Mancini' interview to Gazzetta about Mario, Mansour,United

[adrianr]

I just saw a really poor report on Sly Sports News mocking Mancini's comment that his squad wouldn't be big enough if we sold anyone. It listed our starting 11 (by appearances) then a second 11 and mentioned Maicon as Rekik as two others who could play......... while ignoring that a big number of the players mentioned are injured, including Micah until possibly the end of February, and of course that if we sold players there would be even fewer to choose from. None of that mentioned while the slag behind the desk had an almost mocking tone as she spoke.

Haha, see the sports moment of the year topic mate. Just typed that out nearly word for word! Such a load of bollocks. Would they have gone to all that effort to pick apart a comment by Fergie if he said they couldn't sell anyone? I somehow doubt it.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The fact that mansour loves mario because he takes the name of city around the world must strike fear into the hearts of those who keep proclaiming that ADUG wouldn't want mourinho;-)

Difficult to argue with that tbh.

Happy New Year, DD.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

By "alternative to the consensus", you mean "information that you ask us to solely trust you on despite contradicting comments from the people involved"?

And by "general hostility" you mean "questioning of the above".

People have never took your word at face value on anything, I have no idea why you think this is a new thing brought about by consensus.
More to the point, I honestly don't trust your information on Mancini and especially Marwood and think your personal opinion or the personal opinion of those feeding you this stuff is skewed at every single step to paint Mancini in the worst possible light. I think in particularly, you or the people you speak to, are fed information for the sole purposes of meeting the agenda of certain people, which you've previously alluded to and we had a PM conversation about after the nonsense that was the completely fabricated Mancini-Juve-Khaldoon argument, just to name one incident.
I think you trust this information as accurate and in good faith which is fine and understandable but taints yours and several others people's opinion on the manager and his abilities.

This is obviously a guess based on the small facts that I do know because I have no other explanation to why you've seemingly took a nosedive on the manager since about last October time. Either this or you've locked yourself into an echo chamber; I do see that "City are better than Mancini" arrogance in your posts now and again and I'm pretty sure we've danced this dance over this before.

I have no dislike and I don't think you're stupid but I often question the rationality of your posts about Mancini, in particularly with his relationships with others and how this affects your overall opinion. To put this a better way, we've disagreed probably hundreds of times in the past over numerous subjects. But never before have you gave an opinion and when questioned later called either persecution or winking/nodding as a way to back up your opinion, and it's a tactic that annoys others as it's a bit of a cop out.

As I say, I can only guess to the causes of it and have given what I think to be a possible cause. It's probably confusing correlation and causation but it's the best I have. There's been a sea change over the last year or so that seems to defy rational explanation. If you could explain why you posts do seem to have the underlying ideal that our highly decorated manager doesn't know what he's doing (either by direct mention or insinuation), then, and I say this in good faith, I'm all ears for it. Billy and Dave's opinion I've always understood; not agreed, but I see where they are coming from at least. With you, I'm at a loss to explain why you have seemingly changed from a person who respected Mancini's accomplishments in the game and thought he was a great manager to seemingly deriding him often, whilst we've simultaneously gone through our most successful period since Big Joe. I suppose the sarcasm and contempt that you get from me comes because I honestly don't understand your opinion.

Very well put, it's the unshakable belief that he has to be gone that confuses me, it's not exactly Allan Ball is it

It confuses many of us

Because many of the football-savvy people on the forum and beyond see his weaknesses and don't see him as having the strengths required to take the club further forward. I cant speak for Tolmie but to me Mancini's been a fucking disaster all season.

Why is that confusing?

 

[andyhinch]

Very well put, it's the unshakable belief that he has to be gone that confuses me, it's not exactly Allan Ball is it

It confuses many of us

Because many of the football-savvy people on the forum and beyond see his weaknesses and don't see him as having the strengths required to take the club further forward. I cant speak for Tolmie but to me Mancini's been a fucking disaster all season.

Why is that confusing?

Don't think anyone's talking about you

 

[Mancio]

Wait..some posters on here actually insinuating that they know better than Mancini on the Sheikh's opinion?

I honestly think this is the moment that that group have gone way over the edge of the cliff now. That's insanity.

i can recall a PM where i was saying to you that the source of all the shite mancini was getting here -from the usual suspect- was tolmie. an infamous KFA.

at that time -around an year ago- you disagreed , but now its time you agree and its time for me to say you the sentence i more hate "i told you so"

and , by the way , everybody can look at my post history , i wrote a couple of months ago that mario still had just one supporter , the most important one.

Please back up your accusations because your conspiracy theory is just wrong and bang out of order.

i'll backup my words the day you'll backup all the shite you wrote in the last two years..

i can recall a .jpg i linked into one of your "its quiet" thread more than an years ago. that was the image of an source of water dried in the Sahara desert. thats could also be your avatar if an avatar was allowed on bluemoon.

in the last two season your "in the know" knowkedge about City has been above the ones of billishears and DD , but at least everybody here know that they are bullshitters .

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The fact that mansour loves mario because he takes the name of city around the world must strike fear into the hearts of those who keep proclaiming that ADUG wouldn't want mourinho;-)

Difficult to argue with that tbh.

Happy New Year, DD.

And you GDM.

One of the very few good posters who hasn't wised up to saint bob yet ;-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The fact that mansour loves mario because he takes the name of city around the world must strike fear into the hearts of those who keep proclaiming that ADUG wouldn't want mourinho;-)

Difficult to argue with that tbh.

Happy New Year, DD.

And you GDM.

One of the very few good posters who hasn't wised up to saint bob yet ;-)

I'm too busy hunting down undercover rags to care tbh ;-)

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

i can recall a PM where i was saying to you that the source of all the shite mancini was getting here -from the usual suspect- was tolmie. an infamous KFA.

at that time -around an year ago- you disagreed , but now its time you agree and its time for me to say you the sentence i more hate "i told you so"

and , by the way , everybody can look at my post history , i wrote a couple of months ago that mario still had just one supporter , the most important one.

Please back up your accusations because your conspiracy theory is just wrong and bang out of order.

i'll backup my words the day you'll backup all the shite you wrote in the last two years..

i can recall a .jpg i linked into one of your "its quiet" thread more than an years ago. that was the image of an source of water dried in the Sahara desert. thats could also be your avatar if an avatar was allowed on bluemoon.

You are making my point for me quite clearly, thanks very much.

First and foremost, I don't need to back up my credentials to anyone, certainly someone who isn't even a blue.

I'll leave it there, as I have a family to go back to, I won't back that up on here either, but take my word for it.

Enjoy rest of your night.

 

[andyhinch]

Very well put, it's the unshakable belief that he has to be gone that confuses me, it's not exactly Allan Ball is it

It confuses many of us

Because many of the football-savvy people on the forum and beyond see his weaknesses and don't see him as having the strengths required to take the club further forward. I cant speak for Tolmie but to me Mancini's been a fucking disaster all season.

Why is that confusing?

What are your footballing credentials exactly ?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

That's naive.

What's incorrect about it?

Mancini goes to Abu Dhabi to meet our owner once a year.

As stated, he is a very busy man and trusts people who know more aIout football than him to make decisions.

At no stage was it said that he does not liaise with those who are delegated to do so.

The whole reason Marwood was always getting it in the neck from Bobby was exactly because he was the go to man.

As for the psychological profile based on my use of adjective and punctuation, that's a new one.

As they state, quite entitled to that opinion, although anyone who offers an alternative from the consensus on here, is increasingly met with a pack sarcasm, facetiousness and general hostility because it.

By "alternative to the consensus", you mean "information that you ask us to solely trust you on despite contradicting comments from the people involved"?

And by "general hostility" you mean "questioning of the above".

People have never took your word at face value on anything, I have no idea why you think this is a new thing brought about by consensus.
More to the point, I honestly don't trust your information on Mancini and especially Marwood and think your personal opinion or the personal opinion of those feeding you this stuff is skewed at every single step to paint Mancini in the worst possible light. I think in particularly, you or the people you speak to, are fed information for the sole purposes of meeting the agenda of certain people, which you've previously alluded to and we had a PM conversation about after the nonsense that was the completely fabricated Mancini-Juve-Khaldoon argument, just to name one incident.
I think you trust this information as accurate and in good faith which is fine and understandable but taints yours and several others people's opinion on the manager and his abilities.

This is obviously a guess based on the small facts that I do know because I have no other explanation to why you've seemingly took a nosedive on the manager since about last October time. Either this or you've locked yourself into an echo chamber; I do see that "City are better than Mancini" arrogance in your posts now and again and I'm pretty sure we've danced this dance over this before.

I have no dislike and I don't think you're stupid but I often question the rationality of your posts about Mancini, in particularly with his relationships with others and how this affects your overall opinion. To put this a better way, we've disagreed probably hundreds of times in the past over numerous subjects. But never before have you gave an opinion and when questioned later called either persecution or winking/nodding as a way to back up your opinion, and it's a tactic that annoys others as it's a bit of a cop out.

As I say, I can only guess to the causes of it and have given what I think to be a possible cause. It's probably confusing correlation and causation but it's the best I have. There's been a sea change over the last year or so that seems to defy rational explanation. If you could explain why you posts do seem to have the underlying ideal that our highly decorated manager doesn't know what he's doing (either by direct mention or insinuation), then, and I say this in good faith, I'm all ears for it. Billy and Dave's opinion I've always understood; not agreed, but I see where they are coming from at least. With you, I'm at a loss to explain why you have seemingly changed from a person who respected Mancini's accomplishments in the game and thought he was a great manager to seemingly deriding him often, whilst we've simultaneously gone through our most successful period since Big Joe. I suppose the sarcasm and contempt that you get from me comes because I honestly don't understand your opinion.

Since you have gone to such trouble, will do you the courtesy some point tomorrow.

October, you say?

Bloody hell, been banging the drum for Jose since Hughes!