Media bias against City

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Goater=Legend said:
Lol Jeff Stelling making the point about Bony not getting chances since he's signed. Not even bothering to research into the fact he's been injured.

"Is he just another scott sinclair"

Twats lol
 
Pablo1 said:
franksinatra said:
I cannot even believe this article is being discussed. Who exactly is this guy? He is just some internet chancer who has written an intentionally provoking article in the hope he will receive clicks and hits and typically City fans are lapping it up and giving this bile, oxygen to breath.

It is exactly the reason these posts are so extreme and provoking because, as this thread proves, such garbage receives the most amount of interest.

You can just see lurking reds or pool fans returning to Rawk and sad cafe and sharing the article as a method of winding City fans up.

As a fanbase we need to be more secure in the development and the path we have taken. Every slight, negative comment cannot be taken as some conspiracy or crusade against the club. But If you choose to read internet drivel written by some fat inadequate who gets his kicks out of winding people up on the internet do not be surprised if you are offended.

This article should not have seen the light of day instead it has probably been viewed by an additional 1000 people on this forum alone. You have made the clowns day.
Yes Frank we get it. You're a very rational man who doesn't get aggrieved by the constant attacks on our club. Wherever they're the subtle ones or the outright bitter, we should all just ignore them and carry on as though we're treated equal.
Well fuck that, this one, though only written by some fuckwit in his basement is a prime example of what the national media have acheived with their constant negativity aimed at us.
I don't know what part of the world you inhabit or how often you chat to people who support different clubs but I can tell you that in my line of business I get to speak to blokes on a daily basis from all parts of the uk who's opinions of City are formed by articles such as this. Anyone who thinks the years of tabloid nonsense aimed at us or the obvious Sky bias against us hasn't had a drip drip affect on how we're perceived are living in lala land.

It is not really a case of being rational or not. Some no mark inadequate has spewed a loud of venom on the internet and for some reason Blue Moon have decided the cut and paste it, post the link and therefore promote the stupidity of his words to a wider audience. So if you believe in the drip drip effect of negative comments I would be interested to know what highlighting it achieves exactly?

Yes mate I do live outside the bubble of Manchester. I have lived in Hampshire, Berkshire and Essex over the past three years and talk to fans representing most of the clubs in the South of England. Most like someone else stated, once you scratch below the typical football banter, are quite jealous of our position in the context they wish it was them but certainly most do not begrudge us our day in the sun. A lot comment about how we get really cheap season tickets for £299 although for the past season the reality is they have been few and far between. So sometimes we do receive positive press coverage also even though it is not fully accurate.

As for an obvious SKY bias I really do not see it. I see a selection of different presenters holding a number of different stances in relation to the football club. SKY and the money we receive of them is probably a considerable factor in the Sheik buying an English club and will be a huge factor in us meeting FFP over the coming years. Furthermore I have never known Mike Wedderburn express any bias against us and if memory serves me correctly was the lead anchor after we won one derby and mentioned it verbatim during the course of the morning. This forum would have been on melt down if it happened the other way round.

I do not mind this thread although I disagree with a lot what is written. Discussing FFP or Rumenigge is one thing but being so thin-skinned to get upset by some chancer on a blog and giving it publicity is another thing.
 
Had to laugh this morning. SKY doing a poll on greatest Premiership central midfielder. When the bird went to the screen showing the latest voting position it couldn't fit all the candidates on so 2 were missing at the bottom. Guess which two............yes, correct, Yaya and Lampard.
 
franksinatra said:
Pablo1 said:
franksinatra said:
I cannot even believe this article is being discussed. Who exactly is this guy? He is just some internet chancer who has written an intentionally provoking article in the hope he will receive clicks and hits and typically City fans are lapping it up and giving this bile, oxygen to breath.

It is exactly the reason these posts are so extreme and provoking because, as this thread proves, such garbage receives the most amount of interest.

You can just see lurking reds or pool fans returning to Rawk and sad cafe and sharing the article as a method of winding City fans up.

As a fanbase we need to be more secure in the development and the path we have taken. Every slight, negative comment cannot be taken as some conspiracy or crusade against the club. But If you choose to read internet drivel written by some fat inadequate who gets his kicks out of winding people up on the internet do not be surprised if you arenas offended.

This article should not have seen the light of day instead it has probably been viewed by an additional 1000 people on this forum alone. You have made the clowns day.
Yes Frank we get it. You're a very rational man who doesn't get aggrieved by the constant attacks on our club. Wherever they're the subtle ones or the outright bitter, we should all just ignore them and carry on as though we're treated equal.
Well fuck that, this one, though only written by some fuckwit in his basement is a prime example of what the national media have acheived with their constant negativity aimed at us.
I don't know what part of the world you inhabit or how often you chat to people who support different clubs but I can tell you that in my line of business I get to speak to blokes on a daily basis from all parts of the uk who's opinions of City are formed by articles such as this. Anyone who thinks the years of tabloid nonsense aimed at us or the obvious Sky bias against us hasn't had a drip drip affect on how we're perceived are living in lala land.

It is not really a case of being rational or not. Some no mark inadequate has spewed a loud of venom on the internet and for some reason Blue Moon have decided the cut and paste it, post the link and therefore promote the stupidity of his words to a wider audience. So if you believe in the drip drip effect of negative comments I would be interested to know what highlighting it achieves exactly?

Yes mate I do live outside the bubble of Manchester. I have lived in Hampshire, Berkshire and Essex over the past three years and talk to fans representing most of the clubs in the South of England. Most like someone else stated, once you scratch below the typical football banter, are quite jealous of our position in the context they wish it was them but certainly most do not begrudge us our day in the sun. A lot comment about how we get really cheap season tickets for £299 although for the past season the reality is they have been few and far between. So sometimes we do receive positive press coverage also even though it is not fully accurate.

As for an obvious SKY bias I really do not see it. I see a selection of different presenters holding a number of different stances in relation to the football club. SKY and the money we receive of them is probably a considerable factor in the Sheik buying an English club and will be a huge factor in us meeting FFP over the coming years. Furthermore I have never known Mike Wedderburn express any bias against us and if memory serves me correctly was the lead anchor after we won one derby and mentioned it verbatim during the course of the morning. This forum would have been on melt down if it happened the other way round.

I do not mind this thread although I disagree with a lot what is written. Discussing FFP or Rumenigge is one thing but being so thin-skinned to get upset by some chancer on a blog and giving it publicity is another thing.

It wasn't BM who posted the article, it was me. I posted the whole article so there's no need to click on the link. As a rule when I post a full or part article I usually post a link or name the website. Regardless of what people think of an article, it's only fair. I go by that rule on SSC, so I tend to abide by that on here as well. That aside, people don't have to read the article. And if they have read it, they can make up therir own minds about it. That's the beauty of a forum and the interweb in general.
 
franksinatra said:
As for an obvious SKY bias I really do not see it.

I agreed with most of your comments but that surprised me. Whilst it's not really an issue for me (if I don't like a product that isn't for me I just don't buy it), I think their output is quite clearly targeted at the very people in the suburban area's where you have been living - ie the plastic rags with no intention of ever going to the swamp but with a need/want for some perceived glory-by-association fix by being "Man U fans". The fact that they are, in the main, sad tossers that are utterly devoid of self-awareness makes this something of a fait accompli. However they exist in the millions, they soak this shit up like the gormless, vacuous morons that they are, and are what I would consider to be the bedrock of Sky subscribers. So I have nothing but respect for Sky in finding the market and producing a product that fits it perfectly and in so doing making a very healthy return. I doubt that many of their front-of-house staff are not aware of this and choose their behaviour accordingly so as to remain "on message" and in employment.

How any City fan (who sees it as I have described) subscribes to it though is beyond me.
 
Mike N said:
I gave up with that sad article two sentences in and wont be discussing it further.

Back to the Agenda!

The Times today, Netbusters chart. Sergio's at the top of the list of the Premier League highest goalscorers. However Harry Kane has his photo atop the list. If you were just scanning the page you'd probably presume that Kane is the leading scorer.
Quite right too
The media bias rules are that
1. If a negative story about football then crowbar a picture of Manchester City in there, even if has nothing to do with them
2. If it's a positive story about City show a picture of something related to United, and if you can't then show something from a darling of the media.
 
1961_vintage said:
franksinatra said:
As for an obvious SKY bias I really do not see it.

I agreed with most of your comments but that surprised me. Whilst it's not really an issue for me (if I don't like a product that isn't for me I just don't buy it), I think their output is quite clearly targeted at the very people in the suburban area's where you have been living - ie the plastic rags with no intention of ever going to the swamp but with a need/want for some perceived glory-by-association fix by being "Man U fans". The fact that they are, in the main, sad tossers that are utterly devoid of self-awareness makes this something of a fait accompli. However they exist in the millions, they soak this shit up like the gormless, vacuous morons that they are, and are what I would consider to be the bedrock of Sky subscribers. So I have nothing but respect for Sky in finding the market and producing a product that fits it perfectly and in so doing making a very healthy return. I doubt that many of their front-of-house staff are not aware of this and choose their behaviour accordingly so as to remain "on message" and in employment.

How any City fan (who sees it as I have described) subscribes to it though is beyond me.

Bit deep but I reckon you are correct who they target, it's obvious they also seem to have a bias for the sweaty socks although I'm not saying they are all gormless.
 
jrb said:
franksinatra said:
Pablo1 said:
Yes Frank we get it. You're a very rational man who doesn't get aggrieved by the constant attacks on our club. Wherever they're the subtle ones or the outright bitter, we should all just ignore them and carry on as though we're treated equal.
Well fuck that, this one, though only written by some fuckwit in his basement is a prime example of what the national media have acheived with their constant negativity aimed at us.
I don't know what part of the world you inhabit or how often you chat to people who support different clubs but I can tell you that in my line of business I get to speak to blokes on a daily basis from all parts of the uk who's opinions of City are formed by articles such as this. Anyone who thinks the years of tabloid nonsense aimed at us or the obvious Sky bias against us hasn't had a drip drip affect on how we're perceived are living in lala land.

It is not really a case of being rational or not. Some no mark inadequate has spewed a loud of venom on the internet and for some reason Blue Moon have decided the cut and paste it, post the link and therefore promote the stupidity of his words to a wider audience. So if you believe in the drip drip effect of negative comments I would be interested to know what highlighting it achieves exactly?

Yes mate I do live outside the bubble of Manchester. I have lived in Hampshire, Berkshire and Essex over the past three years and talk to fans representing most of the clubs in the South of England. Most like someone else stated, once you scratch below the typical football banter, are quite jealous of our position in the context they wish it was them but certainly most do not begrudge us our day in the sun. A lot comment about how we get really cheap season tickets for £299 although for the past season the reality is they have been few and far between. So sometimes we do receive positive press coverage also even though it is not fully accurate.

As for an obvious SKY bias I really do not see it. I see a selection of different presenters holding a number of different stances in relation to the football club. SKY and the money we receive of them is probably a considerable factor in the Sheik buying an English club and will be a huge factor in us meeting FFP over the coming years. Furthermore I have never known Mike Wedderburn express any bias against us and if memory serves me correctly was the lead anchor after we won one derby and mentioned it verbatim during the course of the morning. This forum would have been on melt down if it happened the other way round.

I do not mind this thread although I disagree with a lot what is written. Discussing FFP or Rumenigge is one thing but being so thin-skinned to get upset by some chancer on a blog and giving it publicity is another thing.

It wasn't BM who posted the article, it was me. I posted the whole article so there's no need to click on the link. As a rule when I post a full or part article I usually post a link or name the website. Regardless of what people think of an article, it's only fair. I go by that rule on SSC, so I tend to abide by that on here as well. That aside, people don't have to read the article. And if they have read it, they can make up therir own minds about it. That's the beauty of a forum and the interweb in general.

I, respectfully, disagree with Frank. I believe that lying propaganda is lying propaganda whether the audience is one person or a million people. As such I think it is our duty to expose it as such at every opportunity in whatever forum (in its widest sense) we deem fit.
 
1961_vintage said:
franksinatra said:
As for an obvious SKY bias I really do not see it.

I agreed with most of your comments but that surprised me. Whilst it's not really an issue for me (if I don't like a product that isn't for me I just don't buy it), I think their output is quite clearly targeted at the very people in the suburban area's where you have been living - ie the plastic rags with no intention of ever going to the swamp but with a need/want for some perceived glory-by-association fix by being "Man U fans". The fact that they are, in the main, sad tossers that are utterly devoid of self-awareness makes this something of a fait accompli. However they exist in the millions, they soak this shit up like the gormless, vacuous morons that they are, and are what I would consider to be the bedrock of Sky subscribers. So I have nothing but respect for Sky in finding the market and producing a product that fits it perfectly and in so doing making a very healthy return. I doubt that many of their front-of-house staff are not aware of this and choose their behaviour accordingly so as to remain "on message" and in employment.

How any City fan (who sees it as I have described) subscribes to it though is beyond me.

I most definitely agree with you about a targeted United audience and unquestionably that results in more coverage. I think with SKY though they more report the stories than anything else. With possibly the Sunday Supplement being an exception. There is no doubt there are those who unquestionably do not like City but I would suggest that is an individual opinion, rather than this all consuming agenda against the club.

On the wider context of the media in general, once again I would suggest United receive a disproportionate amount of media coverage, to reflect their audience however where I am in disagreement with the majority is that can also result in unfavourable coverage when things go wrong. I would argue this season LVG has been the most criticised manager, due to long ball, playing Rooney out of position, three at the back, not playing the United way etc and would suggest Moyes was also the most criticised manager last season.

At a lot of the things we are criticised by the press for, the lack of English, academy players, poor signings are often also threads on this forum. I just cannot believe, for example, a list of the best premier league midfielders has been produced and SKY have purposely left of the names of Yaya and Lampard to undermine the clubs achievements in some way. Personally I am amazed Yaya is on that list due to only playing in England for a short period and would Chelsea fans not be more aggrieved by Lampards omission from the bottom of the list than ourselves?
 
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