Loaning players in the top leagues should it be banned?

[jimharri]

But look at the benefits, take Joe Hart for example as the loan proved to be the making of him.

Correct. If it wasn't for the Adebayor situation and how he's helping a title rival, I doubt if this thread would have appeared.

No not at all. We are talking about teams who have money and rich people within there set up why should they loan a player when they have the money to buy that player? Both Madrid and Spurs had the money to pay for Ade but decided to take him on loan. Top clubs from all the major leagues shouldnt be able to bring in loan signings. IF they want a player buy him if they cant afford him or his wages then they shouldnt be able to take them on loan.

So; you're saying that if the current situation with Ade wasn't happening, you'd still be questioning the whole loan scenario. Right.

 

[leighton]

Correct. If it wasn't for the Adebayor situation and how he's helping a title rival, I doubt if this thread would have appeared.

No not at all. We are talking about teams who have money and rich people within there set up why should they loan a player when they have the money to buy that player? Both Madrid and Spurs had the money to pay for Ade but decided to take him on loan. Top clubs from all the major leagues shouldnt be able to bring in loan signings. IF they want a player buy him if they cant afford him or his wages then they shouldnt be able to take them on loan.

So; you're saying that if the current situation with Ade wasn't happening, you'd still be questioning the whole loan scenario. Right.

Of course I would. Ade has done ok. Sadly we are paying part of his wages so another club gets the benefit of that player at a fraction of the cost. I just think that loaning for the top leagues should be done away with. IF the players want to play football they will move and will cut there wage demands to play football. At the moment its like the loan move is the easy way out for them to move and play regular football while still keeping the wages with both teams paying a part of the wages which is just wrong on so many points in my view.

 

[THFC6061]

Adebayor won't help Spurs win the title and we do not miss him at all. He isn't good or consistent enough.

You're probably right.

But it would be absolutely hilarious if you're wrong.

 

[jimharri]

No not at all. We are talking about teams who have money and rich people within there set up why should they loan a player when they have the money to buy that player? Both Madrid and Spurs had the money to pay for Ade but decided to take him on loan. Top clubs from all the major leagues shouldnt be able to bring in loan signings. IF they want a player buy him if they cant afford him or his wages then they shouldnt be able to take them on loan.

So; you're saying that if the current situation with Ade wasn't happening, you'd still be questioning the whole loan scenario. Right.

Of course I would. Ade has done ok. Sadly we are paying part of his wages so another club gets the benefit of that player at a fraction of the cost. I just think that loaning for the top leagues should be done away with. IF the players want to play football they will move and will cut there wage demands to play football. At the moment its like the loan move is the easy way out for them to move and play regular football while still keeping the wages with both teams paying a part of the wages which is just wrong on so many points in my view.

Extremely unlikely. 99% of professional are greedy individuals.

 

[kiam06]

If the two clubs agree to the deal what is the problem?

 

[leighton]

If the two clubs agree to the deal what is the problem?

Its a easy way out of any deal. They take them on loan for the season in most cases they return to there parent club. The clubs never take up the option to buy a player. They originally wanted the player but the player after the season on loan is told thanks but no thanks.

Just my view I never argeed with players being loaned to teams in the same division and any top teams in the league its a shame to see them doing so. I dont mind loaning a players out up to a certain age for experience but to lower league sides more so.

Put it this way if we didnt have the loan system in football the likes of Ade , Rocky and maybe Tevez will be out on loan by the end of this transfer window. Its crazy that 3 strikers like them go out on loan when the clubs that they have gone to or are going to have the funds to buy them.

 

[JimB]

No not at all. We are talking about teams who have money and rich people within there set up why should they loan a player when they have the money to buy that player? Both Madrid and Spurs had the money to pay for Ade but decided to take him on loan. Top clubs from all the major leagues shouldnt be able to bring in loan signings. IF they want a player buy him if they cant afford him or his wages then they shouldnt be able to take them on loan.

So; you're saying that if the current situation with Ade wasn't happening, you'd still be questioning the whole loan scenario. Right.

Of course I would. Ade has done ok. Sadly we are paying part of his wages so another club gets the benefit of that player at a fraction of the cost. I just think that loaning for the top leagues should be done away with. IF the players want to play football they will move and will cut there wage demands to play football. At the moment its like the loan move is the easy way out for them to move and play regular football while still keeping the wages with both teams paying a part of the wages which is just wrong on so many points in my view.

It's a move that benefits both clubs and the player.

City had too many top quality strikers on their books (certainly prior to Tevez' Munich strop). And they had to start readying themselves for FFP. Something had to give. Problem is that Adebayor is on the kind of wages that only a handful of clubs in world football can afford. Spurs certainly aren't one of them. And although Real Madrid had a need for Adebayor in the second half of last season, they were no longer sufficiently interested last summer.

And though it's easy enough to say that a player ought simply to take a wage cut if he wants first team football, it isn't so easy in reality to kiss goodbye to more than £100K per week (as Adebayor would have had to do if he signed permanently for Spurs).

Without the loan system, Adebayor would have been training with City's reserves or, at best, sitting on the bench. And City would still have to pay his full wages. With him on loan, he gets to play first team football and City have made some necessary inroads to reducing their wage bill.

 

[leighton]

So; you're saying that if the current situation with Ade wasn't happening, you'd still be questioning the whole loan scenario. Right.

Of course I would. Ade has done ok. Sadly we are paying part of his wages so another club gets the benefit of that player at a fraction of the cost. I just think that loaning for the top leagues should be done away with. IF the players want to play football they will move and will cut there wage demands to play football. At the moment its like the loan move is the easy way out for them to move and play regular football while still keeping the wages with both teams paying a part of the wages which is just wrong on so many points in my view.

It's a move that benefits both clubs and the player.

City had too many top quality strikers on their books (certainly prior to Tevez' Munich strop). And they had to start readying themselves for FFP. Something had to give. Problem is that Adebayor is on the kind of wages that only a handful of clubs in world football can afford. Spurs certainly aren't one of them. And although Real Madrid had a need for Adebayor in the second half of last season, they were no longer sufficiently interested last summer.

And though it's easy enough to say that a player ought simply to take a wage cut if he wants first team football, it isn't so easy in reality to kiss goodbye to more than £100K per week (as Adebayor would have had to do if he signed permanently for Spurs).

Without the loan system, Adebayor would have been training with City's reserves or, at best, sitting on the bench. And City would still have to pay his full wages. With him on loan, he gets to play first team football and City have made some necessary inroads to reducing their wage bill.

Come the end of the season Ade will end up being back at City then. The loan move is shit no matter what people say weigh it all up come the end of the year. Spurs will not pay a big transfer fee for him on top of his wages. IF this rule wasnt about then the players would just move on to play regular football and take a cut in there wages if need be.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

you should be able to loan a player in another leagues top tier but no player should be loaned into the same league the parent club competes in.

100% agree, it's not rocket science is it? I'm pretty sure this was the rule up until a few years ago. I say a few years ago, it could have been about 20 years ago!

 

[jdawson-mcfc]

I think it works both ways. If its a good player who will be demanding first team action (adebayor) to a potential title rival then maybe but it is at the clubs discretion. However i think its great to see the youger players getting a chance to ply their trade for the smaller prem teams. Look at Sturridge and Wilshere at Bolton and the obvious one as previously mentioned Joe Hart.

It can work in a teams favour but also against them so i cant see there being an ammicable solution either way.

I'd personally love to see are two young starlets Denis Suarez and Juan Roman get a chance at one of the smaller sides. Swansea would be perfect for both with the football that they play being similar to ours and it means they will come back more experienced with the pace and style.