Manchester City vs Liverpool pre-match thread

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Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Scouse_Jimi said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Sooooo you decide to reinforce a media portrayal by stating sakashit is a superior player to Demi, what's laughable is if your watched the guy, read a few stats now and again, that his percentage balls won, aerial duels, and pass completion, make sakashit look like Helen Keller...... That's also in a superior attacking team, you've played 34/35 games this season, compared to our 50 plus already, our tail off period has coincided with kuns injury and fatigue, coupled with having the smallest squad usage in the prem......

Defend your team by all means, not make a tit of yourself by getting giddy though la

I can't wait for this Sunday as the reality is we can take 2 of 3 results against you, I'll take those odds laAaaaaasa

And just to add- fucking bring it you shellsuit wearing, bin dipping, watch robbing, Stanley slashing, dole supporting cunttttttttt

(Chats how you reinforce a stereotype)

Let's dig into those stats shall we?

Sakho has far superior pass stats
Sakho has far superior stats for the number of defensive actions
Sakho has a far better % of winning duels
Sakho has played far less games...

That giddy or facts? Fact's lad...as for getting giddy - your tail off coincided with Agueros injury "ONE MAN TEAM" that's getting giddy....

As for utilising the least amount of players yet paying the largest amount of wages - well that's just bad planning isn't it?
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/720833/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2013-2014-Liverpool-Manchester-City" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/720833 ... ester-City</a>
Passing - MDM 89%
Sakho 92%
Tackles MDM 1.9
Sakho 1.7
Intercepts MDM 2.4, Sakho 1.8
Fouls both 0.6
Offsides MDM 0.6, Sakho 0.4
Clearances MDM 7.2 Sakho 7.5
Shots Blocked MDM 0.3 Sakho 0.5
Appearances MDM 20, Sakho 13(1)
Pretty similar and Sakho hasn't played against Barcelona, Bayern Munich and missed most of your difficult league games as well, didn't he?
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Matty said:
What tail off exactly would that be?

1 league defeat in our last 19 league games, and that was to Chelsea?

Being knocked out of Europe by Barcelona, a side who were favourites anyway, and scored 3 of their 4 goals in the 2 ties when they had a man advantage?

Being knocked out of the FA Cup by Wigan, in a game Aguero likely would have been rested for anyway, as were Hart, Kompany, Silva, Fernandinho and Zabaleta?

Winning the League Cup?

City haven't tailed off at all, if we'd not been as successful as we have been in the cups (combined with bad weather) we could very well be top of the league now.

That needs answering by Zim Zim or whatever his name is...his words, not mine.
 
Anfield worst atmosphere ive ever witnessed, we will outsing them once again after their little show at the start,

Never used to mind their fans but fuck me after glancing through RAWK it is the most cringeworthy shite ive read. Anyone read that general rodgers?! Deary me, It is not your right to win fuck all, the 96(rest in peace) are not carrying you to the title either you daft fucks. If you win your last 5, fair play but get a grip its not won yet.

Underestimate us all you want, we have the big game players, we are not arsenal or spurs. City are coming to take you down a peg you giddy fuckers.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

aguero93:20 said:
Passing - MDM 89%
Sakho 92%
Tackles MDM 1.9
Sakho 1.7
Intercepts MDM 2.4, Sakho 1.8
Fouls both 0.6
Offsides MDM 0.6, Sakho 0.4
Clearances MDM 7.2 Sakho 7.5
Shots Blocked MDM 0.3 Sakho 0.5
Appearances MDM 20, Sakho 13(1)
Pretty similar and Sakho hasn't played against Barcelona, Bayern Munich and missed most of your difficult league games as well, didn't he?

I took the numbers from Squawka - that's EPL only. Much fairer comparison no?
 
The spine of the City team, Hart, Kompany, Fernandihno, Toure, Silva and Dzeko/Aguero/Negredo is superior to Liverpools, end of.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Scouse_Jimi said:
Matty said:
Firstly, on your assessment of the two lineups.

1 - Sakho is young and promising, but to claim "he'll be on a par with Kompany in 2 years" is just pie in the sky thinking. Kompany is one of, if not the, best centre half in World football, Sakho has a long, long way to go until he's at that level, if he ever reaches it.

2 - Johnson and Zabaleta aren't equal, Zabaleta is better as he's a far more capable defender whilst also being able to contribute offensively. Zabaleta and Ivanovic are the league's two best right backs.

3 - Why on earth you've decided to link Sterling and Navas is beyond me. Ignoring the fact I'd have Navas over Sterling anyway, it will likely be Nasri and not Navas who plays, and Nasri is far better than Sterling as a footballer.

4 - Quite why you've decided to link Dzeko with Sturridge, and then Suarez with Aguero is also baffling, although I guess I shouldn't really be "baffled" as it was the only way to get another Liverpool player in the lineup. Clearly the 2 best forards, by some distance, in our two squads are Suarez and Aguero. To claim Sturridge and not Aguero should be in the 11 based solely on who you compare to who, is farcical.

So, essentially, in an 11 man starting lineup, you'd probably have 2 or 3 Liverpool players. Saurez is a given, Sakho/Skrtel would probably be the other centre half (although that's more down to our lack of quality there than anything else, something we'll address in the summer) whereas Gerrard is probably marginally ahead of Fernandinho, but that's a margin that's likely to close given Gerrard will be 34 a few weeks after the season ends so isn't going to get any better and likely will decline sooner rather than later.

Liverpool's season has been superb, but you're kidding yourselves if you think the Anfield "atmosphere" will have any real affect on City's players. They've all played in some very intense atmospheres over the past few seasons, Old Trafford, the Bernabeu, The Nou Camp, The Allianz Arena, several cup games at Wembley, it's nothing new to them.

You're entitled to be bullish about your prospects of winning but it's worth noting that City's last 10 away league games (after a horrible start to the season) read as follows, won 7, drawn 3, lost 0, scored 24 conceded 9, 24 points from 30 on offer. We haven't lost an away league game since early November, that's 5 months ago! Add to that the fact that 5 of our last 6 trips to Anfield have ended in draws and a Liverpool win isn't looking like the most obvious of results.

Great post mate.

1 - we'll have to wait and see, captaining your country (even if it is France) at such a young age says a lot.
2 - Squawka stats would disagree with you...Johnsonhas created more chances and unbelievably has a better defensive record than Zab
3 - Navas is a winger as is Sterling, not seen many league games but Navas seems to play a bit more since Nasris injury?
4 - Agreed - had to shoe horn some more in, I'm allowed a little bias no?

I don't think it will be a draw, a draw plays into Citys hands. If we're drawing at 70-80 I expect us to chuck the kitchen sink at you and if we don't score I imagine you'll catch us on the counter.

Johnson: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/glen-johnson#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/glen-joh ... ance-score</a>#liverpool-(current)#english-barclays-premier-league#8#season-2013/2014#64#all-matches#1-33#by-match

Zab: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/pablo-zabaleta#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/pablo-za ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#english-barclays-premier-league#8#season-2013/2014#64#all-matches#1-31#by-match
Your problem there mate is that Zabaleta is widely accepted as one of the best right backs in world football, Johnson isn't even widely accepted as englands best right back.<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:23 pm --<br /><br />
Scouse_Jimi said:
aguero93:20 said:
Passing - MDM 89%
Sakho 92%
Tackles MDM 1.9
Sakho 1.7
Intercepts MDM 2.4, Sakho 1.8
Fouls both 0.6
Offsides MDM 0.6, Sakho 0.4
Clearances MDM 7.2 Sakho 7.5
Shots Blocked MDM 0.3 Sakho 0.5
Appearances MDM 20, Sakho 13(1)
Pretty similar and Sakho hasn't played against Barcelona, Bayern Munich and missed most of your difficult league games as well, didn't he?

I took the numbers from Squawka - that's EPL only. Much fairer comparison no?
I didn't see any numbers tbh.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Scouse_Jimi said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Sooooo you decide to reinforce a media portrayal by stating sakashit is a superior player to Demi, what's laughable is if your watched the guy, read a few stats now and again, that his percentage balls won, aerial duels, and pass completion, make sakashit look like Helen Keller...... That's also in a superior attacking team, you've played 34/35 games this season, compared to our 50 plus already, our tail off period has coincided with kuns injury and fatigue, coupled with having the smallest squad usage in the prem......

Defend your team by all means, not make a tit of yourself by getting giddy though la

I can't wait for this Sunday as the reality is we can take 2 of 3 results against you, I'll take those odds laAaaaaasa

And just to add- fucking bring it you shellsuit wearing, bin dipping, watch robbing, Stanley slashing, dole supporting cunttttttttt

(Chats how you reinforce a stereotype)

Let's dig into those stats shall we?

Sakho has far superior pass stats
Sakho has far superior stats for the number of defensive actions
Sakho has a far better % of winning duels
Sakho has played far less games...

That giddy or facts? Fact's lad...as for getting giddy - your tail off coincided with Agueros injury "ONE MAN TEAM" that's getting giddy....

As for utilising the least amount of players yet paying the largest amount of wages - well that's just bad planning isn't it?


Sakho has played far less games...er, doesn't that mean everything you have posted is a crock of shit, then?

As for the smaller amount of players we have utilised, it comes with injuries, you know, when you are playing more than a 45-game season.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

aguero93:20 said:
Your problem there mate is that Zabaleta is widely accepted as one of the best right backs in world football, Johnson isn't even widely accepted as englands best right back.

Yeh - that's why I picked Zab ahead of Johnson in my 11...I was responding to Mattys points regarding the stats. At no point have I EVER said Johnson was better...
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Matty said:
Scouse_Jimi said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Sooooo you decide to reinforce a media portrayal by stating sakashit is a superior player to Demi, what's laughable is if your watched the guy, read a few stats now and again, that his percentage balls won, aerial duels, and pass completion, make sakashit look like Helen Keller...... That's also in a superior attacking team, you've played 34/35 games this season, compared to our 50 plus already, our tail off period has coincided with kuns injury and fatigue, coupled with having the smallest squad usage in the prem......

Defend your team by all means, not make a tit of yourself by getting giddy though la

I can't wait for this Sunday as the reality is we can take 2 of 3 results against you, I'll take those odds laAaaaaasa

And just to add- fucking bring it you shellsuit wearing, bin dipping, watch robbing, Stanley slashing, dole supporting cunttttttttt

(Chats how you reinforce a stereotype)

Let's dig into those stats shall we?

Sakho has far superior pass stats
Sakho has far superior stats for the number of defensive actions
Sakho has a far better % of winning duels
Sakho has played far less games...

That giddy or facts? Fact's lad...as for getting giddy - your tail off coincided with Agueros injury "ONE MAN TEAM" that's getting giddy....

As for utilising the least amount of players yet paying the largest amount of wages - well that's just bad planning isn't it?

What tail off exactly would that be?

1 league defeat in our last 19 league games, and that was to Chelsea?

Being knocked out of Europe by Barcelona, a side who were favourites anyway, and scored 3 of their 4 goals in the 2 ties when they had a man advantage?

Being knocked out of the FA Cup by Wigan, in a game Aguero likely would have been rested for anyway, as were Hart, Kompany, Silva, Fernandinho and Zabaleta?

Winning the League Cup?

City haven't tailed off at all, if we'd not been as successful as we have been in the cups (combined with bad weather) we could very well be top of the league now.

Of course City have tailed off.

Were lucky to beat these fuckers on Boxing Day and have bottled every big game since (LC final excepted).

Prepare to see City meekly srrender this one too on Sunday. No bottle.
 
Re: Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

Scouse_Jimi said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Sooooo you decide to reinforce a media portrayal by stating sakashit is a superior player to Demi, what's laughable is if your watched the guy, read a few stats now and again, that his percentage balls won, aerial duels, and pass completion, make sakashit look like Helen Keller...... That's also in a superior attacking team, you've played 34/35 games this season, compared to our 50 plus already, our tail off period has coincided with kuns injury and fatigue, coupled with having the smallest squad usage in the prem......

Defend your team by all means, not make a tit of yourself by getting giddy though la

I can't wait for this Sunday as the reality is we can take 2 of 3 results against you, I'll take those odds laAaaaaasa

And just to add- fucking bring it you shellsuit wearing, bin dipping, watch robbing, Stanley slashing, dole supporting cunttttttttt

(Chats how you reinforce a stereotype)

Let's dig into those stats shall we?

Sakho has far superior pass stats
Sakho has far superior stats for the number of defensive actions
Sakho has a far better % of winning duels
Sakho has played far less games...

That giddy or facts? Fact's lad...as for getting giddy - your tail off coincided with Agueros injury "ONE MAN TEAM" that's getting giddy....

As for utilising the least amount of players yet paying the largest amount of wages - well that's just bad planning isn't it?

You've just made yourself look even sillier. You do realise the more games you play the higher the chance those stats have of decreasing?
 
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