Martin Demichelis

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The more you see of Demichelis the more you understand why they tried to buy Mangala from Porto. Demichelis is simply not up to PL standard.
And why on earth is Milner sidelined more or less permanently????
 
cleavers said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Best man in a City shirt last night and just goes to show how many people really know fuck all about football.

He never let anybody down and made every tackle asked of him.

The whole system failed because simply put, it only works when Fernandinho is at the heart of it.

Demichelis has excellent technique, kept the ball moving and attempted to put out fires all night.

It's become a convenient stick to beat him with.

Demichelis is no Fernandinho, a player who drives forward and has the capacity to run all day.

He covers for Yaya and does the work of two other players.

It's no coincidence the last time we lost at Sunderland it was because Fernandinho was also missing.
Same view as mine, we'd all prefer that MD didn't have to play there, but there were no other options last night as the rest weren't fit, and for me, he did as much as he could, the main problems were elsewhere on the pitch last night. Silva, Negredo, and Dzeko's boots, had any of them been near the form they are capable of we'd probably be top of the league this morning.


MD wasn't perfect last night and maybe should have done better in the move from which they scored - I think he should have fouled Hazard to start with - but he was far from the disaster some claim and none of the available alternatives were likely to do better. The main issues were elsewhere.
 
if garcia was fit there is no way mdm would have played( in defence maybe) but certainly not in the middle

neither are 1st choice for our team but garcia i feel would have given us better protection for yaya and silva

mdm's passing has a just about managing it feel about it where as garcia's would have been more secure
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
blue ranger said:
I just don't get it with MDM Tolm and can't see where you are coming from.
The truth is that MDM has been poor since the day we signed him. Always has a mistake in him and his habit of diving in on half way line and leaving the rest of defence exposed is comical at times. The problem we have is that Nastasic has been even worse this season and the truth is kompany has covered for both this season.

Most sane city fans know the best defending partnership we have is kompany and lescott. Unfortunately lescott has never had a run of games. Personally don't think lescott is the answer next season but he is certainly better than the other 2.

Once every city fan heard that team last night their hearts will have sunk. Everyone expected MDM and Yaya to be overrun in midfield. In truth they were. Agree MDM wasn't the worst player, nastasic, negredo etc would be at the top of that list but to say he was our top player is laughable. Navas and Hart out best 2 by some distance.

Most sane city fans???

Classic

Fundamentally to our team and the system we play is having a ball playing defender who links to midfield, sadly lescott can't pass 5 yards consistently enough to regarded as that player, get use to how MP sets up, he wants players comfortable on the ball which is why the cycle of players such as Richards, lescott, Milner, Barry is coming to an end, oh look, they're all English (alarm bells)

MD was nothing more than a stop gap and he's performed admirably since day one, performing poorly is a ridiculous statement and one which shows up a great deal of people's tactical savvy!!!!

Exactly this, the whole MDM debate seperates the people who actually watch a game and make their own mind up and people who cant think for themselves so repeat what various pundits have told them ie MDM is a liabilty.

Name one game where he has cost us points/goals directly from his mistakes...

The guy is a stop gap, a warm body at the time when we couldn't get our first choice in during the summer. This will be rectified in time , until then I would rather have him next to Vinny than Nastasic or Lescott, who lets face it looks like he has a hand grenade at his feet if someone passes him the ball....
 
blue ranger said:
I just don't get it with MDM Tolm and can't see where you are coming from.
The truth is that MDM has been poor since the day we signed him. Always has a mistake in him and his habit of diving in on half way line and leaving the rest of defence exposed is comical at times. The problem we have is that Nastasic has been even worse this season and the truth is kompany has covered for both this season.

Most sane city fans know the best defending partnership we have is kompany and lescott. Unfortunately lescott has never had a run of games. Personally don't think lescott is the answer next season but he is certainly better than the other 2.

Once every city fan heard that team last night their hearts will have sunk. Everyone expected MDM and Yaya to be overrun in midfield. In truth they were. Agree MDM wasn't the worst player, nastasic, negredo etc would be at the top of that list but to say he was our top player is laughable. Navas and Hart out best 2 by some distance.


I stopped reading when you said Lescott was a better player - he's shocking!

Mancini knew it, Pellegrini already knows it - just as he knows Richards is in the same category.

Demichelis has had more good games than bad since his arrival and I am more confortable when he is in the team than any of Nasty, Lescott, Rodwell or Garcia.

If you think Demichelis wasn't outstanding against Newcastle recently, I don't know here we can find any middle ground?

Demichelis is a squad player who is being played because the manager knows he ticks more boxes than the others.

Is Demichelis the second-coming of Baresi, no.

Is he the shite he is being made out to be, far from it.
 
Not as bad as most are making out on here he made some good challenges and he was outnumbered so often he was going to be out of position. We needed 2 defensive mids last night that was obvious
 
He had a good game but he does dive in to much for me unlike Fernandinho who reads the game and Knicks the ball wins it
 
Barry was one of the main reasons we were so shite last season. Slowed us down so so much. Pellers doesn't seem to have a plan B without Fernan which is worrying.
 
dasblues said:
Name one game where he has cost us points/goals directly from his mistakes...

He doesn't have to be responsible directly....he allows the chance to attack when he just dives into tackles without winning the ball. Seen it soooo many times this season. It certainly gives the opposition encouragement and causes them to concentrate on exposing him.

Really don't see what he offers at all...
 
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