TCIB said:oakiecokie said:didactic said:Absolute rubbish so you telling me that Mancini and the Italian national coach have less football knowledge than you? Why do they start him if he is so poor? Italy has hundreds of strikers yet Mario started. Get a grip your personal feelings are clouding your judgement. Look how many games he played and how many he scored. He out scored most strikers in the PL and yet you say he cannot score 1 on 1. Give me a break. I hate people who just jump on a players back for no reason he did nothing wrong and that yellow was a joke. The chance he missed he created himself. No English striker in the current squad is better than Mario besides Rooney. Thats how shit he is.
Mmmmmm.
Bit rich that,as you`re not much different.
By the way,with the 3 penalties scored in the PL,Mario only managed 10 other PL goals and was outdone by.RVP,Rooney,Sergio,Ba,Dempsey,Yakubu,Ade,Dzeko.Holt ... need I go on ?
-- Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:27 pm --
TCIB said:Didn't watch.
Why was Mario doing that in the gif ? why did he lose the plot ?
When he doesn`t get his own way,he does as we`ve seen before.Toys out of the pram job !!
Well that's just fucking not good enough. I gave him chance due to us managing to win the league and that pass to Aguero showed he can do it but if he is just reverting to this crap again, meh.
Not good enough Mario, you need to toughen up mentally sunshine.
didactic said:Exeter Blue I am here said:
didactic said:Absolute rubbish so you telling me that Mancini and the Italian national coach have less football knowledge than you? Why do they start him if he is so poor? Italy has hundreds of strikers yet Mario started. Get a grip your personal feelings are clouding your judgement. Look how many games he played and how many he scored. He out scored most strikers in the PL and yet you say he cannot score 1 on 1. Give me a break. I hate people who just jump on a players back for no reason he did nothing wrong and that yellow was a joke. The chance he missed he created himself. No English striker in the current squad is better than Mario besides Rooney. Thats how shit he is.
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Dear oh dear. I thought you'd stop after embarrassing yourself the once, but you just keep on digging. Not one of the 4 points I raised answered I see (probably because as simple facts, you can't counter them) and now a fresh load of raving about things you think I've said when actually I haven't.
Again, go back to my original post and read slowly. Then get back to me and let me know where I claim to have more knowledge than Mancini or the Italian coach, or where it is even remotely implied. I simply highlighted one aspect of Mario's game in which he is deficient, an argument you have yet to counter with any evidence by the way, and you go ranting on about my feelings clouding my judgment. And on that theme where do I claim Mario is "so poor?". I can see where I've called him a "good player", but not where I've called him "poor" or "shit".
To continue further, yes he outscored most players in the Premiership last season, but that does not preclude the possibility that in one on one's (ie through on the keeper) his record is poor. The only time he scored in such a situation this season was away at Chelsea, but I can name several where he made a complete pig's ear of it. As to where I mention his yellow card, well that's anyone's guess, but I would contend that banging his fists into the floor 2 minutes beforehand like a demented toddler, greatly enhanced the likelihood of his copping a yellow the next time he even breathed out of line. And so it proved.
For the record, and just so as you're clear, I actually think Mario is a very talented player. I don't think he comes close to maximising his potential though, chiefly because he can't control himself and until he learns not to indulge himself at the team's expense (something he did several times last season), he will always be of limited value to us.
If you can manage to reply without blustering, veering wildly off at a tangent or just plain old talking shit, please feel free.
oakiecokie said:didactic said:Exeter Blue I am here said:Try reading it again, dimwit. First of all the game wasn't on BBC, it was on ITV. Secondly, the commentator on ITV barely mentioned it (note I said commentator and not post match pundits). Thirdly, what relevance is there in what was said on ESPN? Newsflash - no fucker in this country was watching on ESPN! Fourthly, I deliberately referred to Mario's finishing in one specific scenario, ie when he's clean through one on one with the keeper, not his finishing in general. From memory I can recall him converting just twice in these circumstances, once against Villa in the Cup (a snorter) and once at Stamford Bridge when he rounded Cech. Other than that he makes a pigs ear of it nearly every time. The only bullshit around is your own
Absolute rubbish so you telling me that Mancini and the Italian national coach have less football knowledge than you? Why do they start him if he is so poor? Italy has hundreds of strikers yet Mario started. Get a grip your personal feelings are clouding your judgement. Look how many games he played and how many he scored. He out scored most strikers in the PL and yet you say he cannot score 1 on 1. Give me a break. I hate people who just jump on a players back for no reason he did nothing wrong and that yellow was a joke. The chance he missed he created himself. No English striker in the current squad is better than Mario besides Rooney. Thats how shit he is.
Mmmmmm.
Bit rich that,as you`re not much different.
By the way,with the 3 penalties scored in the PL,Mario only managed 10 other PL goals and was outdone by.RVP,Rooney,Sergio,Ba,Dempsey,Yakubu,Ade,Dzeko.Holt ... need I go on ?
-- Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:27 pm --
TCIB said:Didn't watch.
Why was Mario doing that in the gif ? why did he lose the plot ?
When he doesn`t get his own way,he does as we`ve seen before.Toys out of the pram job !!
oakiecokie said:Exeter Blue I am here said:
Dear oh dear. I thought you'd stop after embarrassing yourself the once, but you just keep on digging. Not one of the 4 points I raised answered I see (probably because as simple facts, you can't counter them) and now a fresh load of raving about things you think I've said when actually I haven't.
Again, go back to my original post and read slowly. Then get back to me and let me know where I claim to have more knowledge than Mancini or the Italian coach, or where it is even remotely implied. I simply highlighted one aspect of Mario's game in which he is deficient, an argument you have yet to counter with any evidence by the way, and you go ranting on about my feelings clouding my judgment. And on that theme where do I claim Mario is "so poor?". I can see where I've called him a "good player", but not where I've called him "poor" or "shit".
To continue further, yes he outscored most players in the Premiership last season, but that does not preclude the possibility that in one on one's (ie through on the keeper) his record is poor. The only time he scored in such a situation this season was away at Chelsea, but I can name several where he made a complete pig's ear of it. As to where I mention his yellow card, well that's anyone's guess, but I would contend that banging his fists into the floor 2 minutes beforehand like a demented toddler, greatly enhanced the likelihood of his copping a yellow the next time he even breathed out of line. And so it proved.
For the record, and just so as you're clear, I actually think Mario is a very talented player. I don't think he comes close to maximising his potential though, chiefly because he can't control himself and until he learns not to indulge himself at the team's expense (something he did several times last season), he will always be of limited value to us.
If you can manage to reply without blustering, veering wildly off at a tangent or just plain old talking shit, please feel free.
Oh shit !! You`re in for it now mate !! ;)
However I fully endorse your post.
oakiecokie said:Unfortunately thats his problem,he never will be able to toughen up mentally and at the end of the day,five wins out of five,with him playing for 20 minutes proved we did better without him.
I see he won us the title on his own then.
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Dear oh dear. I thought you'd stop after embarrassing yourself the once, but you just keep on digging. Not one of the 4 points I raised answered I see (probably because as simple facts, you can't counter them) and now a fresh load of raving about things you think I've said when actually I haven't.
Again, go back to my original post and read slowly. Then get back to me and let me know where I claim to have more knowledge than Mancini or the Italian coach, or where it is even remotely implied. I simply highlighted one aspect of Mario's game in which he is deficient, an argument you have yet to counter with any evidence by the way, and you go ranting on about my feelings clouding my judgment. And on that theme where do I claim Mario is "so poor?". I can see where I've called him a "good player", but not where I've called him "poor" or "shit".
To continue further, yes he outscored most players in the Premiership last season, but that does not preclude the possibility that in one on one's (ie through on the keeper) his record is poor. The only time he scored in such a situation this season was away at Chelsea, but I can name several where he made a complete pig's ear of it. As to where I mention his yellow card, well that's anyone's guess, but I would contend that banging his fists into the floor 2 minutes beforehand like a demented toddler, greatly enhanced the likelihood of his copping a yellow the next time he even breathed out of line. And so it proved.
For the record, and just so as you're clear, I actually think Mario is a very talented player. I don't think he comes close to maximising his potential though, chiefly because he can't control himself and until he learns not to indulge himself at the team's expense (something he did several times last season), he will always be of limited value to us.
If you can manage to reply without blustering, veering wildly off at a tangent or just plain old talking shit, please feel free.
didactic said:oakiecokie said:Unfortunately thats his problem,he never will be able to toughen up mentally and at the end of the day,five wins out of five,with him playing for 20 minutes proved we did better without him.
I see he won us the title on his own then.
And you know this how? Im sure we all behave exactly how we did when we were 21. Stop acting like you have some superior knowledge into how his future will develop. Italian coach even said he did nothing wrong and took him off because he was given a soft yellow.
We get it you dont like him but lets not shift facts here. He won us important points and scored in important games we would never have won the title without Mario. You can hate him all you want that truth will never change.