remember arthur mann
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Please proof read.I am amazed if we are as innocent as we say, the club have not employed @gordondaviesmoustache to sort of this sham.
Please proof read.I am amazed if we are as innocent as we say, the club have not employed @gordondaviesmoustache to sort of this sham.
Your not going to find many friends here when we’re up against.
The general feeling of City fans, we don’t know if we broke rules or not, but honestly we wouldn’t change the last 15 years (although probably feel we could have had a CL).
If it turned out we doped our players or paid refs, it would be very different. As it is we spent money (more than most, but less than one). Rules are made up bollocks that would not exist if not for us.
I disagree facts are facts and the best can turn the black/ white into various shades of grey.
I think it is fair to say PL will have good counsel too, but the news of course will be expensive lawyers so City may get you off if guilty!
For the record we where saying the same about Greenwood, so we know that narrative from both sides.
Guardiola = MainwaringKhaldoon is presumably Walker, Guardiola? Pike maybe?
That sounds all fine and rational, but it will not have escaped your notice, I hope, that in a disturbingly large section of the media and virtually all other sets of supporters (especially the two red clubs in the north west), there is a prior judgement of guilty on us. And that means that we're already being tarnished before the facts have even been established.
We in fact have a fine tradition in Anglo-American law of putting the burden of proof on the plaintiff or the prosecutor. Not the defendant. That is by no means the case in the world at large. That is not being respected here, and nobody's going to tell that that sheer weight of public bile and prior judgement will have no effect on the commission of enquiry.
The PL must feel they have a pretty good case. Although it is at least possible that this is as much a sideways manoeuvre, addressed as much to a government that is just about to bring out a White Paper about the running of the PL, as it is motivated by good faith and the will to do justice on a member club. My club must feel they have a pretty good case: they would not have put out the firm club statement they have done otherwise. This is a risky, potential zero sum game for both parties.
As for myself, I suspect I speak for the vast majority of supporters on here, and probably all, when I say that I was a City supporter when we were in the Third Division (renamed to spin it so that it sounds better by communications experts) and I will be a City supporter if we find ourselves in the National League North.
I would hope that all true Arsenal supporters would adopt the same position if Arsenal found themselves in the National League South. In fact, if they are true supporters, they won't even have to think about it.
Norris wasn't available. But I shall ask my Rag s-in-l if the good and ennobled Lord is up to the job!Lord Pannick
He looks like Norris from Coronation Street
What did you think about George Graham's £425k bung back in 95? Do you think that's the only bent deal your club have been involved in?I really have no idea what you’re talking about and my response about facts referred to those being considered in the upcoming enquiry - in other words, did City break the rules or not? What think you?
It would be ironic it the Government that wants low regulation ends up stepping in and imposing an external regulator on these Muppets. Would serve them right.I agree with much of that. The action by the FA PL to my mind has always been about politics not finance with their fearing loss of power in the face of independent regulation. Common law does not apply here though and the rules are a self protecting mechanism of the closed shop which is the FA PL. As I said in my previous post, the FA PL might find that comes under scrutiny in this case and their governance structure might not survive. A big risk for them.
Would be good but I doubt it'll work like that, hope you're right though.So $80k for a KC a day plus team costs, nice little invoice for the PL to pick up if we win + damages etc...isn't that how it works?