Liverpool Thread | 2025/26

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coolcity said:
You know they're in the crap when they start making excuses this early in the season.

I don't understand why everybody is so surprised. I said at the start of the season that I didn't understand why they were favourites, because that was Klopp's team, Slot is unproven, their winning points total wouldn't have got them past City in any of the last 6 seasons when we won it, and I thought Wirtz was overrated and that most German players - with obvious exceptions - generally don't do well in the Prem.

Then after their flurry of late winners when some clown on here said we were "light years behind them and it would take us at least 2 years to catch up", I said again that I didn't think they were that good and their bubble would burst sooner rather than later. Not trying to say I told you so but it just seems obvious to me. People get too carried away over a runs of wins and points. They're not a 90-point team.
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You told us so?
 
mind your car Mr? said:
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Maybe I missed it but I don't remember any police officers on the terraces pushing fans downwards towards the fences. The police actually didn't kill anyone. The Liverpool fans crushed their own fans to death. The police contributed by their poor management of the situation and covered that up and should be held responsible for that. What's not been highlighted is the FA made clubs erect fences to stop pitch invasions. That prevented fans getting on the pitch when they were being pushed against the fence. They are as guilty as anyone but nothing said. This action alone led to an increase in deaths and injuries. Also who gave the ground a safety certificate when a risk assessment should have identified that it was a high risk like blocking a means of escape. Bradford fire says hello.
I really feel for the bereaved families but just to keep blaming the police hides the responsibility of others.
 
Dannyblue52 said:
Maybe I missed it but I don't remember any police officers on the terraces pushing fans downwards towards the fences. The police actually didn't kill anyone. The Liverpool fans crushed their own fans to death. The police contributed by their poor management of the situation and covered that up and should be held responsible for that. What's not been highlighted is the FA made clubs erect fences to stop pitch invasions. That prevented fans getting on the pitch when they were being pushed against the fence. They are as guilty as anyone but nothing said. This action alone led to an increase in deaths and injuries. Also who gave the ground a safety certificate when a risk assessment should have identified that it was a high risk like blocking a means of escape. Bradford fire says hello.
I really feel for the bereaved families but just to keep blaming the police hides the responsibility of others.
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This isn't really fair.

The Taylor report led to the removal of the pitchside fences, there was widespread condemnation of the state of the ground at the time, so to say "nothing said" ignores the fact that a lot was said about matters like that 30 years ago.

What wasn't said at the time was anything about the role the police played.
 
Dannyblue52 said:
Maybe I missed it but I don't remember any police officers on the terraces pushing fans downwards towards the fences. The police actually didn't kill anyone. The Liverpool fans crushed their own fans to death. The police contributed by their poor management of the situation and covered that up and should be held responsible for that. What's not been highlighted is the FA made clubs erect fences to stop pitch invasions. That prevented fans getting on the pitch when they were being pushed against the fence. They are as guilty as anyone but nothing said. This action alone led to an increase in deaths and injuries. Also who gave the ground a safety certificate when a risk assessment should have identified that it was a high risk like blocking a means of escape. Bradford fire says hello.
I really feel for the bereaved families but just to keep blaming the police hides the responsibility of others.
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The Liverpool fans that were killed and injured that day were amongst other thing victims of their own clubs reputation at the time. Yes, other fans were just as bad, and that contributed, but the initial behaviour of the police was based on expectations of how their fans would behave. What happened afterwards was inexcusable.
 
For me its not the coppers at the coal face, its a difficult enough job. Its about how the press and police (and I suspect the FA) colluded, at a high level, to paint a different picture. That's where the most damage was done after the initial tragedy.

Fed up to the back teeth of how liverpool fc exploit it but I would have liked to see some appropriate justice.
 
Dannyblue52 said:
Maybe I missed it but I don't remember any police officers on the terraces pushing fans downwards towards the fences. The police actually didn't kill anyone. The Liverpool fans crushed their own fans to death. The police contributed by their poor management of the situation and covered that up and should be held responsible for that. What's not been highlighted is the FA made clubs erect fences to stop pitch invasions. That prevented fans getting on the pitch when they were being pushed against the fence. They are as guilty as anyone but nothing said. This action alone led to an increase in deaths and injuries. Also who gave the ground a safety certificate when a risk assessment should have identified that it was a high risk like blocking a means of escape. Bradford fire says hello.
I really feel for the bereaved families but just to keep blaming the police hides the responsibility of others.
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Also the pens inside the stand exacerbated the problem, as those coming in late didn’t spread out, but instead headed for the pens straight in front of them.
 
To have been a friend or family of one of the deceased was devastating . But to have those memories brought up time and time again over the past 36 years must be equally distressing.
 
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