Mansour happy even if City don't win league title....

peoffrey said:
zeven said:
peoffrey said:
No it isn't. If you accept everything regardless of the outcome then you're going to become complacent. Our Champions League campaign this season wasn't good enough, neither domestic Cup has been won (an out of form Liverpool might win both), we threw away a 5 point lead in the Premiership, had a player refuse to warm up and had another been unable to resist his aggressive playing style despite chance after chance.

Mancini has lots to improve on next season. I'd be disturbed if he didn't agree that we can improve. Deeply disturbed.

Nice try, to take this short line out of context.

in any other year we would go to the latter stages with the 10 points we got.

Look as a team we have progressed every year. its not our divine right to win the title this year. and the players are equally to blame if we dont.

Progression is joint 2nd (their words) to outright 2nd? Not for me. And we won a trophy last season! Will be lift one this time round? If not then... I'll be back.

Champions League - Didn't qualify from the group
FA Cup - Knocked out in the 3rd round
Carling Cup - Easy run until the Semi's and then a no show at home to Liverpool

Not good enough!!!

Champions League - went out with 10 points which is highly irregular
FA Cup - Kompany wrongly sent off after about 10 minutes
Carling Cup - bin dippers wrongly awarded penalty in the 2nd leg.
 
Chungo said:
peoffrey said:
Progression is joint 2nd (their words) to outright 2nd? Not for me. And we won a trophy last season! Will be lift one this time round? If not then... I'll be back.

Champions League - Didn't qualify from the group
FA Cup - Knocked out in the 3rd round
Carling Cup - Easy run until the Semi's and then a no show at home to Liverpool

Not good enough!!!

Champions League - went out with 10 points which is highly irregular
FA Cup - Kompany wrongly sent off after about 10 minutes
Carling Cup - bin dippers wrongly awarded penalty in the 2nd leg.

Referees! Referees! Referees! It's like Neil Warnock is managing us.
 
peoffrey said:
Chungo said:
peoffrey said:
Progression is joint 2nd (their words) to outright 2nd? Not for me. And we won a trophy last season! Will be lift one this time round? If not then... I'll be back.

Champions League - Didn't qualify from the group
FA Cup - Knocked out in the 3rd round
Carling Cup - Easy run until the Semi's and then a no show at home to Liverpool

Not good enough!!!

Champions League - went out with 10 points which is highly irregular
FA Cup - Kompany wrongly sent off after about 10 minutes
Carling Cup - bin dippers wrongly awarded penalty in the 2nd leg.

Referees! Referees! Referees! It's like Neil Warnock is managing us.


haha Just sayin like...
 
Right guys, I've gone back to put some extra detail in and realised I made a few errors so I've corrected it below:

Mancini(City):

2011/12(brackets indicated the interval in which we went behind, in the case of games where we went behind more than once, the first time we went behind is used):

(0-15):3 W:1 D:0 L:2
(15-30):4 W:3 D:0 L:1
(30-45):3 W:1 D:1 L:1
(45-60):2 W:0 D:1 L:1
(60-75):3 W:1 D:1 L:1
(75-90):5 W:0 D:0 L:5

Total:20 W:6 D:3 L:11.

Overall:
(0-15):9 W:2 D:3 L:4(22.2%/55.5%)
(15-30):11 W:5 D:2 L:4(45.5%/63.6%)
(30-45):10 W:2 D:2 L:6(20%/40%)
(45-60):6 W:0 D:2 L:4(0%/33.3%)
(60-75):5 W:1 D:2 L:2(20%/60%)
(75-90):10 W:0 D:0 L:10(0%/0%)

Total:51 W:10 D:11 L:30(19.6%/41.2%).

Like I said apologies for the mistakes first time around. The percentages on the right, the left hand won is games won from behind, the one on the right is game not lost from behind.

Mourinho(Chelsea):

(0-15):17 W:9 D:4 L:4(52.9%/76.5%)
(15-30):11 W:2 D:5 L:4(18.2%/63.6%)
(30-45):11 W:4 D:5 L:2(36.4%/81.8%)
(45-60):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)
(60-75):1 W:0 D:1 L:0(0%/100%)
(75-90):7 W:0 D:2 L:5(0%/28.6%)

Total:51 W:15 D:18 L:18(29.4%/64.7%).

Ferguson(2011/12):
(0-15):1 W:0 D:1 L:0(0%/100%)
(15-30):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)
(30-45):4 W:1 D:2 L:1(25%/75%)
(45-60):1 W:0 D:0 L:1(0%/100%)
(60-75):3 W:0 D:1 L:2(0%/33.3%)
(75-90):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)

Total:17 W:1 D:6 L:10(5.8%/41.2%)

Overall:
(0-15):13 W:7 D:5 L:1(53.8%/92.3%)
(15-30):20 W:4 D:5 L:11(20%/45%)
(30-45):15 W:3 D:6 L:6(20%/60%)
(45-60):5 W:3 D:0 L:2(60%/60%)
(60-75):6 W:0 D:2 L:4(0%/33.3%)
(75-90):9 W:0 D:1 L:8(0%/11.1%)

Total:68 W:17 D:19 L:32(25%/52.9%)

So in percentage stats:

Wins from being behind(0-15):

Ferguson-53.8%.
Mourinho-52.9%.
Mancini-22.2%.

Not Losing from being behind(0-15):

Ferguson-92.3%.
Mourinho-76.5%.
Mancini-55.5%.

Wins from being behind(15-30):

Mancini-45.5%.
Ferguson-20%.
Mourinho-18.2%.

Not Losing from being behind(15-30):

Mancini-63.6%
Mourinho-63.6%
Ferguson-45%.

Wins from being behind(30-45):

Mourinho-36.4%.
Mancini-20%.
Ferguson-20%.

Not Losing from being behind(30-45):

Mourinho-81.8%.
Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-40%.

Wins from being behind at some point in the first half:

Mourinho-38.5%.
Mancini-30%.
Ferguson-29.2%.

Not Losing from being behind at some point in the first half:

Mourinho-74.4%.
Ferguson-62.5%.
Mancini-53.3%.

Wins from being behind(45-60):

Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-0%.
Mourinho-0%.

Not Losing from being behind(45-60):

Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-33.3%
Mourinho-25%.

Wins from being behind(60-75):

Mancini-20%.
Mourinho-0%.
Ferguson-0%.

Not Losing from being behind(60-75):

Mourinho-100%.
Mancini-60%.
Ferguson-33.3%.

Wins from being behind(75-90):

0% for all.

Not Losing from being behind(75-90):

Mourinho-28.6%.
Ferguson-11.1%.
Mancini-0%.

Number of times behind in 1st half of individual total:

Mourinho-76.5%.
Ferguson-70.6%.
Mancini-58.8%.

so to sum up:

Games won from behind:

Mourinho-29.4%.
Ferguson-25%.
Mancini-19.6%.

Games not lost from behind:

Mourinho-64.7%.
Ferguson-52.9%.
Mancini-41.2%.
 
peoffrey said:
Chungo said:
peoffrey said:
Progression is joint 2nd (their words) to outright 2nd? Not for me. And we won a trophy last season! Will be lift one this time round? If not then... I'll be back.

Champions League - Didn't qualify from the group
FA Cup - Knocked out in the 3rd round
Carling Cup - Easy run until the Semi's and then a no show at home to Liverpool

Not good enough!!!

Champions League - went out with 10 points which is highly irregular
FA Cup - Kompany wrongly sent off after about 10 minutes
Carling Cup - bin dippers wrongly awarded penalty in the 2nd leg.

Referees! Referees! Referees! It's like Neil Warnock is managing us.
In your opinion do you not think the ref cost us the chance of beating untied?
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Right guys, I've gone back to put some extra detail in and realised I made a few errors so I've corrected it below:

Mancini(City):

2011/12(brackets indicated the interval in which we went behind, in the case of games where we went behind more than once, the first time we went behind is used):

(0-15):3 W:1 D:0 L:2
(15-30):4 W:3 D:0 L:1
(30-45):3 W:1 D:1 L:1
(45-60):2 W:0 D:1 L:1
(60-75):3 W:1 D:1 L:1
(75-90):5 W:0 D:0 L:5

Total:20 W:6 D:3 L:11.

Overall:
(0-15):9 W:2 D:3 L:4(22.2%/55.5%)
(15-30):11 W:5 D:2 L:4(45.5%/63.6%)
(30-45):10 W:2 D:2 L:6(20%/40%)
(45-60):6 W:0 D:2 L:4(0%/33.3%)
(60-75):5 W:1 D:2 L:2(20%/60%)
(75-90):10 W:0 D:0 L:10(0%/0%)

Total:51 W:10 D:11 L:30(19.6%/41.2%).

Like I said apologies for the mistakes first time around. The percentages on the right, the left hand won is games won from behind, the one on the right is game not lost from behind.

Mourinho(Chelsea):

(0-15):17 W:9 D:4 L:4(52.9%/76.5%)
(15-30):11 W:2 D:5 L:4(18.2%/63.6%)
(30-45):11 W:4 D:5 L:2(36.4%/81.8%)
(45-60):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)
(60-75):1 W:0 D:1 L:0(0%/100%)
(75-90):7 W:0 D:2 L:5(0%/28.6%)

Total:51 W:15 D:18 L:18(29.4%/64.7%).

Ferguson(2011/12):
(0-15):1 W:0 D:1 L:0(0%/100%)
(15-30):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)
(30-45):4 W:1 D:2 L:1(25%/75%)
(45-60):1 W:0 D:0 L:1(0%/100%)
(60-75):3 W:0 D:1 L:2(0%/33.3%)
(75-90):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)

Total:17 W:1 D:6 L:10(5.8%/41.2%)

Overall:
(0-15):13 W:7 D:5 L:1(53.8%/92.3%)
(15-30):20 W:4 D:5 L:11(20%/45%)
(30-45):15 W:3 D:6 L:6(20%/60%)
(45-60):5 W:3 D:0 L:2(60%/60%)
(60-75):6 W:0 D:2 L:4(0%/33.3%)
(75-90):9 W:0 D:1 L:8(0%/11.1%)

Total:68 W:17 D:19 L:32(25%/52.9%)

So in percentage stats:

Wins from being behind(0-15):

Ferguson-53.8%.
Mourinho-52.9%.
Mancini-22.2%.

Not Losing from being behind(0-15):

Ferguson-92.3%.
Mourinho-76.5%.
Mancini-55.5%.

Wins from being behind(15-30):

Mancini-45.5%.
Ferguson-20%.
Mourinho-18.2%.

Not Losing from being behind(15-30):

Mancini-63.6%
Mourinho-63.6%
Ferguson-45%.

Wins from being behind(30-45):

Mourinho-36.4%.
Mancini-20%.
Ferguson-20%.

Not Losing from being behind(30-45):

Mourinho-81.8%.
Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-40%.

Wins from being behind at some point in the first half:

Mourinho-38.5%.
Mancini-30%.
Ferguson-29.2%.

Not Losing from being behind at some point in the first half:

Mourinho-74.4%.
Ferguson-62.5%.
Mancini-53.3%.

Wins from being behind(45-60):

Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-0%.
Mourinho-0%.

Not Losing from being behind(45-60):

Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-33.3%
Mourinho-25%.

Wins from being behind(60-75):

Mancini-20%.
Mourinho-0%.
Ferguson-0%.

Not Losing from being behind(60-75):

Mourinho-100%.
Mancini-60%.
Ferguson-33.3%.

Wins from being behind(75-90):

0% for all.

Not Losing from being behind(75-90):

Mourinho-28.6%.
Ferguson-11.1%.
Mancini-0%.

Number of times behind in 1st half of individual total:

Mourinho-76.5%.
Ferguson-70.6%.
Mancini-58.8%.

so to sum up:

Games won from behind:

Mourinho-29.4%.
Ferguson-25%.
Mancini-19.6%.

Games not lost from behind:

Mourinho-64.7%.
Ferguson-52.9%.
Mancini-41.2%.

Fucks sake. Wheres the enjoyment.
 
Lucky13 said:
City Raider said:
twinkletoes said:
Who are these fans that think that? Do they even exist?

I think he's trying to say you're small minded and can't possibly begin to appreciate the complexities of boardroom power if you don't want Mancini out :)

And the Winner of Condescending Post of the Year goes to Dismal Dave.
1st second and third to didsburys dickhead ,its become really tiring now Dave ,your OBVIOUSLY cleverer than most of us but lets get one thing straight your fucking wrong and the cleverest people in the world can sometimes acknowledge they are wrong .You quite clearly can't .
Give it a rest your fucking tiresome , god knows how your "mates" put up with you at the match , you'd find fault in a Carlsberg knocking shop
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Right guys, I've gone back to put some extra detail in and realised I made a few errors so I've corrected it below:

Mancini(City):

2011/12(brackets indicated the interval in which we went behind, in the case of games where we went behind more than once, the first time we went behind is used):

(0-15):3 W:1 D:0 L:2
(15-30):4 W:3 D:0 L:1
(30-45):3 W:1 D:1 L:1
(45-60):2 W:0 D:1 L:1
(60-75):3 W:1 D:1 L:1
(75-90):5 W:0 D:0 L:5

Total:20 W:6 D:3 L:11.

Overall:
(0-15):9 W:2 D:3 L:4(22.2%/55.5%)
(15-30):11 W:5 D:2 L:4(45.5%/63.6%)
(30-45):10 W:2 D:2 L:6(20%/40%)
(45-60):6 W:0 D:2 L:4(0%/33.3%)
(60-75):5 W:1 D:2 L:2(20%/60%)
(75-90):10 W:0 D:0 L:10(0%/0%)

Total:51 W:10 D:11 L:30(19.6%/41.2%).

Like I said apologies for the mistakes first time around. The percentages on the right, the left hand won is games won from behind, the one on the right is game not lost from behind.

Mourinho(Chelsea):

(0-15):17 W:9 D:4 L:4(52.9%/76.5%)
(15-30):11 W:2 D:5 L:4(18.2%/63.6%)
(30-45):11 W:4 D:5 L:2(36.4%/81.8%)
(45-60):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)
(60-75):1 W:0 D:1 L:0(0%/100%)
(75-90):7 W:0 D:2 L:5(0%/28.6%)

Total:51 W:15 D:18 L:18(29.4%/64.7%).

Ferguson(2011/12):
(0-15):1 W:0 D:1 L:0(0%/100%)
(15-30):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)
(30-45):4 W:1 D:2 L:1(25%/75%)
(45-60):1 W:0 D:0 L:1(0%/100%)
(60-75):3 W:0 D:1 L:2(0%/33.3%)
(75-90):4 W:0 D:1 L:3(0%/25%)

Total:17 W:1 D:6 L:10(5.8%/41.2%)

Overall:
(0-15):13 W:7 D:5 L:1(53.8%/92.3%)
(15-30):20 W:4 D:5 L:11(20%/45%)
(30-45):15 W:3 D:6 L:6(20%/60%)
(45-60):5 W:3 D:0 L:2(60%/60%)
(60-75):6 W:0 D:2 L:4(0%/33.3%)
(75-90):9 W:0 D:1 L:8(0%/11.1%)

Total:68 W:17 D:19 L:32(25%/52.9%)

So in percentage stats:

Wins from being behind(0-15):

Ferguson-53.8%.
Mourinho-52.9%.
Mancini-22.2%.

Not Losing from being behind(0-15):

Ferguson-92.3%.
Mourinho-76.5%.
Mancini-55.5%.

Wins from being behind(15-30):

Mancini-45.5%.
Ferguson-20%.
Mourinho-18.2%.

Not Losing from being behind(15-30):

Mancini-63.6%
Mourinho-63.6%
Ferguson-45%.

Wins from being behind(30-45):

Mourinho-36.4%.
Mancini-20%.
Ferguson-20%.

Not Losing from being behind(30-45):

Mourinho-81.8%.
Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-40%.

Wins from being behind at some point in the first half:

Mourinho-38.5%.
Mancini-30%.
Ferguson-29.2%.

Not Losing from being behind at some point in the first half:

Mourinho-74.4%.
Ferguson-62.5%.
Mancini-53.3%.

Wins from being behind(45-60):

Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-0%.
Mourinho-0%.

Not Losing from being behind(45-60):

Ferguson-60%.
Mancini-33.3%
Mourinho-25%.

Wins from being behind(60-75):

Mancini-20%.
Mourinho-0%.
Ferguson-0%.

Not Losing from being behind(60-75):

Mourinho-100%.
Mancini-60%.
Ferguson-33.3%.

Wins from being behind(75-90):

0% for all.

Not Losing from being behind(75-90):

Mourinho-28.6%.
Ferguson-11.1%.
Mancini-0%.

Number of times behind in 1st half of individual total:

Mourinho-76.5%.
Ferguson-70.6%.
Mancini-58.8%.

so to sum up:

Games won from behind:

Mourinho-29.4%.
Ferguson-25%.
Mancini-19.6%.

Games not lost from behind:

Mourinho-64.7%.
Ferguson-52.9%.
Mancini-41.2%.

Thanks a lot . A clearer picture when excluding losses after going behind after the 75th minute
 
Didsbury Dave said:
twinkletoes said:
wireblue said:
This thread looks pathetic – really childish. I cringe at the attitude of some that people are somehow stuck in the past with little city syndrome if they want mancini to stay. Fans invest a lot of emotion into the club and for all mancini’s faults people like him and they like him being city’s manager – that is very important to many people and they shouldn’t be belittled. It’s not just about stats and facts for fans – if it was people would spend Saturday afternoon browsing the stock exchange instead of going to the match.
The board will no doubt see things much more analytically and make the decision they see fit – and the fans that back mancini will be fine with it and they will back the next manager. I’m sure some will say that’s blind faith/blue tinted specs/Liverpool-itis. It’s not it’s just about wanting the man in charge to be successful.
It’s fine for people to think mancini should be kept/sacked but some of the comments from both sides of the fence in this thread are pretty embarrassing. It’s not about being proved right or wrong. We’re all city fans – just have a civilised debate.
It’s not about YOU it’s about CITY


I think you are actually having a go at Dismal but you're being diplomatic.

That's the Dismal who the thread was full of comments like "Haha wait till Dickhead Dave sees this" and "Suicide from DD then" and the likes?

People can reap what they sew I'm afraid. I'm here and I'm going nowhere. That's why the thread's become about "me". People love the thread to be about me, that's the truth.

Having a bogey man makes people feel better.


Are you didactic?
 

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