Mancini has now managed to do with the fans exactly what he has done with the players, fall out with them . He`s opened up a wound that will prove his undoing. People will only put up with his depressing tactics for so long, as long as we keep winning but i beleive half the fans would not care if he was gone tomorrow.Soulboy said:
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Mancini on his team selection and The Carling Cup:
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Chick Counterfly said:macmanson said:Agreed that Raymond is likely doing a little self promotion but the types of injuries and where they are happening is what worries me. Chelsea's injuries have mostly been onfield playing type injuries where a good number of ours have been off field or in training itself. It's the repeated soft tissue injuries that I would be worried about. We're not seeing broken leg type injuries like Fullham or injuries as a result of rash tackles, but muscle and soft tissue injuries that are the result of overuse.
Tis a recurring theme but I worry that's because the perception was put out there, leading people notice the incidents... if you see what I mean. Scanning through phsyioroom.com, it seems the vast majority of injuries at all clubs are ligament/muscular. Yes, Zamora broke his leg, but the rest is two groins, one knee, two ankle strains and one calf.....
five hamstrings at Sunderland, now THAT's a trend.
It doesn't mention causes. I certainly thought Kolarov was out due to that bad tackle. It was straight in the ice, the prognosis got worse after a few days but doesn't the initial swelling sometime make it hard to tell the extent of the ligament damage?
Balotelli, I don't really understand... cartilage damage, they were right to leave it to heal but sometimes it doesn't, and he needed an op. he said he overextended... what struck me was that he said he didn't have much muscle on that side of his body. eh?
Boateng got his injury on international duty, or so he says 'I had problems with the knee from the [Germany] match in Copenhagen'. Then the drinks trolley. errrr, okay. They are bloody heavy mind you.
Lescott and Bridge... seems to me they always are injured.
Richards, hamstring... Ade, no comment your honour.
But yep, definitely something to watch.
I notice Ancelotti is saying Lampard is out due to a something or other. I'm more than a little suspicious of both managers' pronouncements on injured players at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised to see the dead rise from the graves an hour before kick off on Saturday.
Am I kidding myself or did we do okay last year? Certainly it was horrid during November, December, January... but I thought we did pretty well until the end of the season. Petrov had a problem but he was out of favour. Don't remember us having a problem until Given's Shoulder.
p.s., yes, I noticed Dorrans again last weekend. Not quite Milner-esque in his footwork and energy, but he has time, and he's already a very useful player, I'd take him like a shot.
It could be that Raymond has planted the seed which has people questioning the training methods. I had mentioned in my post that Kolarov and Balotelli weren't victims of training but rather bad tackles and in Balo and Boateng's cases due to previous injuries flaring up.
I would seperate the muscle versus ligament injuries though as they often have differing causes. Ligament damage often is the result of muscular imbalances which is common among soccer players. The amount of running they do tends to over strengthen the quads in relation to the calf muscle causing injuries to the knee and ankle ligaments unless players are trained appropriately. Muscle tears or strains generally result from overuse or lack of flexibility (something that muscle imbalance can worsen).
The ligament injuries tend to be very common among younger players where the likelyhood of muscular imbalance is greater due to their lack of comprehensive fitness regime. It's also a big reason why players end up injured shortly after returning from injury as the layoff often creates musclar imbalance due to limited training and flexibility. These types of injuries are harder to prevent. The muscle strain/tear injuries are the ones that Raymond believe are preventable and the ones that he criticized Mancini over (not saying he's right or wrong though).
As for last year, the soft tissue injuries have been a recurring problem as both Ade and Barry were out with hamstring/thigh problems in April.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/29/emmanuel-adebayor-gareth-barry-injury
Dorrans would be a good shout come January. A solid midfield player and still quite young.
HardyBarlow said:Saturday is more important????
Why the fuck is Saturday more important? The very real prospect of losing to Chelsea will not impact our seasons targets. A loss to Chelsea now will only serve to make Mancinci look a cock. Just like a win will not alter our sesaon that much either....it's not the results against the top sides that matter, if you beat everyone else (Sunderland and Balckburn, Roberto) you will be in the hunt.
Losing to WBA finishes our involvement in a cup competition we could have won. Mancini, do you not want to win trophies? If not, fuck off.
totally agree without doubt our best chance of a trophy, couldnt believe the team that he put out, not everyone can be injured , lets face it were not going to win anything this season now, big mistake in my opinion
We lost another defender last night to injury. Had that been a first team player, this board would be full of fans demanding mancini's head for reducing City's fit defenders to 2 in advance of the Chelsea and Juve games (3 if you think Zabeleta is a right back).tiffin said:HardyBarlow said:Saturday is more important????
Why the fuck is Saturday more important? The very real prospect of losing to Chelsea will not impact our seasons targets. A loss to Chelsea now will only serve to make Mancinci look a cock. Just like a win will not alter our sesaon that much either....it's not the results against the top sides that matter, if you beat everyone else (Sunderland and Balckburn, Roberto) you will be in the hunt.
Losing to WBA finishes our involvement in a cup competition we could have won. Mancini, do you not want to win trophies? If not, fuck off.
totally agree without doubt our best chance of a trophy, couldnt believe the team that he put out, not everyone can be injured , lets face it were not going to win anything this season now, big mistake in my opinion
we had at least 10 injured players last night:
Richards, SWP, Boateng, Kolarov, Adebayor, Balotelli, Lescott, Bridge, Nimley, M.Johnson
southern muppet
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tiffin said:HardyBarlow said:Saturday is more important????
Why the fuck is Saturday more important? The very real prospect of losing to Chelsea will not impact our seasons targets. A loss to Chelsea now will only serve to make Mancinci look a cock. Just like a win will not alter our sesaon that much either....it's not the results against the top sides that matter, if you beat everyone else (Sunderland and Balckburn, Roberto) you will be in the hunt.
Losing to WBA finishes our involvement in a cup competition we could have won. Mancini, do you not want to win trophies? If not, fuck off.
totally agree without doubt our best chance of a trophy, couldnt believe the team that he put out, not everyone can be injured , lets face it were not going to win anything this season now, big mistake in my opinion
We're capable of winning the Europa League or FA Cup. Those competitions are definitely not beyond us. Not with this team and this squad.
malg
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southern muppet said:We're capable of winning the Europa League or FA Cup. Those competitions are definitely not beyond us. Not with this team and this squad.
Any chance you can go on the 'what does your username represent/mean' thread, as it's a bit of conundrum. :-)
southern muppet
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malg said:southern muppet said:We're capable of winning the Europa League or FA Cup. Those competitions are definitely not beyond us. Not with this team and this squad.
Any chance you can go on the 'what does your username represent/mean' thread, as it's a bit of conundrum. :-)
I'm from down south, went for a slightly tongue in cheek username, and seeing as 'southern fairy' would have possibly made me sound like a bird and led to sexual harassment from the bluemoon masses... :-P