making sense of this club

somervillain

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Like many of you on here, I've been at a loss as far as explaining a club as maddeningly inconsistent as City have been this season. However, during today's match I had when seemed to me to be an epiphany.

If this seems obvious to some of you or has been discussed on here in a thread I've somehow missed, I apologize, but here's what I think is going on with the club.

In a nutshell, the only way City can win this season is if they score first -- and early on.

In the 18 matches in all competitions in which City have scored first, they have gone on to win 12 of those matches and drawn two.

In the 11 matches in all competitions in which City have conceded first, they have come back to win just once and earned a draw on one other occasion.

Now this might seem relatively obvious, as scoring first tends to be a huge advantage in football. But what happens after this first goal is the really interesting thing.

When City score first, they have a +11 goal differential (27 for, 16 against) the rest of the match. When City concede first, they have a -1 goal differential (9 for, 10 against) the rest of the match.

When you break down City's 53 goals in competitions, 23 have come while leading, 21 while even, and just nine while behind.

Now this leads me to two potential explanations:

1. City are a mentally fragile side that don't deal well with falling behind and aren't able to pull themselves together and rebound from that.

2. City rely almost exclusively on counterattacking for goals, so when opponents go on top and tend to stop attacking, these opportunities disappear, meaning City are left to produce goals from build-up play and set pieces.

Or possibly a combination of the two.

Either way, this is something that needs to change going forward if City are to make a return to Europe next season.
 
somervillain said:
Like many of you on here, I've been at a loss as far as explaining a club as maddeningly inconsistent as City have been this season. However, during today's match I had when seemed to me to be an epiphany.

If this seems obvious to some of you or has been discussed on here in a thread I've somehow missed, I apologize, but here's what I think is going on with the club.

In a nutshell, the only way City can win this season is if they score first -- and early on.

In the 18 matches in all competitions in which City have scored first, they have gone on to win 12 of those matches and drawn two.

In the 11 matches in all competitions in which City have conceded first, they have come back to win just once and earned a draw on one other occasion.

Now this might seem relatively obvious, as scoring first tends to be a huge advantage in football. But what happens after this first goal is the really interesting thing.

When City score first, they have a +11 goal differential (27 for, 16 against) the rest of the match. When City concede first, they have a -1 goal differential (9 for, 10 against) the rest of the match.

When you break down City's 53 goals in competitions, 23 have come while leading, 21 while even, and just nine while behind.

Now this leads me to two potential explanations:

1. City are a mentally fragile side that don't deal well with falling behind and aren't able to pull themselves together and rebound from that.

2. City rely almost exclusively on counterattacking for goals, so when opponents go on top and tend to stop attacking, these opportunities disappear, meaning City are left to produce goals from build-up play and set pieces.

Or possibly a combination of the two.

Either way, this is something that needs to change going forward if City are to make a return to Europe next season.
You forgot the bit about us conceding the most point from leading positions in the Prem (15, I think). Chelsea, the Dippers and Spuds (all losses) and the Barcodes, Hull and Fulham (all draws).
 
ballinio said:
Work city out ? dont even try, like trying to understand a woman

Even though I'm a girl, that made me giggle :P

We're just one huge rollercoaster ride.
 
jimharri said:
You forgot the bit about us conceding the most point from leading positions in the Prem (15, I think). Chelsea, the Dippers and Spuds (all losses) and the Barcodes, Hull and Fulham (all draws).

Sure, there's also the question of the defending, which has been awful. I was looking mostly at the attack, after watching a club that couldn't get anything going against bottomfeeders West Brom run roughshod over Hull today.

If you're looking for an explanation for the defensive mistakes, don't look at me. I'm at a loss. The defense should be much, much better than it has been so far.
 
Why is it that no matter who the players or the manager, City are still City?

Is it something ingrained in the club's history? Makes no sense to me.
 
maybe just maybe today was the spark that will light their arses in gear for a respectable 2nd half of the season and a top 10 finish.
 
somervillain said:
1. City are a mentally fragile side that don't deal well with falling behind and aren't able to pull themselves together and rebound from that.

2. City rely almost exclusively on counterattacking for goals, so when opponents go on top and tend to stop attacking, these opportunities disappear, meaning City are left to produce goals from build-up play and set pieces.

Point 2 is pretty obvious all round, but point 1 could just as easily be down to a manager who cannot change things when the chips go against us, and this has been obvious to most in many of the games this season.

Good managers are capable of regularly changing games when their teams go behind, there is little evidence so far that Hughes can do this.

Before anyone jumps on me for trying to turn this into an anti Hughes topic, i'm not, its a fact, and I'm happy to have it pointed to me where he has done so.
 
Knight1979 said:
maybe just maybe today was the spark that will light their arses in gear for a respectable 2nd half of the season and a top 10 finish.
oh dear, you`ve fell for it !
 

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