Matheus Nunes

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Cannockwolves said:
Hi Guys,

Wolves fan here to give you our take on Nunes.

Not salty at all, good player on his day and no doubt will be excellent with better players around him and Pep working his magic.

Am I sad he is going, not really!

I can't say many wolves fans will be crying over this if I am honest, and I know you are going to think I am being a bit salty over loosing such a player - but he has only really had two outstanding games for us - Chelsea and Liverpool. Maybe he was playing for a move, the rest of the games he was just OK.

I have been watching Wolves for 44 years, and believe it or not my first match as a kid in the 1970's was at Main Road when you lot took on Villa (my Dad was invited into an executive box) so I have always had a fondness for City rather than the Red lot.

Any way, I can say with 100% confidence that Ruben Neves was 100 times the player (and Man) than Nunes. He may not have been what you guys needed, but god I loved that bloke. Terrific professional, exceptional leader on and off the pitch - a real elite player. Best I have seen down the Mol in 44 years as a season ticket holder.

Nunes, good player. Pep will make him better, his mistakes wont be as costly to you as they are to us, and more to the point some of the ITK's our end are saying there is a lot more to this deal than meets the eye

This is what we understand is going on, and why it appears wolves have caved in - to be honest its a good deal

1. The £47m is cash up-front rather than the usual instalments (massive cashflow plus for wolves) who took out a loan when Liverpool paid in instalments for Jota (£45m at the time). People are saying this up front money and cashflow is saving Wolves another £6m in interest payments

2. After Doyle's season in the championship £5m is a steal (worth £15m) when compared to others like Alex Scott and Morgan Gibbs-White, also we don't have to pay until next season. Downside is you guys get a massive 50% sell on - great for you if we do actually sell.

3. This is something that most are missing, and it is being said the Nunes deal is being facilitated because Wolves are buying Santiago Bueno from FC Girona (a City Group Club run by Pep's brother) for £8m rather than his buyout clause of £20m

So when you piece it all together from a wolves perspective this deal is more like a £70m package, it sounds like a win win for both of us to be honest. City get a potentially great player and we get a much needed cash injection that can help us survive another year - which is probably where our owners ambitions are these days.
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Thanks for the insight mate. Sounds like a good deal for everyone really.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
No part of your asked for timeline has anything to do with your suggestion that I may have lied to people on here.

I've earned a living for thirty two years, selling news. I now choose to explore other ways of new platforms.

I already work, choosing to rein it back, but supplement the new career working in schools.

As for hopefully wishing I have zero chance to earn a living from it, says more about you being a bitter **** than anything else.

What a wanker.
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Jealousy and lack of ambition, vision and brain cells is a funny thing TH. Keep exploring new avenues and revenue streams. Fuck em. 'A man's reach should exceed his grasp ' ... no matter the endeavour, great or small. Crack on pal. Wish you the best with it all.
 
Cannockwolves said:
Hi Guys,

Wolves fan here to give you our take on Nunes.

Not salty at all, good player on his day and no doubt will be excellent with better players around him and Pep working his magic.

Am I sad he is going, not really!

I can't say many wolves fans will be crying over this if I am honest, and I know you are going to think I am being a bit salty over loosing such a player - but he has only really had two outstanding games for us - Chelsea and Liverpool. Maybe he was playing for a move, the rest of the games he was just OK.

I have been watching Wolves for 44 years, and believe it or not my first match as a kid in the 1970's was at Main Road when you lot took on Villa (my Dad was invited into an executive box) so I have always had a fondness for City rather than the Red lot.

Any way, I can say with 100% confidence that Ruben Neves was 100 times the player (and Man) than Nunes. He may not have been what you guys needed, but god I loved that bloke. Terrific professional, exceptional leader on and off the pitch - a real elite player. Best I have seen down the Mol in 44 years as a season ticket holder.

Nunes, good player. Pep will make him better, his mistakes wont be as costly to you as they are to us, and more to the point some of the ITK's our end are saying there is a lot more to this deal than meets the eye

This is what we understand is going on, and why it appears wolves have caved in - to be honest its a good deal

1. The £47m is cash up-front rather than the usual instalments (massive cashflow plus for wolves) who took out a loan when Liverpool paid in instalments for Jota (£45m at the time). People are saying this up front money and cashflow is saving Wolves another £6m in interest payments

2. After Doyle's season in the championship £5m is a steal (worth £15m) when compared to others like Alex Scott and Morgan Gibbs-White, also we don't have to pay until next season. Downside is you guys get a massive 50% sell on - great for you if we do actually sell.

3. This is something that most are missing, and it is being said the Nunes deal is being facilitated because Wolves are buying Santiago Bueno from FC Girona (a City Group Club run by Pep's brother) for £8m rather than his buyout clause of £20m

So when you piece it all together from a wolves perspective this deal is more like a £70m package, it sounds like a win win for both of us to be honest. City get a potentially great player and we get a much needed cash injection that can help us survive another year - which is probably where our owners ambitions are these days.
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Good post. Have to disagree with you on Neves though. Good men don't sell out during their peak years. He could've got you a similar fee and moved onto a top European club. He captained Porto at 18 and is clearly well regarded on the continent. He's settled for the money for his family instead though.

Hope you get a bit more business sorted before the window closes. You had a really good manager in Lopetegui and I think his exit speaks volumes. Have to feel for the fans as I think you are being sold short at the moment in terms of the club's recruitment strategy.
 
Cannockwolves said:
Hi Guys,

Wolves fan here to give you our take on Nunes.

Not salty at all, good player on his day and no doubt will be excellent with better players around him and Pep working his magic.

Am I sad he is going, not really!

I can't say many wolves fans will be crying over this if I am honest, and I know you are going to think I am being a bit salty over loosing such a player - but he has only really had two outstanding games for us - Chelsea and Liverpool. Maybe he was playing for a move, the rest of the games he was just OK.

I have been watching Wolves for 44 years, and believe it or not my first match as a kid in the 1970's was at Main Road when you lot took on Villa (my Dad was invited into an executive box) so I have always had a fondness for City rather than the Red lot.

Any way, I can say with 100% confidence that Ruben Neves was 100 times the player (and Man) than Nunes. He may not have been what you guys needed, but god I loved that bloke. Terrific professional, exceptional leader on and off the pitch - a real elite player. Best I have seen down the Mol in 44 years as a season ticket holder.

Nunes, good player. Pep will make him better, his mistakes wont be as costly to you as they are to us, and more to the point some of the ITK's our end are saying there is a lot more to this deal than meets the eye

This is what we understand is going on, and why it appears wolves have caved in - to be honest its a good deal

1. The £47m is cash up-front rather than the usual instalments (massive cashflow plus for wolves) who took out a loan when Liverpool paid in instalments for Jota (£45m at the time). People are saying this up front money and cashflow is saving Wolves another £6m in interest payments

2. After Doyle's season in the championship £5m is a steal (worth £15m) when compared to others like Alex Scott and Morgan Gibbs-White, also we don't have to pay until next season. Downside is you guys get a massive 50% sell on - great for you if we do actually sell.

3. This is something that most are missing, and it is being said the Nunes deal is being facilitated because Wolves are buying Santiago Bueno from FC Girona (a City Group Club run by Pep's brother) for £8m rather than his buyout clause of £20m

So when you piece it all together from a wolves perspective this deal is more like a £70m package, it sounds like a win win for both of us to be honest. City get a potentially great player and we get a much needed cash injection that can help us survive another year - which is probably where our owners ambitions are these days.
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Thanks for posting bud. Its hard to lose good players so I respect your assessment of the transfer. City of old used to have to sell to survive and although it hard to take now, hopefully the money helps and you get a few good players to keep you in the premiership.

All the best this season.
 
So City have practically stolen Nunes from Wolves. what a deal. City will pay 55M to purchase Nunes and then sell Palmer for 45M.

Essentially City purchased Nunes for 10M !

Don't think the fans can be mad about this deal.
 
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