he went up against Klopp?

Postecoglou may well fall short - my point is previous managers have done as well, so it would be going with trend.
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If you think Postecoglou is up the standard or their other recent appointments then you're fucking deluded mate. I hate Liverpool as much as the next man but your post smacks of bitterness.
 
M18CTID said:
If you think Postecoglou is up the standard or their other recent appointments thenuuu you're fucking deluded mate. I hate Liverpool as much as the next man but your post smacks of bitterness.
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I said Postecoglou may well fall short - but that it would be on trend with previous appointments.

I don’t see anything controversial in that. When you look past the bluff at the actual trophies won, those managers have by and large been failures.

If you told me the next City manager after Pep would be at the club for a decade and win one league title and one champions league, I would class that as a significant underachievement.
 
Craig said:
Of course the manager matters and the style of play is down to the manager. Apart from Clichy the year he won it with Mancini i don’t think we’ve ever had a proper decent left back(ironically until now). Delph was actually superb that year.

If you’ve got KDB, David Silva, prime Dinho, Sergio Aguero, 2 top wingers and Vinnie when fit you’ve got some chance with a very special team. The players are the key. Now we have very few genuinely great players. Great players have left and when you stop signing great players you inevitably stop being a great team. Doesn’t matter who the manager is if you don’t have the players you aren’t winning the big pots.
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If the players are *the* key, why is Pep the only manager in English football to win 4 titles in a row? Didn't United, Arsenal, Chelsea have great players as well, especially Ferguson's United and Mourinho's Chelsea 04-06?

Of course, players are very important, but it takes an exceptional manager to win multiple PL titles in a row.
 
alexmcity said:
If the players are *the* key, why is Pep the only manager in English football to win 4 titles in a row? Didn't United, Arsenal, Chelsea have great players as well, especially Ferguson's United and Mourinho's Chelsea 04-06?

Of course, players are very important, but it takes an exceptional manager to win multiple PL titles in a row.
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Schlotty not as fuckin cocky now eh! Should we ask him if its HIS last season against cheating City as well as the diving Egyptian!
At worst, all weve done is invest in the business against specifically rigged rules, nothing anywhere near as bad as these wankers.
 
Many of us - me included - have criticised our recruitment over the last few years, but imagine going from winning the league; spending £450m gross on 5 players they craved; breaking the transfer record not once, but twice; and then having these results? We'd all be pulling our hair out - at least Slot's lucky in that respect.

And the Jota business is fuck all to do with it - they won their first 5 games and they were being considered as world beaters, with pundits saying that they were going to win the league with a record points haul.

I'll whisper this next bit - should the club as a whole stop the Jota worship? Should someone there show maturity and leadership on the point as, so long as some of them keep him in focus so strongly, he'll become the excuse they can rely upon - notwithstanding the fact that THEY considered themselves world-beaters in the first 4-6 weeks of the season. .

But, they'll continue their 20th minute pathetic vigil forever and a day because, "This is Liverpool F.C. we're talking about!" They love their "Look at me, being sad and loyal" little show every game, when no-one can be as sad as them.

They love a fuss, and it's never their fault - just another great European night under the lights at Anfield for the rest of us - and, did you see all those empty seats before the end?
 
the blue panther said:
Many of us - me included - have criticised our recruitment over the last few years, but imagine going from winning the league; spending £450m gross on 5 players they craved; breaking the transfer record not once, but twice; and then having these results? We'd all be pulling our hair out - at least Slot's lucky in that respect.

And the Jota business is fuck all to do with it - they won their first 5 games and they were being considered as world beaters, with pundits saying that they were going to win the league with a record points haul.

I'll whisper this next bit - should the club as a whole stop the Jota worship? Should someone there show maturity and leadership on the point as, so long as some of them keep him in focus so strongly, he'll become the excuse they can rely upon - notwithstanding the fact that THEY considered themselves world-beaters in the first 4-6 weeks of the season. .

But, they'll continue their 20th minute pathetic vigil forever and a day because, "This is Liverpool F.C. we're talking about!" They love their "Look at me, being sad and loyal" little show every game, when no-one can be as sad as them.

They love a fuss, and it's never their fault - just another great European night under the lights at Anfield for the rest of us - and, did you see all those empty seats before the end?
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Their mourning means more. Sad performative wankers.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
If he's earning 32K a month, then fuck covered bridges, I'm doing a Goldbridge and switching alliances and hosting a watch along as a full on Liverpool fan.
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I wouldn't watch your channel then and that would be a great loss even the £32K a month wouldn't comfort you ;-)
 
alexmcity said:
If the players are *the* key, why is Pep the only manager in English football to win 4 titles in a row? Didn't United, Arsenal, Chelsea have great players as well, especially Ferguson's United and Mourinho's Chelsea 04-06?

Of course, players are very important, but it takes an exceptional manager to win multiple PL titles in a row.
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I didn’t say it doesn’t take an exceptional manager as Ferguson proved time and again but there wasn’t many times he didn’t have the best squad or starting 11 or spend the most money. The only time he blatantly didn’t have the better starting 11 was the year the Mancini fell out with half the team and the players downed tools.utd did buy an absolutely amazing forward in his prime that year though and he got them shitloads of points.So again the players matter so much!

Pep couldn’t win the league the first year when he didn’t have the players for his system. Or last year when he didn’t have good enough players,or again(we’ll see) this year when Arsenal are a much stronger squad and team.Not a dig at Pep just emphasising you need the players no matter who you’re.Look at Liverpool now.They had 3 genuine world class players in Alison,VVD and Salah.Those players have got old like our legends did and they’ve fallen off a cliff.
 
the blue panther said:
Many of us - me included - have criticised our recruitment over the last few years, but imagine going from winning the league; spending £450m gross on 5 players they craved; breaking the transfer record not once, but twice; and then having these results? We'd all be pulling our hair out - at least Slot's lucky in that respect.

And the Jota business is fuck all to do with it - they won their first 5 games and they were being considered as world beaters, with pundits saying that they were going to win the league with a record points haul.

I'll whisper this next bit - should the club as a whole stop the Jota worship? Should someone there show maturity and leadership on the point as, so long as some of them keep him in focus so strongly, he'll become the excuse they can rely upon - notwithstanding the fact that THEY considered themselves world-beaters in the first 4-6 weeks of the season. .

But, they'll continue their 20th minute pathetic vigil forever and a day because, "This is Liverpool F.C. we're talking about!" They love their "Look at me, being sad and loyal" little show every game, when no-one can be as sad as them.

They love a fuss, and it's never their fault - just another great European night under the lights at Anfield for the rest of us - and, did you see all those empty seats before the end?
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It means more.
 
Craig said:
I didn’t say it doesn’t take an exceptional manager as Ferguson proved time and again but there wasn’t many times he didn’t have the best squad or starting 11 or spend the most money. The only time he blatantly didn’t have the better starting 11 was the year the Mancini fell out with half the team and the players downed tools.utd did buy an absolutely amazing forward in his prime that year though and he got them shitloads of points.So again the players matter so much!

Pep couldn’t win the league the first year when he didn’t have the players for his system. Or last year when he didn’t have good enough players,or again(we’ll see) this year when Arsenal are a much stronger squad and team.Not a dig at Pep just emphasising you need the players no matter who you’re.Look at Liverpool now.They had 3 genuine world class players in Alison,VVD and Salah.Those players have got old like our legends did and they’ve fallen off a cliff.
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Our main problem is Rodri isn't available. That was a big problem last season, and it still is a big problem. If he can come back strong, we have a chance to compete this season.

It's hard to tell whether our players are good enough to win the title. It seems that the squad lacks quality because of several factors: 1) many new players who need time to get Pep and the league, 2) young players who are not in their prime (half the team), and 3) missing Rodri whose presence would have made the transition to a new team easier and more comfortable.

IMO, the team has a great potential. I sort of have expected those bumps on the road. They are normal.
 
alexmcity said:
Our main problem is Rodri isn't available. That was a big problem last season, and it still is a big problem. If he can come back strong, we have a chance to compete this season.

It's hard to tell whether our players are good enough to win the title. It seems that the squad lacks quality because of several factors: 1) many new players who need time to get Pep and the league, 2) young players who are not in their prime (half the team), and 3) missing Rodri whose presence would have made the transition to a new team easier and more comfortable.

IMO, the team has a great potential. I sort of have expected those bumps on the road. They are normal.
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Kind of agree, i’m quite enjoying some of our football in recent weeks (forgetting that from the B team the other night). I think the team has a lot of potential with the likes of Doku, Cherki and Foden behind Haaland. I do think we’re another year off though and i’m fine with that. Apart from my one gripe being that if the recruitment had been better over the last couple of years we might be a lot closer already.
 
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