Mark Hughes.... Did it seem right??

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

Weston Blue wrote:
Your really are a self-righteous wanker.


What the fuck are you on about... what a fool!

Back to school soon?

I am talking about the following.

1) Your constant sniping against Hughes. You are entitled to your opinion, but my point is we have heard it, noted it and either agree or disagree. We do not need you to point out that you started whining about Hughes in August.

2) Your banal comments about only posting in order to wind people up and that my post was bland. What did you want passion around the same point your have made loads of time before.

You don't like Hughes. Fine but we do not need you to say this again and again.

Finally I must thank you from the heart of my bottom for yor comments about school. You haver made an old man happy that i could have possible been mistaken for someone of a youthful disposition.

go on weston

 

[Weston Blue]

Weston Blue wrote:
The bottom line is we were crap in the second half of last season and we are pretty crap now. We had two different managers during these periods. We do however, have a similar group of players.

So you have not noticed that we have bought players for £80 million?

yes i did. I think that Kompany, SWP and Robinho have been our best players (with the exception of Ireland) all season. I do not however, think we get the ball to SWP and Robinho enough and our other failings need sorting ie more defensive strenght (in the middle and at the back) and a top notch scorer (but not the one who keeps posting stuff about Hughes!).

 

[svennis pennis]

Scorer. I think you have been on a witch hunt from day one. but you are right. I agree with you. I was never convinced by the appointment but was willing to see him get his chance. For me his chance is over. Beating West Brom in a relegation six pointer is what Sunday has come down to. It never should of got this far.

I am not convinced Hughes has the man management power to pull this lot around. There expectations on signing was the 'project.' I doubt in that manifesto it read.

Target one: Do not get relegated. All aboard lads?? No? Thought not.

Thats the specification now. Do not get fucking relegated!!!

As that has now become the brief I want Hughes out. He has no right to spend the money we have in January just so he can save his own neck. 20 million on Santa Cruz or 10 million to sack Hughes. I know which is the better deal and of longer benefit to MCFC.

Hahahahahaha! Another clown jumps on the bandwagon.

If Hughes is still in charge on Jan 1st 2009, he'll still be in charge Jan 1st 2010.

Oh, and Frank Rijkaard had a similar start to his Barca career...moronic Barca fans calling for his head in Dec of his first season in charge.

No. I have been against Hughes continuing with us for a couple of months now. He has done nothing in those months to convince me he should stay in charge.

In your eyes i'm a clown because i think the project has now become about not getting relegated to the championship. When did the brief change?

What have you seen from Hughes so far that suggests he can motivate our players and get them playing consistently?

He looks like a rabbit in the headlights.

 

[Anonymous]

Weston Blue wrote:
The bottom line is we were crap in the second half of last season and we are pretty crap now. We had two different managers during these periods. We do however, have a similar group of players.

So you have not noticed that we have bought players for £80 million?

yes i did. I think that Kompany, SWP and Robinho have been our best players (with the exception of Ireland) all season. I do not however, think we get the ball to SWP and Robinho enough and our other failings need sorting ie more defensive strenght (in the middle and at the back) and a top notch scorer (but not the one who keeps posting stuff about Hughes!).

I agree with all of that.

 

[Anonymous]

No. I have been against Hughes continuing with us for a couple of months now. He has done nothing in those months to convince me he should stay in charge.

If you wanted Hughes gone two months ago, then you were advocating sacking a manager after he'd been in charge for a dozen or so games. Makes you even more pathetic than I originally thought.

In your eyes i'm a clown because i think the project has now become about not getting relegated to the championship. When did the brief change?

Ha! No-one gets relegated in December. There's still half the season to go. I am pretty calm.

What have you seen from Hughes so far that suggests he can motivate our players and get them playing consistently?

City 6 Porsmouth 0. Sunderland 0 City 3. City 3 Stoke 0. City 3 Arsenal 0.

He looks like a rabbit in the headlights.

No he doesn't. He looks like a manager under pressure, which he is.

 

[svennis pennis]

No. I have been against Hughes continuing with us for a couple of months now. He has done nothing in those months to convince me he should stay in charge.

If you wanted Hughes gone two months ago, then you were advocating sacking a manager after he'd been in charge for a dozen or so games. Makes you even more pathetic than I originally thought.

In your eyes i'm a clown because i think the project has now become about not getting relegated to the championship. When did the brief change?

Ha! No-one gets relegated in December. There's still half the season to go. I am pretty calm.

What have you seen from Hughes so far that suggests he can motivate our players and get them playing consistently?

City 6 Porsmouth 0. Sunderland 0 City 3. City 3 Stoke 0. City 3 Arsenal 0.

He looks like a rabbit in the headlights.

No he doesn't. He looks like a manager under pressure, which he is.

The games he won were not consistent. They were separated by defeats and draws.

Look at the latest Hughes poll and you will se a majority in favor of him being sacked. That sentiment is echoed across plenty of other City boards.

Why is he under pressure? Because of the form we are in?

He looks confused at best tactically. He is on a hiding to no where. He is struggling to accommodate the flair players because it goes against the grain of his abilities as a manager and tactician. So what he wants is to produce a team of efficient work horses that will run through brick walls and hopefully bring him the results. Unfortunately our owners want to see us play with style. A trait which doesn't seem to be in Hughes vocabulary. At least on a consistent basis.

 

[Weston Blue]

The games he won were not consistent. They were separated by defeats and draws.

Look at the latest Hughes poll and you will se a majority in favor of him being sacked. That sentiment is echoed across plenty of other City boards.

Why is he under pressure? Because of the form we are in?

He looks confused at best tactically. He is on a hiding to no where. He is struggling to accommodate the flair players because it goes against the grain of his abilities as a manager and tactician. So what he wants is to produce a team of efficient work horses that will run through brick walls and hopefully bring him the results. Unfortunately our owners want to see us play with style. A trait which doesn't seem to be in Hughes vocabulary. At least on a consistent basis.

When was last time that any City manager produced consistency (in the positive sense). Proabably Keegan when we got promoted last time.

Yes, the poll is against him. Does this mean he should go? If a manager went eberytime a proportion of fanes got on his back few, would still be in jobs. Clearly people can be be antiHughes, but the Board make decisions based on what they think.

I think Billy Shears acknowlegded he was under pressure, but his point was he could cope with it.

Not sure his tactics are always right, but not sure they are always wrong. As psoted, I think we have a balance issue - we miss someone like Johnson to link the team (I think Elano has suffered greatly without him), need some CBs that can distribute the ball and get our good players more involved.

 

[Anonymous]

The games he won were not consistent. They were separated by defeats and draws.

Look at the latest Hughes poll and you will se a majority in favor of him being sacked. That sentiment is echoed across plenty of other City boards.

I think you'll find that messageboards are in no way a true reflection of what a club's majority supporter base thinks.

He looks confused at best tactically. He is on a hiding to no where. He is struggling to accommodate the flair players because it goes against the grain of his abilities as a manager and tactician. So what he wants is to produce a team of efficient work horses that will run through brick walls and hopefully bring him the results. Unfortunately our owners want to see us play with style. A trait which doesn't seem to be in Hughes vocabulary. At least on a consistent basis.

He has an unbalanced and underperforming first team squad who have a host of injuries and no real quality striker. I think you'll find he was on a hiding to nothing from the day ADUG bought the club and some of our supporters slowly began to morph into "i want it all, and i want it now" types...

The bias against MH is sickening. And very very tedious. Thankfully we seem to have owners who take a much more measured approach to hiring and firing than all the armchair experts on here...

 

[svennis pennis]

We're a little bit light on numbers at the moment. A number of the guys are carrying injuries, so that will have an impact, and that's difficult when you've got games coming up thick and fast you have to have a fit and able squad.

"At the moment we're just struggling a little bit in that respect. We've lost Benjani again at the weekend with a hamstring and he'll probably be out for a number of weeks. We're a bit threadbare in fairness, but we'll see."

As for the game itself, Hughes added: "We didn't quite have enough players playing at the top of their form for many mitigating reasons. It's very difficult to win Premier League games when you haven't got everybody at the top of their form."

Referring to City's pitiful points return, Hughes added: "Ideally we want more points on the board, that's a given, but what we have to do is make sure we pick up those points in the games that we have ahead of us.

"We're more than capable of doing that as we've proved this season. When we've played well people see we're a good side but on occasion when teams frustrate us we haven't had the answers and Saturday was another case in point.

"The team on Saturday was very close to the one that beat Portsmouth 6-0 so we need to understand that when the team doesn't perform collectively or individually then it's difficult to win games. I don't think we deserved to lose the game, but maybe didn't do enough to win it."

How some people arent getting sick of the excuses. Light on numbers? The players we had out before that game of any note are Petrov and Johnson. I rate Bojinov but he is still unproven.

Yes they open up other options but Everton had their entire strike force out and still scored 1 more than us.

'when teams frustrate us we haven't had the answers and Saturday was another case in point.'

Whats going to be the answer to that then? He should have the answers. Its all pointing to us kicking our way through these types of teams. There was evidence that with a run of games, The combination of Elano, Robinho and Ireland can open up these teams through the middle. Instead all that was rained back in the second half and back to long ball we go.

 

[bizzbo]

How some people arent getting sick of the excuses. Light on numbers? The players we had out before that game of any note are Petrov and Johnson. I rate Bojinov but he is still unproven.

Whats going to be the answer to that then? He should have the answers. Its all pointing to us kicking our way through these types of teams. There was evidence that with a run of games, The combination of Elano, Robinho and Ireland can open up these teams through the middle. Instead all that was rained back in the second half and back to long ball we go.

10 players out by my count. the key was garrido, sturridge, petrov, bojinov out. we had to play michael ball and a clearly unfit/out-of-sorts robinho. out left side was non existant, everton capitalised by crowding out the right hand side, ireland spent all his time helping out defensively, and wasnt available to link play in the centre as much. sweep was our best player first half but they cut off all supply to him.

and don't tell me that MH told people to hoof it about second half. we started off passing it about but were sloppy and got caught out a couple of times in the first 5 minutes. that's when the defenders lost confidence resorted to long ball.