Lucy Letby infant murders trial

HelloCity said:
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Crazy how someone so ‘normal’ was pulling this off. It just makes it even more psychotic that she was going about her every day life and nights out with mates, who thought she was just like everyone else, and yet this was all going on in the background. Like imagine committing crimes so bad you’re literally in the same bracket as Rose West and Myra Hindley ffs. Obviously feel sorry for the lives that were lost and the parents of those babies, but Jesus Christ, imagine being her mum and dad also and them having to live on knowing their daughter is jailed for life for these crimes.
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I wonder where that picture was taken, some sort of stadium.
 
I know this may seem a strange thought but I keep wondering about how Judith Moritz,the BBC reporter who has followed this from the start and been involved in talking to the parents and attending the trial every day, will be affected and cope. I just hope that the BBC as well as giving a number for ‘anyone affected by the reports’ they are hearing, makes sure that she is looked after as well.

This also goes for other news reporters of course but I have only ever seen her reports.
Just my thoughts. Sorry.
 
Berts Neck said:
The stats are clear in terms of mortality rates pre and post Letby.. Have no doubt guilty and will have her comeuppance. Watch the Panorama show and I actually know someone who worked with her. People say she was a good nurse. A good family, normal upbringing. What I do can not see is what makes someone do that. I am not making excuses but something made her behave that way, nature, nurture, not a clue. But she does not come acrosss as the typical mass murderer and in fact am not making excuses as she has what she deserved. More a question of why the fuck does someone do it ?? Not sure will get the answer. In truth asssited on a certain blonde murderer having a hysterectomy..trust me..she looked evil.
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Found this a fascinating article to read, not sure the answer will ever come out either.

www.bbc.co.uk

What I learned about Lucy Letby after 10 months in court

The nurse was questioned for nearly 60 hours - the BBC's Judith Moritz watched it all.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Eccles Blue said:
I know this may seem a strange thought but I keep wondering about how Judith Moritz,the BBC reporter who has followed this from the start and been involved in talking to the parents and attending the trial every day, will be affected and cope. I just hope that the BBC as well as giving a number for ‘anyone affected by the reports’ they are hearing, makes sure that she is looked after as well.

This also goes for other news reporters of course but I have only ever seen her reports.
Just my thoughts. Sorry.
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The report I just posted by her was one of the best I’ve read in a long time.
 
meltonblue said:
The report I just posted by her was one of the best I’ve read in a long time.
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Yes, I read that report the other day and that is what started me along this route of thought worrying about how it was all affecting her.
I know it probably sounds silly but we do, I think, take the reporting and the reporters for granted.


I know I’m daft but that’s me!!
 
Eccles Blue said:
I know this may seem a strange thought but I keep wondering about how Judith Moritz,the BBC reporter who has followed this from the start and been involved in talking to the parents and attending the trial every day, will be affected and cope. I just hope that the BBC as well as giving a number for ‘anyone affected by the reports’ they are hearing, makes sure that she is looked after as well.

This also goes for other news reporters of course but I have only ever seen her reports.
Just my thoughts. Sorry.
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She'll definitely be well looked after and given the time off she needs. But I don't think she would take on this work unless she was still resilient enough to do it.

She's probably unparalleled in her particular niche subject (trials and inquiries), an absolutely outstanding professional who radiates compassion and knowledge of the topic she's has covered.
 
Eccles Blue said:
Yes, I read that report the other day and that is what started me along this route of thought worrying about how it was all affecting her.
I know it probably sounds silly but we do, I think, take the reporting and the reporters for granted.


I know I’m daft but that’s me!!
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No, I thought the exact same thing and my first reaction on hearing the news today was to look and see if she’d written anything else.

It’s a really odd case as there’s really no rationalising it at all. There’s no admission of guilt, there’s no past history that would indicate anything, there’s seemingly a stable home life, it’s one of those where if you think how do we stop a person like Letby ever be in the position where they could do something like that again, it’s essentially impossible and that’s a very sobering thought.
 
lust overlord said:
Hopefully not.
She should be in the most spartan of cells,no t.v,no fuck all,except the basics, for the rest of her time in jail.

Cuts down the opportunity of vicariously reliving her crimes.
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Should be a live prime time hanging on every tv channel, followed by one daily, emptying the prisons of child rapists and child murderers
 
Berts Neck said:
The stats are clear in terms of mortality rates pre and post Letby.. Have no doubt guilty and will have her comeuppance. Watch the Panorama show and I actually know someone who worked with her. People say she was a good nurse. A good family, normal upbringing. What I do can not see is what makes someone do that. I am not making excuses but something made her behave that way, nature, nurture, not a clue. But she does not come acrosss as the typical mass murderer and in fact am not making excuses as she has what she deserved. More a question of why the fuck does someone do it ?? Not sure will get the answer. In truth asssited on a certain blonde murderer having a hysterectomy..trust me..she looked evil.
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I'm sure I read somewhere, it might have been after the Shipman case, that some people have what psychiatrists call a God complex. A lot of doctors and nurses literally have the power of life and death in their hands. 99% of the time that power is used for good but for the 1%, or less, like Shipman and the like it's used badly. For them it's the thrill of deciding who lives or dies.
 
Berts Neck said:
The stats are clear in terms of mortality rates pre and post Letby.. Have no doubt guilty and will have her comeuppance. Watch the Panorama show and I actually know someone who worked with her. People say she was a good nurse. A good family, normal upbringing. What I do can not see is what makes someone do that. I am not making excuses but something made her behave that way, nature, nurture, not a clue. But she does not come acrosss as the typical mass murderer and in fact am not making excuses as she has what she deserved. More a question of why the fuck does someone do it ?? Not sure will get the answer. In truth asssited on a certain blonde murderer having a hysterectomy..trust me..she looked evil.
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Just got a gut feeling it had something to do with her infatuation for one of the doctors. The only time she got emotional in court was when questioned about him.
 
paulchapo said:
I'm sure I read somewhere, it might have been after the Shipman case, that some people have what psychiatrists call a God complex. A lot of doctors and nurses literally have the power of life and death in their hands. 99% of the time that power is used for good but for the 1%, or less, like Shipman and the like it's used badly. For them it's the thrill of deciding who lives or dies.
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That's exactly right. She was trusted implicitly by all around her. She controlled the environment. Had she stopped earlier, she wouldn't have been caught, but, she took her power for granted and got careless as time went on, and forgot to watch her back. Retaining records at her home - trophies - was a stupid mistake.
Perhaps in the end, such people with a feeling of God-power - the God complex - need to go on until they are caught so someone can work out just how clever they've been; they 'get off'' on that as well as the control over everyone affected by their actions.
To me, it's an extreme mental sickness - as well as evil. I suspect that more skeletons will be uncovered and the enquiry will find that she can be linked as the common denominator in many other deaths and near deaths which have caused long term damage. And all this will be very very expensive in damages (astronomical - paying for parent's mental ill health consequences; care costs for life for damaged babies, etc) - to everyone affected as, ultimately, the NHS will be liable for all her actions whilst in their employment
 
Gray said:
Just got a gut feeling it had something to do with her infatuation for one of the doctors. The only time she got emotional in court was when questioned about him.
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I think the same particularly to begin with. But then I think she got a buzz from the grief and pain of the families.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
I don't understand why they can't just drag the offender to the dock to hear the sentence. They have the powers now, they force them into the cell , they can force them out. As a country we worry way too much about crap like this and the rights of offenders. Literally no one cares about the rights of murderers.
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You don't understand because you've never undertaken a cell extraction. And without sounding 'woke', offenders do have rights.

Should she have been present in court? Of course. Can we make offenders? No. This is just populist nonsense. What next, referendum on hanging?
 
bert38 said:
You don't understand because you've never undertaken a cell extraction. And without sounding 'woke', offenders do have rights.

Should she have been present in court? Of course. Can we make offenders? No. This is just populist nonsense. What next, referendum on hanging?
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Probably worth saying that you’re a retired ex copper, I think, for context.

Re your question, there’s already been a thread started on it. :-(
 
bert38 said:
You don't understand because you've never undertaken a cell extraction. And without sounding 'woke', offenders do have rights.

Should she have been present in court? Of course. Can we make offenders? No. This is just populist nonsense. What next, referendum on hanging?
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I take it you have then? Honest question, if an offender doesn't want to go in a cell, what do you do then? Say OK it's your right not to? Same applies to removing someone surely. What's the difference?

As for your populist nonsense put down and silly hanging remark, I know it grieves some people who feel their opinion should override that of others and that the will of the masses should not be taken into account but that's how democracy should work im afraid.
 
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