Mark Clattenburg

[CatMan]

There seems to be general shift, that was certainly evident in the World Cup, by Referees to avoid blowing up too quickly and letting play develop. The only problem with this however is that it can then move quickly into the next phase of play and things turn against the team that perhaps was suffering the initial infringement that the referee considered not too serious to blow up.

I think that this happened twice against us yesterday. First Aguero was being nibbled at but still appeared to be control. The ball then ran away from him and Aguero then pulled up wanting to complain (rightly or wrongly so) whilst play quickly turned against City. Now with the hindsight of knowing City would concede almost immediately I am sure he would have called the initial foul.

Believe me, as a Referee myself, your priority is to avoid making calls that lead to controversy. In short it's easier to blow up at any infringement during an attack than it is to let play wrongly develop only to then get it in the neck from the defending team who concede a controversial goal. Yesterday Clattenburg got it wrong because he never saw the potential for play to switch and City concede.

The push on Kompany again would have not been even noticed if 2 touches later the ball wasn't sailing into our net!

These things happen in fast moving sport and I don't for one moment consider Clattenburg a cheat although his courting of player popularity and daft haircuts do annoy me.

Time to move on and not slip into the oppressed moaning mode we have witnessed for years with Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson. Slightly disappointed Pellegrini got drawn in to discussing it as his cool head has been part of his appeal to date.

 

[SuperSilva]

There seems to be general shift, that was certainly evident in the World Cup, by Referees to avoid blowing up too quickly and letting play develop. The only problem with this however is that it can then move quickly into the next phase of play and things turn against the team that perhaps was suffering the initial infringement that the referee considered not too serious to blow up.

I think that this happened twice against us yesterday. First Aguero was being nibbled at but still appeared to be control. The ball then ran away from him and Aguero then pulled up wanting to complain (rightly or wrongly so) whilst play quickly turned against City. Now with the hindsight of knowing City would concede almost immediately I am sure he would have called the initial foul.

Believe me, as a Referee myself, your priority is to avoid making calls that lead to controversy. In short it's easier to blow up at any infringement during an attack than it is to let play wrongly develop only to then get it in the neck from the defending team who concede a controversial goal. Yesterday Clattenburg got it wrong because he never saw the potential for play to switch and City concede.

The push on Kompany again would have not been even noticed if 2 touches later the ball wasn't sailing into our net!

These things happen in fast moving sport and I don't for one moment consider Clattenburg a cheat although his courting of player popularity and daft haircuts do annoy me.

Time to move on and not slip into the oppressed moaning mode we have witnessed for years with Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson. Slightly disappointed Pellegrini got drawn in to discussing it as his cool head has been part of his appeal to date.

what the f*ck kind of answer is that..?

Your "Time to move on and not slip into the oppressed moaning mode..." statement is the reason why Blatter is now trialing replay/challenges for managers in 2015.

TV replays and slowing down plays with virtual camera movements proving the referee's/linesman's view was NOT obstructed is taking precedence in the game and when this happens Referees MUST start to get more of their calls correct and as you said, ABSOLUTELY avoid controversial goals/calls...

Today's referees, especially the likes of Klattenburg have brought this upon themselves and it is this "move on" attitude which pisses many fans off.

We play very fair football, we don't systematically foul like Winger said, we try to tackle the ball (should we just stand there gormless and let the player run past us?) and if we fail it is called a foul ... simple, however Klattenburg and many other referees continue to make wrong, PIVOTAL, decisions which influence the direction of millions of ££££ in modern football.

Hence we need to stop with the move on shit and improve ref training/increase their policing and give punishments for consistent mistakes and introduce Replays/Challenges, which will really make refs a) look like the f*cking clowns when they are wrong, b) force to improve their skills as refs to avoid the piss take and protection they receive from the FA/Refs association ... whatever they are f*cking called and c) make them look top notch and fair when they make the right calls...

 

[Bill]

There seems to be general shift, that was certainly evident in the World Cup, by Referees to avoid blowing up too quickly and letting play develop. The only problem with this however is that it can then move quickly into the next phase of play and things turn against the team that perhaps was suffering the initial infringement that the referee considered not too serious to blow up.

I think that this happened twice against us yesterday. First Aguero was being nibbled at but still appeared to be control. The ball then ran away from him and Aguero then pulled up wanting to complain (rightly or wrongly so) whilst play quickly turned against City. Now with the hindsight of knowing City would concede almost immediately I am sure he would have called the initial foul.

Believe me, as a Referee myself, your priority is to avoid making calls that lead to controversy. In short it's easier to blow up at any infringement during an attack than it is to let play wrongly develop only to then get it in the neck from the defending team who concede a controversial goal. Yesterday Clattenburg got it wrong because he never saw the potential for play to switch and City concede.

The push on Kompany again would have not been even noticed if 2 touches later the ball wasn't sailing into our net!

These things happen in fast moving sport and I don't for one moment consider Clattenburg a cheat although his courting of player popularity and daft haircuts do annoy me.

Time to move on and not slip into the oppressed moaning mode we have witnessed for years with Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson. Slightly disappointed Pellegrini got drawn in to discussing it as his cool head has been part of his appeal to date.

not so, i called foul the second they collided, as i did on aguero. i was 50 yards away in the stand and it was as clear as day.this ref is a cheat, not poor, not a homer, a cheat. always has been.

 

[BL2blue]

What gets me is that despite his history of very dodgy decisions in big games, he continually gets picked for them.

It's almost as if he's following some sort of orders....

 

[Barcon]

I actually couldn't believe the one on Aguero went unpunished and the yellow card on Zabaletta was a fucking joke.
I saw the pillock running around with his arms outstretched as if to say, "play the advantage", and I said "what the fuck is this **** doing now"? "He's going to go back and give Pablo a yellow". The exact same foul that that big headed dwarf commited and didn't concede a free kick for. And whilst we're at it, why wasn't the dwarf yellow carded for his fucking dive near the beginning of the game? Fuck me, I was all but over this **** until some clown came on here and defended him.

 

[80s Shorts]

There seems to be general shift, that was certainly evident in the World Cup, by Referees to avoid blowing up too quickly and letting play develop. The only problem with this however is that it can then move quickly into the next phase of play and things turn against the team that perhaps was suffering the initial infringement that the referee considered not too serious to blow up.

I think that this happened twice against us yesterday. First Aguero was being nibbled at but still appeared to be control. The ball then ran away from him and Aguero then pulled up wanting to complain (rightly or wrongly so) whilst play quickly turned against City. Now with the hindsight of knowing City would concede almost immediately I am sure he would have called the initial foul.

Believe me, as a Referee myself, your priority is to avoid making calls that lead to controversy. In short it's easier to blow up at any infringement during an attack than it is to let play wrongly develop only to then get it in the neck from the defending team who concede a controversial goal. Yesterday Clattenburg got it wrong because he never saw the potential for play to switch and City concede.

The push on Kompany again would have not been even noticed if 2 touches later the ball wasn't sailing into our net!

These things happen in fast moving sport and I don't for one moment consider Clattenburg a cheat although his courting of player popularity and daft haircuts do annoy me.

Time to move on and not slip into the oppressed moaning mode we have witnessed for years with Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson. Slightly disappointed Pellegrini got drawn in to discussing it as his cool head has been part of his appeal to date.

Cannot agree with that at all. I was screaming foul as soon as it happened. How, as a referee you cannot see the importance of such a situation in the area of the pitch the incident occurred is somewhat baffling.

 

[jitsubluedan]

There seems to be general shift, that was certainly evident in the World Cup, by Referees to avoid blowing up too quickly and letting play develop. The only problem with this however is that it can then move quickly into the next phase of play and things turn against the team that perhaps was suffering the initial infringement that the referee considered not too serious to blow up.

I think that this happened twice against us yesterday. First Aguero was being nibbled at but still appeared to be control. The ball then ran away from him and Aguero then pulled up wanting to complain (rightly or wrongly so) whilst play quickly turned against City. Now with the hindsight of knowing City would concede almost immediately I am sure he would have called the initial foul.

Believe me, as a Referee myself, your priority is to avoid making calls that lead to controversy. In short it's easier to blow up at any infringement during an attack than it is to let play wrongly develop only to then get it in the neck from the defending team who concede a controversial goal. Yesterday Clattenburg got it wrong because he never saw the potential for play to switch and City concede.

The push on Kompany again would have not been even noticed if 2 touches later the ball wasn't sailing into our net!

These things happen in fast moving sport and I don't for one moment consider Clattenburg a cheat although his courting of player popularity and daft haircuts do annoy me.

Time to move on and not slip into the oppressed moaning mode we have witnessed for years with Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson. Slightly disappointed Pellegrini got drawn in to discussing it as his cool head has been part of his appeal to date.

Your point might have had some credence if his incompetent decisions had been evenly applied to both sides rather than just to City.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Might be an ignorant question, but arn't refs performances scrutinised by a governing body?

Hopefully by ISIS for this tosser.

 

[Jack Wills]

Refs might start thinking more about their decisions if they had to explain them to the press after the game, in the same way managers have to do interviews straight after, even after a bad defeat. Surely Lineker on MoTD or some Sky reporter could ask Clattenberg why didn't you give a pen when Wilshere handballed it, and show him the replay. Bent fucker would have to be fairer under that kind of scrutiny surely?

 

[shazzell]

Mrs Vienna has just shown me a picture on Facebook on Clattenbent and Wilshere from post-match yesterday, laughing with each other and so close, anyone would think they're lovers.

Wankers, the pair of them!

"you've scratched my back marky,so i'll scratch yours..."

"oh, jackie boy, STOP IT,you know i'm ticklelish there,i'll drop my man of the match ball."

 

[BlueBarratt]

There seems to be general shift, that was certainly evident in the World Cup, by Referees to avoid blowing up too quickly and letting play develop. The only problem with this however is that it can then move quickly into the next phase of play and things turn against the team that perhaps was suffering the initial infringement that the referee considered not too serious to blow up.

I think that this happened twice against us yesterday. First Aguero was being nibbled at but still appeared to be control. The ball then ran away from him and Aguero then pulled up wanting to complain (rightly or wrongly so) whilst play quickly turned against City. Now with the hindsight of knowing City would concede almost immediately I am sure he would have called the initial foul.

Believe me, as a Referee myself, your priority is to avoid making calls that lead to controversy. In short it's easier to blow up at any infringement during an attack than it is to let play wrongly develop only to then get it in the neck from the defending team who concede a controversial goal. Yesterday Clattenburg got it wrong because he never saw the potential for play to switch and City concede.

The push on Kompany again would have not been even noticed if 2 touches later the ball wasn't sailing into our net!

These things happen in fast moving sport and I don't for one moment consider Clattenburg a cheat although his courting of player popularity and daft haircuts do annoy me.

Time to move on and not slip into the oppressed moaning mode we have witnessed for years with Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson. Slightly disappointed Pellegrini got drawn in to discussing it as his cool head has been part of his appeal to date.

not so, i called foul the second they collided, as i did on aguero. i was 50 yards away in the stand and it was as clear as day.this ref is a cheat, not poor, not a homer, a cheat. always has been.

I called them too, and on the highlights you can actually see me with my arms out when welbeck pushed vinnie, and then going mad when they scored because it was a foul (I was by the corner flag, hemce why you can see me in the normal match footage)

 

[remember arthur mann]

What gets me is that despite his history of very dodgy decisions in big games, he continually gets picked for them.

It's almost as if he's following some sort of orders....

You're getting very warm !!!

 

[crazyg]

Might be an ignorant question, but arn't refs performances scrutinised by a governing body?

Yes. Mike fucking Riley and Howard fucking Webb!!!

 

[waspish]

What pisses me off is referees letting fouls like that on Aguero go but giving them 10 mins later either give them all or give none!

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

Clattencheat is the FAs go-to referee. Bent as fuck.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Most people with decent eyesight could see both fouls. Fucking Danny Murphy on MOTD says
"Shove on Kompany not enough to give a foul". FFS if it wasn't for the shove which put Kompany right
under the ball, then his header would most probably havecleared the 2 Arsenal midfielders waiting
on the edge of the area. As for Kun's how many times do you have to be pushed, nibbled at, to get a foul.

 

[baildon blue]

Clattencheat is the FAs go-to referee. Bent as fuck.

Expect a letter from the F.A Bert .
You can't be saying stuff like that about Mark .

 

[hgblue]

There seems to be general shift, that was certainly evident in the World Cup, by Referees to avoid blowing up too quickly and letting play develop. The only problem with this however is that it can then move quickly into the next phase of play and things turn against the team that perhaps was suffering the initial infringement that the referee considered not too serious to blow up.

I think that this happened twice against us yesterday. First Aguero was being nibbled at but still appeared to be control. The ball then ran away from him and Aguero then pulled up wanting to complain (rightly or wrongly so) whilst play quickly turned against City. Now with the hindsight of knowing City would concede almost immediately I am sure he would have called the initial foul.

Believe me, as a Referee myself, your priority is to avoid making calls that lead to controversy. In short it's easier to blow up at any infringement during an attack than it is to let play wrongly develop only to then get it in the neck from the defending team who concede a controversial goal. Yesterday Clattenburg got it wrong because he never saw the potential for play to switch and City concede.

The push on Kompany again would have not been even noticed if 2 touches later the ball wasn't sailing into our net!

These things happen in fast moving sport and I don't for one moment consider Clattenburg a cheat although his courting of player popularity and daft haircuts do annoy me.

Time to move on and not slip into the oppressed moaning mode we have witnessed for years with Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson. Slightly disappointed Pellegrini got drawn in to discussing it as his cool head has been part of his appeal to date.

Aguero was fouled at least twice. Ok, let him play on while he retains possession, but blow for the foul as soon as he loses the ball. Don't allow Arsenal to gain an advantage from fouling an opponent. It's stupidity like this from referees that encourages players to hit the deck at the slightest contact. Being honest and trying to stay on your feet works to your disadvantage because most referees are dullards who've never played the game. Stevie Wonder could see that Kompany was shoved by Wellbeck. This directly affected the direction and power of Kompany's clearance, which led directly to Arsenal's second goal. Both incidents were bleeding obvious.

 

[quiet_riot]

As for Kun's how many times do you have to be pushed, nibbled at, to get a foul.

Once, or half if your name is Jack Wilshere.

 

[rodders1973]

Just seen nasri disallowed goal against the arse, call me bias but can't see why it didn't stand. And to make it worse arsenal scored a goal not too dissimilar to rescue a point against Palace and that stood. Sort it out officials check the rules(3-2 to CITY for me).