Media discussion - 2024/25

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surprisedbygrass said:
Exactly . I'd love some long form and non partisan journalism about football finance and ownership ( past and present ) , changes in fan demographics , injury patterns , ticket access and pricing , different models of young player development , what's it like living cheek by jowl to a football club , history , stadium development , transport for fans , costs for match going supporters , the impact of wall to wall live coverage .....I know none of this is immediate or mainstream but there's so much to learn about the wider stuff around football that most intelligent journalists could provide, if only , if only .... The current coverage is generally juvenile for the reasons you outline so unfortunately it's not the current direction of travel for the mainstream press . I'm usually mining You Tube and certain podcasts for this stuff .
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Modern journalism is basically intern kids targeted to create 20+ pieces a day which have to generate sufficient clicks to keep their boss off their back.

The majority of which are tripe like ‘Jamie Carragher said…..’ ‘Gary Neville claimed on The Overlap…’ and on and on.

The coverage of the empty seats compared to LFC winning the title is the perfect storm for our new breed of click whores.

Will never change - we’ve let them all get away with it for too long for it to ever change course now.

Listening to Pep’s presser on Friday - not one journalist asked about tactics - hardly a question about Forest - just garbage about empty seats and other such bollocks.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Oh dear! “The tectonic plates of sport have shifted!”??? LAUGHABLE!!!

It’s like bringing up ancient history every time something happens that tangentially references it! Even mentioning Pisscan is a joke!! Both clubs are living off ancient history, but then that’s all they’ve had for a generation or more!

I suppose they’ll hang their hat on 20, seeing as it equals United (and their song), but seriously?!

The “modern football world” in this country started with the Premier League and almost every top football reference is based on that fact. I guess 2 in 25 doesn’t sound good enough for a wankfest, so…

Slot did a very good job corralling the talent at his disposal, and they were fortunate that City’s very fast start fell off a cliff and Arsenal quickly became pretenders to the throne again, so the timing was fortuitous for him, but Slot took full advantage and rode his luck a time or two.

No detracting from their title win, as you can only beat the team(s) in front of you, which they did better than everyone else. That’s what it takes to win!

However, unless I have selective memory loss, I don’t remember anything close being written when we did the Treble, or when we broke the mould and won 4 PL Titles on the trot! But, then, “oil money” and “unlimited deep pockets” and “cheated” were all attached to our success, as if Mansour was deciding games with his cheque book and we didn’t have to comply with any of the rules that others did!!!
UFB!

Let’s get the fucking parade and red flares over and be glad as fuck we don’t have to do a Guard of Honour for them again, because I’m not sure Bernie would get away with it twice! ;-)

Insufferable twats…and that’s just the journalists, before you even mention a few of their players!
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Yes, Liverpool fans have morphed 2 (PL) titles into 20 titles.

And predictably the likes of Holt and all the other old Skool Dinosaur hacks are going along with it for clicks.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Oh dear! “The tectonic plates of sport have shifted!”??? LAUGHABLE!!!

It’s like bringing up ancient history every time something happens that tangentially references it! Even mentioning Pisscan is a joke!! Both clubs are living off ancient history, but then that’s all they’ve had for a generation or more!

I suppose they’ll hang their hat on 20, seeing as it equals United (and their song), but seriously?!

The “modern football world” in this country started with the Premier League and almost every top football reference is based on that fact. I guess 2 in 25 doesn’t sound good enough for a wankfest, so…

Slot did a very good job corralling the talent at his disposal, and they were fortunate that City’s very fast start fell off a cliff and Arsenal quickly became pretenders to the throne again, so the timing was fortuitous for him, but Slot took full advantage and rode his luck a time or two.

No detracting from their title win, as you can only beat the team(s) in front of you, which they did better than everyone else. That’s what it takes to win!

However, unless I have selective memory loss, I don’t remember anything close being written when we did the Treble, or when we broke the mould and won 4 PL Titles on the trot! But, then, “oil money” and “unlimited deep pockets” and “cheated” were all attached to our success, as if Mansour was deciding games with his cheque book and we didn’t have to comply with any of the rules that others did!!!
UFB!

Let’s get the fucking parade and red flares over and be glad as fuck we don’t have to do a Guard of Honour for them again, because I’m not sure Bernie would get away with it twice! ;-)

Insufferable twats…and that’s just the journalists, before you even mention a few of their players!
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jrb said:
Come on, is anyone really surprised about the media w@nkfest over Liverpool winning only their 2nd PL title in 32 years? We knew what to expect. The trophy presentation and parade w@nkfest is still to come.
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You think achieving double the number of PL titles won by Leicester City isn’t worthy of a month long media love in ?
 
Newman Noggs said:
I loved this bit;

"Ferguson was three and three-quarter seasons into his tenure before he delivered the trophy that changed United's history for the better. The parallels with that season and this are impossible to ignore given the respective league positions"

So, the only real parallel is that both teams were shit. I suppose that is impossible to ignore.
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Is there any mention that ferguson broke the British transfer fee record more times than any other club/manager?
 
jrb said:
Ha, yes!

When in reality it’s nowhere near the 750,000 that they always quote.

Liverpool’s population is roughly 500,000. Merseyside population is 1.5mill.

Minus Everton fans, Tranmere fans, and people who have no interest in football or turning out for the parade.

That’s a lot of Norwegians and Irish flying into Liverpool for the parade.
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I know of 39 Italians who won’t be there
 
Laughable the way the media and their ex players are trying to big this title up and saying the dippers are now England's greatest ever club, how can that be when the vast majority of their succes was in the last millennium. But in fairness they have now moved ahead both Leicester and Blackburn as regards premiership titles.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Oh dear! “The tectonic plates of sport have shifted!”??? LAUGHABLE!!!

It’s like bringing up ancient history every time something happens that tangentially references it! Even mentioning Pisscan is a joke!! Both clubs are living off ancient history, but then that’s all they’ve had for a generation or more!

I suppose they’ll hang their hat on 20, seeing as it equals United (and their song), but seriously?!

The “modern football world” in this country started with the Premier League and almost every top football reference is based on that fact. I guess 2 in 25 doesn’t sound good enough for a wankfest, so…

Slot did a very good job corralling the talent at his disposal, and they were fortunate that City’s very fast start fell off a cliff and Arsenal quickly became pretenders to the throne again, so the timing was fortuitous for him, but Slot took full advantage and rode his luck a time or two.

No detracting from their title win, as you can only beat the team(s) in front of you, which they did better than everyone else. That’s what it takes to win!

However, unless I have selective memory loss, I don’t remember anything close being written when we did the Treble, or when we broke the mould and won 4 PL Titles on the trot! But, then, “oil money” and “unlimited deep pockets” and “cheated” were all attached to our success, as if Mansour was deciding games with his cheque book and we didn’t have to comply with any of the rules that others did!!!
UFB!

Let’s get the fucking parade and red flares over and be glad as fuck we don’t have to do a Guard of Honour for them again, because I’m not sure Bernie would get away with it twice! ;-)

Insufferable twats…and that’s just the journalists, before you even mention a few of their players!
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“Liverpool go 1 clear of Blackburn & Leicester…….”
 
Bluekiwi said:
Last week one of our papers had a full-page article about Woods' Nottm. Forest getting back into the Champions League battle. Today there has been no mention of Forest getting beat in semifinal on our radio. I bet tomorrow's paper will also ignore the game. Even on the other side of the world the media try their hardest to ignore City.
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True to form - not one word about the FA Cup semi-final in the paper. Good job the puzzle pages are worth spending the money on the rest is garbage.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Oh dear! “The tectonic plates of sport have shifted!”??? LAUGHABLE!!!

It’s like bringing up ancient history every time something happens that tangentially references it! Even mentioning Pisscan is a joke!! Both clubs are living off ancient history, but then that’s all they’ve had for a generation or more!

I suppose they’ll hang their hat on 20, seeing as it equals United (and their song), but seriously?!

The “modern football world” in this country started with the Premier League and almost every top football reference is based on that fact. I guess 2 in 25 doesn’t sound good enough for a wankfest, so…

Slot did a very good job corralling the talent at his disposal, and they were fortunate that City’s very fast start fell off a cliff and Arsenal quickly became pretenders to the throne again, so the timing was fortuitous for him, but Slot took full advantage and rode his luck a time or two.

No detracting from their title win, as you can only beat the team(s) in front of you, which they did better than everyone else. That’s what it takes to win!

However, unless I have selective memory loss, I don’t remember anything close being written when we did the Treble, or when we broke the mould and won 4 PL Titles on the trot! But, then, “oil money” and “unlimited deep pockets” and “cheated” were all attached to our success, as if Mansour was deciding games with his cheque book and we didn’t have to comply with any of the rules that others did!!!
UFB!

Let’s get the fucking parade and red flares over and be glad as fuck we don’t have to do a Guard of Honour for them again, because I’m not sure Bernie would get away with it twice! ;-)

Insufferable twats…and that’s just the journalists, before you even mention a few of their players!
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Not to mention they had hardly any injuries to key players.
 
tommy116 said:
Laughable the way the media and their ex players are trying to big this title up and saying the dippers are now England's greatest ever club, how can that be when the vast majority of their succes was in the last millennium. But in fairness they have now moved ahead both Leicester and Blackburn as regards premiership titles.
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95 percent of Liverpool’s trophies were won when you could spend what ever you wanted, same with Stretford Rangers. How many more league titles would we have had if there wasn’t over 14 years of financial fair play rules in place?
 
freshie said:
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Their highest home attendance this season was against City, we get it they all turn out to see us but it’s still 30k so they had more fans at Wembley than go each game.

Average difference over a prem season between us both is about 500k …….
 
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