Mancini Vs Pelligrini Vs Pep

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In terms of trophies there is a clear winner.

When I look at this team there has been a common theme under our last 2 managers. Some people think it's downing of the tools. Yet both managers were at completely different ends of the scale. I loved bobby, he was a firecracker and had brilliant personality and I wanted him desperately to succeed. In the end his own fight for power and his refusal to work as part of a bigger team cost him.

Manuel came and brought calm to the club. A yes man. Very articulate, and very intelligent but with the personality of a wet sponge. Exactly the opposite to Bobby. For a season it was enough but he is currently suffering from the same end that Mancini did.

It looks like Pep is in between. Closer to Mancini I'd say. I think we have been building gradually to this moment. Pep will be the one that finally nails it, nails this squad.

The common theme I mentioned before has to stop. Some of these players have a lack of respect and that performance yesterday was gutless. It's been an issue for both of our previous 2 managers duration and it's that application that has stopped us delivering what we could have.

Neither before Pep have got 100% from the squad, can he?

Will be his biggest challenge yet.
 
With Pep they'll have to respect him, he's not scared of 'superstars'. Pretty sure at Barca he shipped out Ronaldinho for partying, re-motivated Eto'o, got rid of Yaya, benched Ibrahimovic. Don't think we'll have that problem to worry about, he'd rather play a youth player who would give 100% than a half-assed 'superstar'. With Bobby Manc he just lost control of the players, bad results led him there or vice versa.

Pellers' main issue is tactical naivety, fails to recognise the opposition, doesn't change instructions based on information, another thing Pep will be on the mark with. We all know Pep will elevate us but Pellers could at least finish this season strong if he recognised the most obvious issues! Injuries also aren't helping.
 
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Injuries have been a massive part I agree.

I think Bobby wanted rid of some of those superstars you mention. He also wanted a work ethic but never really had the backing to do it. Pep will be backed all the way.
 
MCFC1993 said:
With Pep they'll have to respect him, he's not scared of 'superstars'. Pretty sure at Barca he shipped out Ronaldinho for partying, re-motivated Eto'o, got rid of Yaya, benched Ibrahimovic. Don't think we'll have that problem to worry about, he'd rather play a youth player who would give 100% than a half-assed 'superstar'. With Bobby Manc he just lost control of the players, bad results led him there or vice versa.

Pellers' main issue is tactical naivety, fails to recognise the opposition, doesn't change instructions based on information, another thing Pep will be on the mark with. We all know Pep will elevate us but Pellers could at least finish this season strong if he recognised the most obvious issues! Injuries also aren't helping.
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I think that this is what will be Pellers' legacy rather than the double season. I cannot think that he doens't do this during the week but when you see some of the performances like the one yesterday, you could be forgiven for thinking that he completely ignores it!
 
Sometimes we think we actually are Barcelona. The way we approach football matches, there is a nonchalant way about it all.

Next year we will have the best manager in the world and I think the first thing he will do is have this team back to basics. The chip on our shoulder will be gone. It will be hard work first and recovering the ball quickly. If you don't put a shift in then you'll be out of the squad.
 
Proy said:
The chip on our shoulder will be gone. It will be hard work first and recovering the ball quickly. If you don't put a shift in then you'll be out of the squad.
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Spot on. It's something neither Mancini nor Pellegrini have effectively eradicated (the on/off nature of our performances and our general inconsistencies), and it's something which Pep will be acutely aware of as the Barca side inherited had a similar nature to them.

As he did there I expect open heart surgery on our squad with big players being fucked off.
 
1961_vintage said:
Is Pep the middle ground between the 2 extremes of management style perhaps?
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I would say so yes. If anything Pep's character is probably closer to Mancini's in terms of how he deals with players who let him down, but still not so close to Mancini that he becomes a joke the way Bobby did towards the end.

You need to be able to have authority over the players, but they need to respect you. They respect Pellegrini, but he lacks authority, they had no respect for Mancini and he was an authoritarian. I suspect they'll love and fear Pep in equal measures.
 
Pep will have the advantage of the full backing of S and T. They have staked everything on him so can't afford for him to fail. This should give him a huge advantage over Mancini.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Pep will have the advantage of the full backing of S and T. They have staked everything on him so can't afford for him to fail. This should give him a huge advantage over Mancini.
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The fact he's an infinitely better manager than Mancini (and Pellegrini) is probably all the advantage he needs.
 
Leaving aside their respective personalities, there is a huge difference in ability. Pep is category A. In fact he may be the best, but he is certainly in an elite group, alongside a fading Mourinho and Ancelotti. Mancini and Pellegrini are second tier. Pellegrini will not get a third chance at an elite club.
 
Mancinis downfall was his inability to work as part of a larger management team. He has the same discipline as Pep, but Pep can work in a group of people. Manuel can do the whole holistically managed thing but lacks the balls for me, to actually make the big decisions.

We gave the players the power when we let Bobby go and it's been that way since. It hasn't worked. That will end the moment pep walks through the door. In a way it's like stepping back to some of what Mancini did, but this time T and S will give full and absolute backing because they know and trust Pep.

For all the shit spouted about Pep going into ready made clubs, I actually think he's shown massive balls coming here because if he sorts us out he will be the greatest manager, period. The outside world have this notion that we are set and ready but I'd bet pretty much every blue knows the fundamental problems we have ATM
 
I think any player would want to work for him. The ones who are a bit longer in the tooth, maybe not but everyone else should be absolutely busting a gut to show him that they should be part of this next 3 years. Surely players want to win the CL and for the first time we have a coach who can actually help them achieve that. Why would you want to miss out on that as a player?

Hard work, an ability to understand and act upon instructions and technical ability though will be a must. Some players will fall by the wayside based on those requirements alone.

Some of our technically gifted younger players will come on a treat under him and we will sign 4/5 top notch players.

Its a bright future but for now we will have to sit through another 4 months of this to get there!
 
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