Media Discussion - 2023/24

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gordondaviesmoustache said:
Kay has said is that the charges taint his view of our success, thereby arriving at a conclusion before due process has been followed, an outcome determined, and before the club has had any opportunity to establish its innocence.
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You mean exactly the same way you think Mason Greenwood is a rapist despite him never being tried and convicted? Both cases where evidence was put in the public domain so people made their own minds up before the end of due process.

Can we drop the intellectual dishonesty here? We live in a world where being charged for something changes how people think about you. You do it, Kay does it, everyone does it.

This idea that everyone else should think about the club as if nothing has happened at all is complete fantasy, and it's deeply hypocritical because anyone who spends an hour on this site could find a dozen examples of us doing the same to other clubs or individuals.
 
ancoats said:
This is scandalous and Manchester City football club should be all over him like a rash

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I think you have to take into account that Keys is doing his master's bidding when he says stuff like this. In the same way as the red top journalists are permanently promoting the red shirts and anti-blue bcause that's what their editor tells them to do, Bein Sports is Qatari owned and operated so will be critical of anything that is UAE or KSA operated. Their under-performing darling is PSG but when Mbappe leaves, that's over.

I lived in Qatar for 7 years and the UAE 2 years. There is no love lost between those countries. Saudi and the UAE see Qatar as a johnny-come-lately upstart stealing their limelight and they hate it. Qatar getting the world cup was the last straw and I was living in Qatar when the UAE and KSA illegally blockaded the country effectively trying to starve the country to death and destroy its economy. It was openly stated that if Qatar rescinded the world cup, the blockade would be lifted.

The American owned clubs have their generic anti-Arab agenda, but within the Arab world, you have a secondary sub-agenda of Qatar having to prevent itself being invaded by its more powerful neighbours. They fight back through a combination of strategic military alliances (ironically, mostly with the USA) and high profile companies, events and media. Keys is one of their flag-waving paid puppets.

It's why they were so keen to buy the rags. Nothing to do with wanting a return on investment; it would have been purely about making a team owned by a Qatari more succesful than a team primarily owned by an Emirati. They failed with PSG at European level so it was a chance to change tactics and instead compete at domestic level.

Arab politics is all about who's got the best tribe and the most resources; honestly nothing's changed since T.E Lawrence ran the show (and caused all of today's issues by giving the Saud family the most resources in the first place, depending what version of events you choose to believe).
 
domalino said:
You mean exactly the same way you think Mason Greenwood is a rapist despite him never being tried and convicted? Both cases where evidence was put in the public domain so people made their own minds up before the end of due process.

Can we drop the intellectual dishonesty here? We live in a world where being charged for something changes how people think about you. You do it, Kay does it, everyone does it.
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everybody is tried in the court of public opinion these days, evidence and due process has little to do with it in the social media age.
 
mancboy said:
everybody is tried in the court of public opinion these days, evidence and due process has little to do with it in the social media age.
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It's a very dangerous world we are living in at the moment, Social Media makes or breaks you at the click of a button. What is the point of Jury service not knowing everything about the case they are on, Relying solely on the evidence provided by both the defendant and prosecuted,
 
domalino said:
You mean exactly the same way you think Mason Greenwood is a rapist despite him never being tried and convicted? Both cases where evidence was put in the public domain so people made their own minds up before the end of due process.
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Greenwood is a piss poor example, as whilst I’ve never called him a rapist there is plainly evidence in the public domain which clearly establishes (at the very least) there would be a civil case to answer. And I would stand in front of anyone and say that.

What is the equivalent evidence in the public domain in relation to City?
 
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