Media Discussion - 2023/24

[Groke]

Football journalism in the mainstream media is all but finished now. No point worrying about it.
There is nothing other than clicks & readership numbers. There's no cross subsidisation of sports from other parts of the newspaper or media group as they ain't making money either.
So you either get clicks and reads or you get let go. You see several journalists mention the numbers certain articles get & they can't be daft enough to ignore that. They don't need an editor or other manager to prompt them what to write about.

If City get big enough we'll get more and more articles and not just ones that are done to please the fans of the existing big 3 clubs.
Personally I genuinely hope that doesn't happen, I don't want us to have as many fans as them, or fans like theirs.

Equally though, negative articles about liverpool or utd would generate huge hits - hence the reason why bell ends like Goldbridge and that irish scouser are so popular, people tune in when they've lost. The issue is, is that certain clubs pull strings in the mainstream media, coupled with supporters of said clubs having so much represenation in the media - hopefully, that will change with time.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Talking of budgets, corrected for inflation this article from Sky states during piscan's time at the rags he spent the equivalent of £3.5Bn on players.

So lets work out the average...

Over 27yrs with £3.5Bn spent thats £130m rounded up per season.

Pep 8 yrs with £1Bn spent thats £125m per season.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...erdinand-top-all-time-inflation-adjusted-fees

But, but, but "they only spent what they won on the pitch".

More like the fuckers took a gun to the head of English football so they got a bigger slice of the pie, twerked the brand around the world for as much global capital as they could greedily eat, and then pissed their pants in public when it meant they'd created the conditions for their little funny neighbours to attract some of that global commercial investment money as well.

 

[fallowfield]

Equally though, negative articles about liverpool or utd would generate huge hits - hence the reason why bell ends like Goldbridge and that irish scouser are so popular, people tune in when they've lost. The issue is, is that certain clubs pull strings in the mainstream media, coupled with supporters of said clubs having so much represenation in the media - hopefully, that will change with time.

Yeah, positive or negative stories are equally read.
I don't think clubs pull strings in the media as such, but they don't have to (as per your other point - there's so many Utd/Liverpool fans in the media anyway).
But the clicks will win out in the end, whoever the journalists & media managers support

 

[Semper aggressus]

BBC football gossip page showing various media outlets touting our players again. Stones, Grealish and Eddie this time. All key players for us that we’d struggle to replace. I’ll assume it’s all bollocks.

Why don’t the media make up stories that Rice wants to go to Real Madrid as Arsenal yet again won fuck all, or say that Saka wants to go to Chelsea because, oh yes Arsenal won nothing …

But no, the media seem to think it’s title winning players that want to leave.

 

[JASR]

Talking of budgets, corrected for inflation this article from Sky states during piscan's time at the rags he spent the equivalent of £3.5Bn on players.

So lets work out the average...

Over 27yrs with £3.5Bn spent thats £130m rounded up per season.

Pep 8 yrs with £1Bn spent thats £125m per season.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...erdinand-top-all-time-inflation-adjusted-fees

It's a common theme from united fans 'oh, but Ferguson never spent the most', and yet he clearly did.

The factual logic of 'spend the most'='win the most' has been generally correct throughout football history, with the odd exceptions of mindless spending with utter crap management.

Pontificating about 'not spent as much as you've done' has always been one of the red flags about not engaging with a united fan. If they can't work out the basics of inflation (or sometimes theyve gone to the trouble of looking at RPI...rather than 'football' inflation!), when comparing spends, then there is little point in continuing, even before the City bingo card is filled out with a constant stream of fantasy bile.

Pep is by far the most successful manager the PL has ever seen (by per season average), by some margin, and he has done it by setting new heights in performance, revolutionizing how football is played, goals scored, points won, possession and control...and all that in the face of multi teams achieving far higher points than they did back in Ferguson's time, further highlighting the current competiveness of the PL, rather than the drudgery of the 90's and 00's when without the spend of Chelsea it would have been an unprogressive borefest of a biased coin toss between United and Arsenal for 20 years on who would win the league at the start of the season.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

We get emotional about the way our ownership handles the criticism but the reality is everything they are doing is working. It doesn’t sit easy with me though. I’d like to be a petty **** at times.

And I’m sure you are! ;-)

Not everyone is suited to running a global sports franchise business with over a €1Bn turnover, but hey ho!

But, it sounds like we might need your particular skill set (@cheekybids) this summer now that Paqueta looks like toast!

 

[StockportJB76]

Although there maybe a bit of negative press regarding how Utd are handling possible approaches for McKenna etc, there seems limited analysis as to whether the managerial situation will affect their performance in the Cup Final. If this was possibly Guardiola's last game, suspect the narrative would be very different.

If this is to be Ten Hag"s last game, United players likely to know and history tells us, their performance could well be affected badly. We know from history, when Manchini's fate had been sealed before the Wigan Cup final and also from Sven's last game, that things did not go well.

The press do not appear to consider the possibility however? Let hope we give them a good stuffing and will enjoy the fallout afterwards.

 

[Doctor Jimmy and Mr Jim]

Although there maybe a bit of negative press regarding how Utd are handling possible approaches for McKenna etc, there seems limited analysis as to whether the managerial situation will affect their performance in the Cup Final. If this was possibly Guardiola's last game, suspect the narrative would be very different.

If this is to be Ten Hag"s last game, United players likely to know and history tells us, their performance could well be affected badly. We know from history, when Manchini's fate had been sealed before the Wigan Cup final and also from Sven's last game, that things did not go well.

The press do not appear to consider the possibility however? Let hope we give them a good stuffing and will enjoy the fallout afterwards.

The other thing as well, I don't think I'd be too motivated as a player knowing that the football hierarchy of the club appear to have said they're open to selling all of the players bar about three. That must create a really inspiring and motivating environment, knowing they think you're crap and could be fucked off over the coming weeks.

Hope we absolutely batter the bastards.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

But, but, but "they only spent what they won on the pitch".

More like the fuckers took a gun to the head of English football so they got a bigger slice of the pie, twerked the brand around the world for as much global capital as they could greedily eat, and then pissed their pants in public when it meant they'd created the conditions for their little funny neighbours to attract some of that global commercial investment money as well.

Perfectly encapsulated.

 

[Donmcfc]

Some cynics — pretty awful people, in my view — have said that Matthew Syed is a rat-faced nonce, but I will have no truck with such suggestions.

I think he's more of a nonce-faced rat.

 

[cleavers]

BBC football gossip page showing various media outlets touting our players again. Stones, Grealish and Eddie this time. All key players for us that we’d struggle to replace. I’ll assume it’s all bollocks.

Why don’t the media make up stories that Rice wants to go to Real Madrid as Arsenal yet again won fuck all, or say that Saka wants to go to Chelsea because, oh yes Arsenal won nothing …

But no, the media seem to think it’s title winning players that want to leave.

Yes, but arsenal are not in a cup final against united tomorrow are they ?

 

[cheekybids]

And I’m sure you are! ;-)

Not everyone is suited to running a global sports franchise business with over a €1Bn turnover, but hey ho!

But, it sounds like we might need your particular skill set (@cheekybids) this summer now that Paqueta looks like toast!

I can run a bath & being petty but thank god we’ve got he right people running our club.

 

[Platt Lane 59]

If Ratty hadnt been such a shit manager he’d be living in Valencia. Noel spread his wings & succeeded, Neville flopped.

Gary Neville never even "flew" under his own steam, unlike Noel.
He was shoehorned into the Valencia job as he is Peter Lim's bitch.
He stayed at one club, well within his comfort zone.
Don't think he was even a captain (well he wasn't up to Bruce or Keane level) ?
He failed dismally as a coach with England under Hodgson.
Also, shockingly, I don't think he did anything to help his hometown team, seeing them kicked-out of the Football League.
Lastly, the Salford City FC, the class of '92 vanity project, looks like it will fail and they will follow Bury out of the League of 92 clubs.
Unfortunately, Sky still seem to think the sun shines out of his jacksy...

 

[Platt Lane 59]

Correct.

Add to that the fact that there were no limits on his spending or squad size and it becomes a very different environment that Pep has had to operate in.

Pep is better in every respect.

Jelly and cream, party hats, bouncy castle, crisps and nuts.

Don't forget the good fortune that the GPC had with the limit on signing foreign players.
Some of the Crass of '92 would not have had so many opportunities (e.g. Philip/Phil Neville would have been flirted like Robbie Savage), if English clubs could signed an open number of world players...

 

[Platt Lane 59]

BBC football gossip page showing various media outlets touting our players again. Stones, Grealish and Eddie this time. All key players for us that we’d struggle to replace. I’ll assume it’s all bollocks.

Why don’t the media make up stories that Rice wants to go to Real Madrid as Arsenal yet again won fuck all, or say that Saka wants to go to Chelsea because, oh yes Arsenal won nothing …

But no, the media seem to think it’s title winning players that want to leave.

Agree, it's the time of year when the media is hoping for an exodus from the Ethiad.
At least Stones, Jack & Ederson have great competition for their places, if they leave.
When Sergio was having his annual leaving articles, we had an inferior list of deputies...

 

[eversince 76]

Quick look at the headlines yesterday and today. Now don’t say anything yet, but my guess is City play an important game vs one of the media-loved-red-envy clubs. Come on. I’m right aren’t I?

Knéw it …

 

[cheekybids]

Agree, it's the time of year when the media is hoping for an exodus from the Ethiad.
At least Stones, Jack & Ederson have great competition for their places, if they leave.
When Sergio was having his annual leaving articles, we had an inferior list of deputies...

Don’t forget Pep, I’ve just had a Dipper going on that he’s going as his contract is up & he’s off. I said how many times do you think his contract has been due in 8 years…

 

[The Viking]

Iago Aspas (Celta Vigo): "Without the support of Manchester City, Girona would not be able to have those players"

 

[give it to gordon]

BBC football gossip page showing various media outlets touting our players again. Stones, Grealish and Eddie this time. All key players for us that we’d struggle to replace. I’ll assume it’s all bollocks.

Why don’t the media make up stories that Rice wants to go to Real Madrid as Arsenal yet again won fuck all, or say that Saka wants to go to Chelsea because, oh yes Arsenal won nothing …

But no, the media seem to think it’s title winning players that want to leave.

In the last few weeks I've had headlines on the Google news app that Eddy, Walker, Stones, Haaland, Alvarez, Jack, Rodri, Foden, Pep are all leaving.

 

[spacecadet]

Desperate clowns, desperate.