Blueles61 said:Was sat on the next table to Pellegrini last night at Piccolinos in Hale. He ate alone, and looked a little lost.
Strange thing is Ruben Cousillas was sat upstairs eating with others.
Blueles61 said:Was sat on the next table to Pellegrini last night at Piccolinos in Hale. He ate alone, and looked a little lost.
Strange thing is Ruben Cousillas was sat upstairs eating with others.
shemnel said:when do blips become trends become the norm?
i have great sympathy for Pellegrini in that he is sitting on a team/squad that ruthlessly ripped teams apart last season, so you can see why wants to play the same way.
my point is, you cant simply chop and change tactics and players every time you dont win with it. the players wont have a clue where they're at and everything will fall apart. we have to be careful to not become knee-jerk reactionaries. having said that, i still think 4-4-2 yesterday was wrong!
To trash his achievement of winning our first ever domestic league and cup double in the hardest league in the world is not on. Just listen to you ,you're doing the media's job better than they could in saying Chelsea did us a favour. It's over 38 games mate and if you remember we could have easily drawn or even won the away game at Liverpool with a kinder rub of the green and the ref doing his job properly. But anyway why should I have to defend WINNING a title.pikku said:He is just not good enough at the top level, i know every body will point out the double last season, but the title win was made easier because Chelsea defeated Liverpool at ainfield, and ofcourse we did well do win our remaining games, still i am not convinced at all by Pellegrini. Everybody can see the fact that going with 5 in the midfield is the way forward, but still this guy doesn't care to budge from his 4-4-2 formation which isn't doing any favours for our players either. Yaya is not suited to play in a 2 man mf, it is identified by all and sundry except for our manager, play him ahead with fernando and fernandinho covering for him and we will look ruthless going forward along with more composure in the midfield, when is he going to learn eh?? Even against United if this guy is going to understimate them and persist with the two uptop bullshit ,i for one want him out by the end of this season, also not to forget our failure in the uefa league, it is purely down to his tactical ineptness.
FantasyIreland said:Mister Appointment said:FantasyIreland said:Pellegrini seems determined to try and fit square pegs in round holes,it doesn't make sense and its no wonder,when his players are probably thinking similar to us supporters.....that they are showing signs of discontentment.
Don't agree with that at all. Ridiculous to suggest that playing a central midfield player (Yaya) in central midfield, or a winger (Navas) as a winger, or two forwards as forwards, is square pegs in round holes.
As for the players showing signs of discontent - if they were I'm sure it was at nothing more than their own very average performances in the last 7 days, and also at the number of chances they created and squandered.
By that statement,I meant playing 11 individuals,and not 11 players that make the best 'team'.Why he keeps persevering with Aguero and Dzeko is bizarre,especially when its so damaging to our seasons ambitions.
The discontentment I refer to can be translated to frustration at such tactics.I know if I was a player and I could see that things could be improved upon and yet the boss wasn't doing so,as a winner.....i'd be going mental.
OB1 said:shemnel said:when do blips become trends become the norm?
i have great sympathy for Pellegrini in that he is sitting on a team/squad that ruthlessly ripped teams apart last season, so you can see why wants to play the same way.
my point is, you cant simply chop and change tactics and players every time you dont win with it. the players wont have a clue where they're at and everything will fall apart. we have to be careful to not become knee-jerk reactionaries. having said that, i still think 4-4-2 yesterday was wrong![/quot
That's a good question and it is hard to predict the answer but I do not believe we have reached the point yet; some will disagree. I don't think our form has been particularly good this season but it has not been especially bad either. We have had some bad results; especially in the last week.
The question of whether we should play one upfront or two has been around for most of Pellegrini's reign. The answer to that get confused by some who think that when Silva plays as a number 10, we have gone to 4-5-1: we almost always have not. You could make a case for it being 4-4-1-1 what we almost always have when a midfielder is pushed forward (be it Yaya, Silva, Nasri...) is a midfielder pushed forward; the basic shape of the side does not change but the nature of the personnel in the support striker role does change things: Dzeko and Silva for instance are very different players. However, in some games this season, we have seen section of games with Dzeko pretty much playing in midfield. That is because Pellegrini is not as tactically inflexible as some would portray him.
I have said before that the idea that there is this mass of people in the stands that can see something blindingly obvious that Pellegrini cannot see is specious. Do people also think that Txiki, Marwood, Ferran, Kiddo etc are afflicted by the same blindness as Pellegrini and are too in awe of him not to say something? Do people not think that the club knows what its supporters are saying on this forum and others and in the media?
Pellegrini knows there are different ways to do things and ultimately, he may have to evolve his approach but he is not going to rush into it. He has used 4-2-3-1 formations at previous clubs but, IIRC, he views that as an approach when playing technically superior opposition, which is not something that happens often to this City side. If I were him, I would go to that shape. That does cause an issue of where to place Yaya in the line-up because I still believe we have to start him. However, I would prioritize clean sheets for the moment and give the defence some extra protection through the use of two holding midfielders.
BTW, I don't think 4-4-2 was the issue yesterday.