Media Discussion - 2023/24

[bluenova]

Delaney has a book out about all things Sportswashing.


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Apparently because we're In what feels a crucial period for the game's history.

No - the crucial period was thirtyish years ago, when gate receipts stopped being shared, the PL was formed to keep more money for the bigger clubs, and the CL was formed, and expanded leading to a financial gap so big that even simple billionaires were priced out. Oh, and FFP to tie it all up neatly.

I read the other day a piece by the Liverpool "journalist" in the Athletic. He genuinely said that he felt the problems of today's football were caused by teams with unlimited wealth forcing up prices. It's his fucking job to know this stuff.

 

[Mr Fraser]

I know he's not especially well liked my many, but I did enjoy this from Barry Glendenning.

Football Daily | Liverpool, Chelsea and the cautionary tale of the offside patella

In today’s Football Daily: Fizzy Cup musings, Gary Mabbutt and Shinji Okazaki: the [Filbert] streets will never forget

www.theguardian.com

You got me. Clicked on link but no dickpics.

 

[Bluechipblue]

Delaney has a book out about all things Sportswashing.


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I think it's actually all things shortswashing. The shitty arsed little turd.

 

[horlock_was_super]

I started a thread a couple of years ago about this, titled something like "is Gary Neville a secret dipper?"
He was willing them on to beat us to the title.
Strange when you think the dippers are their supposed arch rivals and City are irrelevant to the Rags.
Could it be him and Spitty are more than just work colleagues???

I am feeling very unwell thinking about the spawn they would produce!!

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Apparently because we're In what feels a crucial period for the game's history.

No - the crucial period was thirtyish years ago, when gate receipts stopped being shared, the PL was formed to keep more money for the bigger clubs, and the CL was formed, and expanded leading to a financial gap so big that even simple billionaires were priced out. Oh, and FFP to tie it all up neatly.

I read the other day a piece by the Liverpool "journalist" in the Athletic. He genuinely said that he felt the problems of today's football were caused by teams with unlimited wealth forcing up prices. It's his fucking job to know this

should be, but he clearly sees that his job is to blow smoke up Liverpool’s arse….and who fucking cares about the truth - he doesn’t that’s for sure.

 

[Shaggy]

Salford Trafford Rovers growing organically with the begging bowl out. Sir Rat is following in Sir tax dodgers steps looking someone else to fit the bill.

Fixed

 

[mancboy]

Delaney has a book out about all things Sportswashing.


****.

Have to love the irony of a man writing a book about sportswashing and taking a paycheck taking a paycheck from a paper owned by a former kgb agent and a saudi businessman, its like hannibal lecter being a spokesman for peta

 

[BillCarlisle]

Fuckin roan has to mention us again.

shoot the bastard!

Just as the feature began on BBC News I said to Mrs Bill that Roan would mention us, even though that news topic had feck all to do with City. That slug Roan never fails to deliver. Compare it to last week's bigging-up of Scruffy Jim on the same channel, and still there are those who maintain there's no agenda.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I started a thread a couple of years ago about this, titled something like "is Gary Neville a secret dipper?"
He was willing them on to beat us to the title.
Strange when you think the dippers are their supposed arch rivals and City are irrelevant to the Rags.
Could it be him and Spitty are more than just work colleagues???

I’m afraid you’ve bought into the lie about the United/Liverpool “rivalry” being the biggest in the world.
The truth is it didn’t exist in any meaningful way until the early 90’s. It was invented by both clubs and Sky tv in order to sell tee shirts and TV subscriptions to gullible idiots.

Sure, United hated Liverpool in the 70’s and 80’s because they were the best team in the country but that wasn’t a unique feeling limited to United fans. Everyone hated Liverpool in those times just like everyone hated United in the 90’s and early 00’s and everyone hates us nowadays. For the same reason.

The “United/Liverpool rivalry” is no bigger or more extensive than the “Doncaster Rovers/Liverpool” or “Ipswich town/United” rivalry. Ie: fans of two teams hate each other. Twas ever thus.

The whole charade started at the same time as the explosion in televised football coverage. If Sky had started a few years earlier than it did the media today would be full of stories calling the “Villa/forest” rivalry the “biggest in world sport”.

It’s a perfect example of how those two shit stained clubs manage to manipulate the media.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

He missed the apostrophe though.

Never change x

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The rags dislike him as much as on here.

I’m not sure that’s possible.

 

[eyalluvitt]

I’m afraid you’ve bought into the lie about the United/Liverpool “rivalry” being the biggest in the world.
The truth is it didn’t exist in any meaningful way until the early 90’s. It was invented by both clubs and Sky tv in order to sell tee shirts and TV subscriptions to gullible idiots.

Sure, United hated Liverpool in the 70’s and 80’s because they were the best team in the country but that wasn’t a unique feeling limited to United fans. Everyone hated Liverpool in those times just like everyone hated United in the 90’s and early 00’s and everyone hates us nowadays. For the same reason.

The “United/Liverpool rivalry” is no bigger or more extensive than the “Doncaster Rovers/Liverpool” or “Ipswich town/United” rivalry. Ie: fans of two teams hate each other. Twas ever thus.

The whole charade started at the same time as the explosion in televised football coverage. If Sky had started a few years earlier than it did the media today would be full of stories calling the “Villa/forest” rivalry the “biggest in world sport”.

It’s a perfect example of how those two shit stained clubs manage to manipulate the media.

I would say the Liverpool/United rivalry is one of the few that is worldwide, they live next door to each other in Frome, Stroud, Conway, Oslo, Timbuktu and Timbukthree, it gives the glory hunting masses from one horse towns a long way from the North West a sense of belonging to a rivalry. Everton and City fans should trademark the “rivalry de shipcanalio” when we both finish battling the authorities

 

[cheekybids]

Delaney has a book out about all things Sportswashing.


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I’m sure it’s just about the amount of times the US has had summer & Winter Olympics & about to get their 2nd World Cup, not long after China & Russia.

Surely he wouldn’t bother writing books about little Emirates….

 

[cheekybids]

Have to love the irony of a man writing a book about sportswashing and taking a paycheck taking a paycheck from a paper owned by a former kgb agent and a saudi businessman, its like hannibal lecter being a spokesman for peta

I do hope that will be the review you’ll leave.

 

[burning blue soul]

I’m sure it’s just about the amount of times the US has had summer & Winter Olympics & about to get their 2nd World Cup, not long after China & Russia.

Surely he wouldn’t bother writing books about little Emirates….

That squash-faced midget is a clueless clown. He writes racist drivel for racists and agendarists.
The world runs on misinformation these days, and he is spuds deep in producing and distributing it. All the while telling us little folk how to live our lives to his standards.
The irony of ironies.
He's the danger to free thinking democracy, not the liberator of it.

 

[cheekybids]

That squash-faced midget is a clueless clown. He writes racist drivel for racists and agendarists.
The world runs on misinformation these days, and he is spuds deep in producing and distributing it. All the while telling us little folk how to live our lives to his standards.
The irony of ironies.
He's the danger to free thinking democracy, not the liberator of it.

Agree with all that.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I’m afraid you’ve bought into the lie about the United/Liverpool “rivalry” being the biggest in the world.
The truth is it didn’t exist in any meaningful way until the early 90’s. It was invented by both clubs and Sky tv in order to sell tee shirts and TV subscriptions to gullible idiots.

Sure, United hated Liverpool in the 70’s and 80’s because they were the best team in the country but that wasn’t a unique feeling limited to United fans. Everyone hated Liverpool in those times just like everyone hated United in the 90’s and early 00’s and everyone hates us nowadays. For the same reason.

The “United/Liverpool rivalry” is no bigger or more extensive than the “Doncaster Rovers/Liverpool” or “Ipswich town/United” rivalry. Ie: fans of two teams hate each other. Twas ever thus.

The whole charade started at the same time as the explosion in televised football coverage. If Sky had started a few years earlier than it did the media today would be full of stories calling the “Villa/forest” rivalry the “biggest in world sport”.

It’s a perfect example of how those two shit stained clubs manage to manipulate the media.

Couldn't agree more, especially with the timing of the Premier League explosion in the early 90s, when 20 years earlier the main focus would have been on Don Revie v Brian Clough


We all know that it's mutually beneficial for both United and Liverpool to continually talk about their rivalry, but I do wonder what will happen when Neville and Carragher cease to be relevant (and it will happen) because there won't be an obvious replacement, especially when the proportional increase in younger City fans starts to kick-in with the Sky viewing figures.

For example Gael Clichy and Danny Sturridge have both started to appear on Sky, and regardless of how we view their punditry(and I actually think Clichy is quite good) they're not going to bore everyone senseless with tales of how Liverpool felt when United did the treble etc etc.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

Couldn't agree more, especially with the timing of the Premier League explosion in the early 90s, when 20 years earlier the main focus would have been on Don Revie v Brian Clough


We all know that it's mutually beneficial for both United and Liverpool to continually talk about their rivalry, but I do wonder what will happen when Neville and Carragher cease to be relevant (and it will happen) because there won't be an obvious replacement, especially when the proportional increase in younger City fans starts to kick-in with the Sky viewing figures.

For example Gael Clichy and Danny Sturridge have both started to appear on Sky, and regardless of how we view their punditry(and I actually think Clichy is quite good) they're not going to bore everyone senseless with tales of how Liverpool felt when United did the treble etc etc.

I like Gael Clichy. Gives really good insight and has no bias like he did last night.

Sturridge on the other hand is a complete disaster. Acts like a fanboy, offers no insight whatsoever and I think he's just there for the "bantz" with his mates Micah & Jamie

 

[mancboy]

I like Gael Clichy. Gives really good insight and has no bias like he did last night.

Sturridge on the other hand is a complete disaster. Acts like a fanboy, offers no insight whatsoever and I think he's just there for the "bantz" with his mates Micah & Jamie

and that is why he will be kept on and clichy wont, sly sports are just a glorified version of talkshite, where the stupid laughs and clickbait bullshit is king, the banter is cringingly forced.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I like Gael Clichy. Gives really good insight and has no bias like he did last night.

Sturridge on the other hand is a complete disaster. Acts like a fanboy, offers no insight whatsoever and I think he's just there for the "bantz" with his mates Micah & Jamie

Agree completely,.but Sturridge is hardly a Liverpool "legend" who can play the United-Rivalry card.