Media Discussion - 2023/24

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tommy116 said:
The sooner the goofy twat goes the better, not because of any success but the sickly media attention he gets for such an average trophy haul.
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It’s not just the trophy haul. The media have done a fantastic job of portraying his time at Liverpool as Pep v Klopp and yet his actual league record says otherwise.

Eight years this fella has done at Liverpool. He’s finished 4th or worse in half of those, including winning a title and then needing his keeper to score a header the following season to limp to CL qualification. He finished 5th last season behind such managerial greats at ETH and Eddie Howe and this is the guy the media try to compare to arguably the greatest manager of all time?

Pep is considered a failure if he finishes 2nd and yet Klopp gets an extended holiday every other season. I have no idea why he is running off with his tail between his legs, he has the easiest job in world football. He’s at a club that masquerades as a big club but is actually run like a mid-table PL team that is happy with just avoiding relegation every season. If Klopp had his record at any of the big clubs across Europe, he would have arguably been sacked in 20/21 and he would have 100% been gone last season.

Klopp is a good manager. Theres been loads of them in the English game over the years. I don’t remember any of them getting this amount of credit for one league title, plus a bunch of average/poor seasons. The defence of his one league title is always Citys spending power and yet they never delve into the fact that half the time, there are other clubs between City and Liverpool in the final standings.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
It’s not just the trophy haul. The media have done a fantastic job of portraying his time at Liverpool as Pep v Klopp and yet his actual league record says otherwise.

Eight years this fella has done at Liverpool. He’s finished 4th or worse in half of those, including winning a title and then needing his keeper to score a header the following season to limp to CL qualification. He finished 5th last season behind such managerial greats at ETH and Eddie Howe and this is the guy the media try to compare to arguably the greatest manager of all time?

Pep is considered a failure if he finishes 2nd and yet Klopp gets an extended holiday every other season. I have no idea why he is running off with his tail between his legs, he has the easiest job in world football. He’s at a club that masquerades as a big club but is actually run like a mid-table PL team that is happy with just avoiding relegation every season. If Klopp had his record at any of the big clubs across Europe, he would have arguably been sacked in 20/21 and he would have 100% been gone last season.

Klopp is a good manager. Theres been loads of them in the English game over the years. I don’t remember any of them getting this amount of credit for one league title, plus a bunch of average/poor seasons. The defence of his one league title is always Citys spending power and yet they never delve into the fact that half the time, there are other clubs between City and Liverpool in the final standings.
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Totally correct..but that wont stop them wanting to re-write isstree into something they want it to be remembered by.

Shout it enough times, it becomes fact
Been done many times over the decades (not just in football)
 
BBC app currently running a “World Class” Palmer feature which in fairness doesn’t read as frenzied as the “world class” Jesus stories of last season. But what amazes me there is no reference to the incredible business we did in terms of transfer fee for this lad who joined us for nowt as a 6 year old…. Unusual for a city story that money isn’t referenced ffs pathetic
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Ian Wright coming across as another bitter twat on MNF.

Basically killed him to give Pep and the club any credit when he was asked if Pep had done a better job than Klopp given he has won 5 titles to Klopps 1. He squirmed “peps done well” then referred to our 115 charges and said until that’s addressed there’s still an “elephant in the room”.

As for that knobhead Carragher he just said Klopp will go down as a better manager than Pep in his opinion and started waffling about how Klopp inherited a terrible Liverpool team and has spent less than Pep.

Sky finally being cancelled in the morning - Tired of this shit.
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Remarkable that, of all people, Ian Wright should come out with this given that Arteta is basically a Pep disciple. Arteta has acknowledged that he learnt most of what he knows from Pep. It's not an exaggeration to say that Arsenal's current success would not have been possible without Pep. This is without even taking into account Jesus and Zinchenko. He should be grateful but instead he comes out with this bollocks in an attempt to seem edgy.
 
LongsightM13 said:
He was transparently fishing for a “Pep loves Thatcher” quote to enrage the Cult
No wonder he despises the cunts
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I saw it as him trying to draw a parallel / connection between Guardiola and one of the most scouse-hated personalities.

Similar to naming someone alongside say Saville would imply that they were also guilty of similar heinous offences.

Unless I have missed something in the build up to that particular question, I am unsure as to why that would be a burning question in a sports presser..............
 
jaiguruKun said:
Remarkable that, of all people, Ian Wright should come out with this given that Arteta is basically a Pep disciple. Arteta has acknowledged that he learnt most of what he knows from Pep. It's not an exaggeration to say that Arsenal's current success would not have been possible without Pep. This is without even taking into account Jesus and Zinchenko. He should be grateful but instead he comes out with this bollocks in an attempt to seem edgy.
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Watched this on YouTube, I'm sure 'off air" they are told the script so Sky are complicit.He should be assured we as City fans just as much as him want a resolution as we are drained with it but MNF is not the place to discuss it.Ther records are not comparable and if you take the Courinho money off the net spend there's little in it and no guarantee more expensive players would have performed as well for him.
 
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