Mancini

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Yeah it's not worked has it..

Compared with last season, when he was relatively calm (apart from publicly accusing a player of something that he didn't actually do, and contributing to a 5 month exile in the process), no, it hasn't.....unless you count being likely to end the season about 12 points down on last, falling out with a player he'd pretty much staked his reputation on to the point that he had to be sold, and unnecessarily embarrassing his goalkeeper and his captain.......

Tevez clearly refused to warm up against Byern as well you know.

Indeed. However, the public accusation from Mancini (which went unproven) was that he had refused to play, not that he had refused to go and warm up some more

 

[squirtyflower]

how can an opinion be truth?

If it accurately describes what it is being referenced...

but it is just your opinion, an interesting opinion, but it isn't based on fact therefore has no relevance

would my opinion that the players love playing for Mancini and enjoy his management style have equal stature to yours?

however how my opinion is derived?

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

how can an opinion be truth?

If it accurately describes what it is being referenced...

Ok,I'll humour you awhile longer,seeing as it's a slow bank holiday Monday.
How can your prediction that Mancini will be gone soon be validated with the actual evidence and facts that would render it true,rather than pure,baseless speculation?

 

[Blue Heaven]

How many times have you said "I could have killed/punched/kicked him"? It's just Italian for Nasri can be really frustrating, it doesn't mean he literally wanted to punch him. Lost in translation.

You don't really believe that do you?

"Its just Italian" pmsl

It's an English journo putting his spin on a Mancini "joke", nothing more, nothing less.

The BBC gossip column says "Mancini joked"...

Do you really, honestly believe that he literally wanted to punch Nasri? Pmsl, as you seem to be fond of saying.

Well, sometimes I want to punch Nasri, but if I were his manager I wouldn't do something so abjectly stupid as what Bobby did for the one-millionth time. I'm sure all of those defending his penchant for criticizing players in the media would also surely enjoy seeing their own supervisors chastising them on SkySports, or wherever. That would surely motivate them to perform better, would it not?

 

[blueinsa]

how can an opinion be truth?

If it accurately describes what it is being referenced...

but it is just your opinion, an interesting opinion, but it isn't based on fact therefore has no relevance

would my opinion that the players love playing for Mancini and enjoy his management style have equal stature to yours?

however how my opinion is derived?

Whats with the sudden need for facts when its an opinion that doesn't blow smoke up Bobs arse?

Ive seen it used more and more recently by those wanting to stifle any debate on Bob and frankly its ridiculous.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Lost in translation!

 

[nijinskybell]

You don't really believe that do you?

"Its just Italian" pmsl

It's an English journo putting his spin on a Mancini "joke", nothing more, nothing less.

The BBC gossip column says "Mancini joked"...

Do you really, honestly believe that he literally wanted to punch Nasri? Pmsl, as you seem to be fond of saying.

Well, sometimes I want to punch Nasri, but if I were his manager I wouldn't do something so abjectly stupid as what Bobby did for the one-millionth time. I'm sure all of those defending his penchant for criticizing players in the media would also surely enjoy seeing their own supervisors chastising them on SkySports, or wherever. That would surely motivate them to perform better, would it not?

Motivation varies from person to person. I trust Mancini to do it his way, for each individual. None of us know what has been said privately about this.

 

[Blue Heaven]

how can an opinion be truth?

If it accurately describes what it is being referenced...

but it is just your opinion, an interesting opinion, but it isn't based on fact therefore has no relevance

would my opinion that the players love playing for Mancini and enjoy his management style have equal stature to yours?

however how my opinion is derived?

It's not a question of the relative 'stature' of opinions, but rather it is simply down to whether any particular opinion is an accurate description of what it is intended to describe.

You opine that truth is 'based on fact' but what is 'fact' if not an accurate representation of something? Which brings us right back to my original answer.

-- Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:22 am --

how can an opinion be truth?

If it accurately describes what it is being referenced...

Ok,I'll humour you awhile longer,seeing as it's a slow bank holiday Monday.
How can your prediction that Mancini will be gone soon be validated with the actual evidence and facts that would render it true,rather than pure,baseless speculation?

Deary me, have we run out of windmills already? Or did trusty Sancho forget to bring your lance?

And for the record, my "prediction" will be validated at season's end, when Bobby is sacked. I should think that would have been rather obvious!<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:24 am --<br /><br />

It's an English journo putting his spin on a Mancini "joke", nothing more, nothing less.

The BBC gossip column says "Mancini joked"...

Do you really, honestly believe that he literally wanted to punch Nasri? Pmsl, as you seem to be fond of saying.

Well, sometimes I want to punch Nasri, but if I were his manager I wouldn't do something so abjectly stupid as what Bobby did for the one-millionth time. I'm sure all of those defending his penchant for criticizing players in the media would also surely enjoy seeing their own supervisors chastising them on SkySports, or wherever. That would surely motivate them to perform better, would it not?

Motivation varies from person to person. I trust Mancini to do it his way, for each individual. None of us know what has been said privately about this.

No, but thanks to Bobby, everyone on the planet knows what has been said publicly about this.

 

[nijinskybell]

If it accurately describes what it is being referenced...

but it is just your opinion, an interesting opinion, but it isn't based on fact therefore has no relevance

would my opinion that the players love playing for Mancini and enjoy his management style have equal stature to yours?

however how my opinion is derived?

It's not a question of the relative 'stature' of opinions, but rather it is simply down to whether any particular opinion is an accurate description of what it is intended to describe.

You opine that truth is 'based on fact' but what is 'fact' if not an accurate representation of something? Which brings us right back to my original answer.

-- Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:22 am --

If it accurately describes what it is being referenced...

Ok,I'll humour you awhile longer,seeing as it's a slow bank holiday Monday.
How can your prediction that Mancini will be gone soon be validated with the actual evidence and facts that would render it true,rather than pure,baseless speculation?

Deary me, have we run out of windmills already? Or did trusty Sancho forget to bring your lance?

And for the record, my "prediction" will be validated at season's end, when Bobby is sacked. I should think that would have been rather obvious!

-- Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:24 am --

Well, sometimes I want to punch Nasri, but if I were his manager I wouldn't do something so abjectly stupid as what Bobby did for the one-millionth time. I'm sure all of those defending his penchant for criticizing players in the media would also surely enjoy seeing their own supervisors chastising them on SkySports, or wherever. That would surely motivate them to perform better, would it not?

Motivation varies from person to person. I trust Mancini to do it his way, for each individual. None of us know what has been said privately about this.

No, but thanks to Bobby, everyone on the planet knows what has been said publicly about this.

And maybe that's what was eventually needed? He criticised him, Samir played well, he said why did I have to do that - I know he has the talent but he's so frustrating. We simply don't know what had been tried behind the scenes prior to the initial public criticism.

 

[squirtyflower]

If it accurately describes what it is being referenced...

but it is just your opinion, an interesting opinion, but it isn't based on fact therefore has no relevance

would my opinion that the players love playing for Mancini and enjoy his management style have equal stature to yours?

however how my opinion is derived?

Whats with the sudden need for facts when its an opinion that doesn't blow smoke up Bobs arse?

Ive seen it used more and more recently by those wanting to stifle any debate on Bob and frankly its ridiculous.

i haven't asked for facts
I just pointing out that an opinion is just that, an opinion
there's nothing wrong with opinions, we all have them, and there's many been effused on this thread

however it is disingenuous to state opinion as fact, or to base future happenings on opinions, it becomes speculation and should be treated as such

so in answer to your seemingly angry
Whats with the sudden need for facts when its an opinion that doesn't blow smoke up Bobs arse?

Ive seen it used more and more recently by those wanting to stifle any debate on Bob and frankly its ridiculous
I have neither:
a) blown smoke up bob's arse, ever
b) tried to stifle debate

yesterday several of you complained that the thread was put in the transfer forum, it's baseless facts and speculation that got it there in the first place

therefore i think, in my opinion, i'm entitled to pint out speculation and opinion peddled as facts