Martin Demichelis

[mscenterh750]

Who was the last man playing messi on?. I bet if MDM was playing messi onside and kompany had brought him down, I bet my last pound that kompany wouldn't have been to blame, but MDM would've been crucified just like last night, by some of you. I don't think anybody has laid any blame on kompany, for putting MDM in such a position.

 

[steviemc]

I'm not buying into the whole "the amount of shit he's getting is unfair" bit tbh. He seems to have far more people defending him than you'd expect after getting sent off in that manner in a game of that importance. Obviously some people are over the top, but some of the support he's getting is pretty over the top also, some of it is bordering on Bosnian levels. Some people seem determined to convince people that he's amazing, when it's pretty clear that he isn't. All season people seem very keen to overlook his multiple huge errors, as he apparently is brilliant the rest of the time (out of interest, who isn't good if you only judge them on the things they do well and don't judge them on anything they do wrong?)

He clearly isn't good enough and is a liability/weak link/whatever you want to call it, but he's arguably the best option we have, so we have to get behind him if he plays for the rest of the season. But the reality is that his decision to lunge in and get sent off clearly lost us the game and has probably knocked us out of europe, although the rest of the team did fantastically well to keep us in the tie. Going down to 10 against Barca with 40 minutes left, we could easily of been absolutely battered and Demichelis is a very lucky boy that the other players stepped up and made a real game of it. If he's still our first choice CB at the start of the next season, then we will have done something seriously wrong.

He isn't amazing, and I haven't seen a single post that claims this. Have you made this up?

As far as the huge errors you refer to, a manager doesn't judge a defender solely on whether he makes a couple of errors over a large number of games. You also have to judge him on the contributions made in the winning matches (which in this case is a large majority). MP is well aware of this, that's why he does a job that we wouldn't last five minutes at.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Who was the last man playing messi on?. I bet if MDM was playing messi onside and kompany had brought him down, I bet my last pound that kompany wouldn't have been to blame, but MDM would've been crucified just like last night, by some of you. I don't think anybody has laid any blame on kompany, for putting MDM in such a position.

You are right, some people always need a scapegoat.

 

[chris85mcfc]

Should be a squad player really and the fact that he has played so many games this season says more about Lescott and Nastastic in my opinion.

Obviously we should have looked to bring someone else in in January but it certainly isn't MDM's fault that he is being played in games of last nights magnitude, I'm pretty sure he came to City thinking he was going to be a squad player which is probably about his level.

 

[mscenterh750]

Get off the blokes back FFS, he was playing really really well, then a series of events lead to him getting sent off, but the shit he's been getting on here is a disgrace.

Ask yourselves this, what would you have done, in that situation?. I would've done what he did, because messi was getting away from him, and nobody else was in sight, so he took a chance, but because it didn't come off, he got punished. Fine lines and split second thinking, and I'm sure now he's seen it, he may have thought to do it different, hind sight is wonderful, but in certain moments of play, you do what you think is right at the time.

I don't blame him one little bit.

While I agree with you that his criticism has been extreme, the bolded statement is the key part for me. As a ref, I know that the worst thing he could have done is what he did. As the last defender, once he commits ANY foul on the player it's automatically a red. A tackle from behind is going to end up being a foul 99 percent of the time, so he has to know he's getting sent off. His best bet in that situation was to let the GK do what he can and just be available to clear the ball if he can or simply have been more cynical in his tackle to ensure he came down well away from the box. For the record, not a penalty for me as the foul is from where the initial contact was initiated. A red card was the correct call but the restart should have been a direct free kick just outside the box.

I see where you're coming from, but he obviously thought "I can't catch him, but I have a chance of getting a tackle in and winning the ball, before he's away from me". Now that didn't happen and yes it was a poor decision in HINDSIGHT, but it was a split second choice and he/we paid a price for it. Being a ref you must've seen this sort of thing a thousand times.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Looks like alot of people have jumped ship and left garcia slating to start on MDM PATHETIC! If vinny zabba yaya fred silva or aguero would have done it there would not be this kind of reaction.

 

[mikeyboy]

doesn't matter how good City get as a team some of our fans always have to have a scapegoat. granted he isn't the best player in the world but he's no way as bad as some make out. people seem to take what pundits say as gospel to influence their own opinions and jump on the bandwagon.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

3 defenders, Zab, MDM and Clichy in a perfect line. Spot the missing one. If he's in line, that pass isn't on as Messi is offside.

 

[Marvin]

Looks like alot of people have jumped ship and left garcia slating to start on MDM PATHETIC! If vinny zabba yaya fred silva or aguero would have done it there would not be this kind of reaction.

They are indeed pathetic. Many must be rags.

Little do the idiots realise that this criticism just plays into our hands.

 

[Wilmslow Road]

Reminds me of Dunny, dives in, gives needless penalty's away.
I am sure if we had him at the same time as RD but instead of he would have cult status.