It’s not a strange tactic, we are a business and are run like one. We offer what we deem a fair price, if it’s acceptable then great, if not we move on. We bid because we are interested, and maybe we are trying to bring prices down to realistic levels again rather than adding to the problem by just agreeing and paying or inflating them further.And he was that bad the Champions of England and Europe want him, come on we complain when we are low balled for our cast offs let we not prepared to pay what other clubs want.
50/60m for Nunes in this market with four years left on his deal is not an outrageous price.
The point I am making which I simply don't understand is our negotiating tactics in this window.
Rice and now Nunes, offer sums we are fully aware that clubs won't accept and we are not prepared to increase our bids.
So why make the bids in the first place? We won't be held to ransom rightly so but playing hard ball for players that a club is prepared to sell only when their valuation is met is a strange tactic.
It's a very strange tactic with a couple of days left in the window, no bargains are to be had at this stage unless a club is desperate to get rid of a player and in this case Wolves don't seem to be in that position.It’s not a strange tactic, we are a business and are run like one. We offer what we deem a fair price, if it’s acceptable then great, if not we move on. We bid because we are interested, and maybe we are trying to bring prices down to realistic levels again rather than adding to the problem by just agreeing and paying or inflating them further.
We have signed 3 great players and already Kovacic and Gvardiol look like bargains.They say there is a 5m difference and we should just up the bid to 60m well why no wolves drop to 55m then!?
Think it's dead personally and that be us done!
The three players we bought though are top notch..
50/60m for Nunes in this market with four years left on his deal is not an outrageous price.
To bid only once at a valuation the selling club doesn’t feel appropriate (which we knew) at this stage in the window is a strange tactic.It’s not a strange tactic, we are a business and are run like one. We offer what we deem a fair price, if it’s acceptable then great, if not we move on. We bid because we are interested, and maybe we are trying to bring prices down to realistic levels again rather than adding to the problem by just agreeing and paying or inflating them further.
Yeah your right, our scouts, execs and manager make a judgment on how much the club think he is worth. They will have a maximum amount they will pay for a player. If that's not enough they move on.I am not the one rating the player, I have not watched him enough to make judgment, but our scouts, execs and our manager has.
We have identified him as a player that would make us stronger.
So you negotiate with his present club and as said with the current market Wolves expect a mark up on what they paid, and it for me does not seem to be over the top.
I was selling something to someone recently and had the same conversation but the other way around… ”can you drop it £20 mate?” “no it’s £40 as is!” “It’s only £20 mate…” “well if it’s only £20 then you’ll be fine paying the £40!” Wouldn’t mind but I’d dropped it from £50 lol.They say there is a 5m difference and we should just up the bid to 60m well why no wolves drop to 55m then!?
Think it's dead personally and that be us done!
The three players we bought though are top notch..
A good few of us wanted the club to sign Mac Allister, absolute bargain. Now the market is crazy. Imagine Kovacic and Mac Allister for the same money wolves want for Nunes. It's mad.
We don’t need Macallister with kovacic tho… we need creativity
Miss Pearce?He's 25; please can you stop talking about him like he smells of Lynx Africa and just experienced his first ever erection because Miss Pearce bent over to get the stapler out of the bottom drawer.
No but you bid low knowing you usually meet somewhere in the middle, we were clearly given the nod that would be how the dancee worked but Wolves are trying to squeeze us. City don’t do that type of dealing, we danced and now the tune has changed so we are moving on to another club.To bid only once at a valuation the selling club doesn’t feel appropriate (which we knew) at this stage in the window is a strange tactic.
Does the first bid ever work, unless it’s a release clause. it didn’t with Rice, didn’t agree the first price with Paqueta. Gvardiol took a while to get an agreement.
To bid only once now seems odd.
I just don’t like the greed on show. £55m is close enough that it should be acceptable. I was mainly taking about wolves valuation of the player and the market as it stands as to why I was happy to pay the £60m. The player is caught up in it all and if we are only talking about the player, he hasn’t done anything to warrant the increase.Why has your tone changed suddenly? You were happy when you thought we were going to pay 60 million euros. Now you think he has done nothing for a £30 million jump?
As said I have not watched him to make judgement but our club has and our manager clearly likes him and did in Portugal, so what we think about him is irrelevant.It's not when you consider he's an almost totally unremarkable player. Not saying he's bad or anything because he is good but good players are ten a penny. He's a good athlete who carries the ball incredibly well. Outside of that he's pretty limited.
The reason why we're going for him as our 4th (? 5th? 6th?) choice option is almost certainly because we thought he was attainable. Paqueta is under investigation, Rice got sold for well above his value, Bellingham chose Madrid, Eze isn't leaving Palace for anything less than £70/80m and so on.
I get your point about how we've conducted our business but it's been the same year after year. We offer what we think a player's worth and if there's no realistic compromise then we move on.
What it looks like to me is that the club know we need an extra body but we're not willing to pay the current prices for players whose individual qualities don't justify the fee.
There are no top quality options on the market and the mid tier ones are getting top tier price tags put on them. That's the reality of the situation.
City and Mendes have left this kid out to dry. City have turned his head while submitting a low ball offer. Their refusal to move at all has caused this kid to get desperate. If his decision to sit works out City steals him at a low ball price. If not, oh well, City don't seem to care. And his agent is a real prick for not talking him out of sitting out.
It is a poor decision by Nunes to sit but I'm disappointed that the club would fuck with a kid's head like this. It's a bad look IMO. And his agent should be sanctioned...
Mendes will know exactly what price Wolves will sell for and advice us, so again I find our tactics slightly odd.Yeah your right, our scouts, execs and manager make a judgment on how much the club think he is worth. They will have a maximum amount they will pay for a player. If that's not enough they move on.
We are taking a risk by not signing another midfielder for me, your asking a lot of Rodri/Kovacic and the latter has had injury niggles throughout his career.
It's also highly likely that we have been given the nod by his own agent that the bid we submitted would be accepted.Christ, we're not running a day nursery here..
City have every right to make an offer for a player at their valuation and Wolves have every right to turn it down. Nunes is under contract at Wolves and he should respect that and not spit the dummy.
He's a professional player and should act accordingly. If he didn't want to stay at Wolves why sign a long contract ?
City should walk away.
Exactly mate, and like I said last night, it’s utterly bizarre we expect our first bid to be accepted.And he was that bad the Champions of England and Europe want him, come on we complain when we are low balled for our cast offs let we not prepared to pay what other clubs want.
50/60m for Nunes in this market with four years left on his deal is not an outrageous price.
The point I am making which I simply don't understand is our negotiating tactics in this window.
Rice and now Nunes, offer sums we are fully aware that clubs won't accept and we are not prepared to increase our bids.
So why make the bids in the first place? We won't be held to ransom rightly so but playing hard ball for players that a club is prepared to sell only when their valuation is met is a strange tactic.