Media Discussion - 2023/24

[John Wayne]

I don't mind him doing it, but why show it on live TV when City are the English team in the competition?
I don't blame Ferdinand. I blame BT Sport for showing it, thinking it was great fun for everyone to see.

Correct. I can't remember it being shown on TV but I do know that Jake Humphrey tweeted it. I think that he was wrong to do that and, if it was shown on TV, then BT were wrong to do it too.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I think Ferdinand has a grudging respect for City and is a lot fairer than many of the pundits from that other red shirted team from the wrong end of the East Lancs Road. JMHO

 

[Kippax77]

I'm ok with his Vinicius celebrations. He was off the air. He's a legend at United. What do people expect? He didn't want us to win, but why should he? People would be pissing their sides on here if a clip emerged of Micah Richards celebrating a goal against United in the studio but off the air. The important thing is that when he is on the air he puts those biases to one side and views things as objectively and impartiality as he can. I think Rio does this well on the whole. Roy Keane does too. On the contrary, I think Carragher and Neville are less professional in this regard. Their prejudices taint their commentary and the veil slips far too often.

It's different in my eyes, City, utd, domestic league games.
We were England's only representatives in Europe at that game/stage but that didn't mean fuck all to him.
He wanted us to lose full stop.
A **** of a man who just couldn't hide his distain for us

 

[cheekybids]

Just had a quick Google and both ITV and a local media outlet have published the same details. Can't be right to publish address details surely?

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-02-14/man-admits-mocking-stadium-disaster-and-racist-abuse-at-merseyside-derby

Man admits mocking Heysel stadium disaster and racist abuse at Merseyside derby

Joel Barwise, 26, made pushing gestures towards Liverpool fans during the game against Everton at Anfield on October 21 last year.

www.runcornandwidnesworld.co.uk

It’s not exactly an accurate representation of the night in Heysel is it…..

The gestures were made to taunt the home fans about the Heysel stadium disaster, when 39 Juventus fans died in a crush before the club’s European Cup final against Liverpool in May 1985.

 

[Platt Lane 59]

To be fair that was Laura wood’s asking and comparing,Ferdinand put her straight saying until he wins trophies and does it on the big stage in big games he can’t be bracketed as world class ..

It seems to be a regular distraction tactic away from City, whenever Phil is being analysed :-
"Ask the pundits where Phil should play for England ?"
This immediately takes the topic away from Phil and City's performance in that particular game.
If City were beaten, this would not be mentioned at all.
Cannot understand why Saka's name was even mentioned ?
Was the female anchor person who brought up Saka, an Arsenal fan ?
Personally, I would play Phil for England as a #10, but this is a completely different conversation...

 

[PPT]

It’s not exactly an accurate representation of the night in Heysel is it…..

The gestures were made to taunt the home fans about the Heysel stadium disaster, when 39 Juventus fans died in a crush before the club’s European Cup final against Liverpool in May 1985.

“He made fun of a tragic football disaster in Turin in 1985 and shouted racist abuse when a key Liverpool player’s name was announced.

 

[John Wayne]

It's different in my eyes, City, utd, domestic league games.
We were England's only representatives in Europe at that game/stage but that didn't mean fuck all to him.
He wanted us to lose full stop.
A **** of a man who just couldn't hide his distain for us

Just a man who didn't want us to win because of his club loyalties. I'm not at all hurt by it. Since when did people start caring again about rival English clubs doing well in Europe? I'd be perfectly fine if Richards/Lescott/Onuoha did the same if United conceded a goal. I can tell you one thing - if City go out of the CL then I sure as hell won't be cheering on Arsenal as this country's last representative.

 

[Kippax77]

Just a man who didn't want us to win because of his club loyalties. I'm not at all hurt by it. Since when did people start caring again about rival English clubs doing well in Europe? I'd be perfectly fine if Richards/Lescott/Onuoha did the same if United conceded a goal. I can tell you one thing - if City go out of the CL then I sure as hell won't be cheering on Arsenal as this country's last representative.

I'm also sure if lescott jumped around the studio celebrating a goal against utd in the semi final of the champions league it would be the last thing he did on BT/TNT

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

“He made fun of a tragic football disaster in Turin in 1985 and shouted racist abuse when a key Liverpool player’s name was announced.

Does it not mention who caused the “tragic football disaster”?

 

[Delboy352]

I caught the start of Jay’s righteous crusade on Talk Shite this morning, but had to abandon it due to a dental appointment. I’ll catch it when it becomes available. The thing that got me though was Danny Murphy and his “fans respect teams that do it organically” or words to that effect, when talking about why fans don’t respect City. Don’t get me wrong, I would have loved us to do it organically, but everyone knows that as you grow organically the big boys come and cherry pick your best players so you are always kept in your place In the pecking order. The shite were very fortunate to have the “F*cking class of f*cking 92”. If that had been us at that time, we would have had our pants pulled down and the best players in the team picked off one by one.