Media discussion - 2024/25

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petrusha said:
I certainly don't regard football journalism and football punditry in the modern age as a serious profession. They're two different fields, but both have dumbed down.

In the seventies, ITV had a panel comprising men such as Brian Clough, Malcolm Allison, Derek Dougan and Jackie Charlton. They were forthright and entertaining to listen to, but when they put across their views you also learned a lot about football. Now, Sky employ word-mangling chimp Merson ostensibly because thick viewers across the country identify with him. Then you have Rio and others who make it more about the bantz than any kind of meaningful insight,

In the area of football journalism it's no better, which is slightly comic when you bear in mind that some of them - and I'm looking at you, WhatsApp group - regard themselves as true intellectuals and are upset if you don't respect them accordingly. Yet they don't behave as if they're in a serious job. I recall Allyson Rudd in 2017/18 grading City's season as a B- at the halfway point when we'd dropped one single point because that was expected of us. Yet in August she tipped us not to make the top four.

If my professional opinions had done such a dramatic volte-face in as short a space of time as that, questions would be asked and I'd have to justify why. But then that's what happens when you're in a job where professional standards are expected. Only in the political arena can people get away with the kind of clumsy, underhand inconsistency that these fucking clowns are guilty of.
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Any post on a football forum that includes word-mangling chimp, volte-face and fucking clowns, gets my vote as post of the season.

If anyone has the sheer mendacity to argue the point, I'll see you outside.

Love it.
 
Damocles said:
To the tacticos people, he's the football dinosaur who doesn't know his segundo volantes from his registas and they get to feel superior because they read Spielverlagerung
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On RAWK this translates to:

My TicTok people say the lino's gorra second volvo and hes on the register and he reads Der Spiegel and likes a lager.
 
Damocles said:
Paul Merson is the best pundit in the country. Here's the problem; what fans and viewers think Paul Merson's job is, is not what Paul Merson's job is. Pundit isn't even the right word to describe him.

Merson's job has several facets to it. Firstly, he has to appeal to the Sky Sports home audience. That audience is mostly middle aged or above males. Secondly, he has to generate engagement to a mostly online audience which is a younger demographic. Thirdly, he has to generate chatter amongst the ever increasingly important Sky Sports pub audience. Notice nowhere here does the list include saying something of any value.

Merson is the perfect pundit because he ticks all boxes. The auld fellas who think the games gone and don't want none of this continental tippy tappy bullshit, he's their guy who explains football in a simple and emotional way. It's all passion and workrate and simplistic "back in my day" analogies no different from a MOTD pundit in the 90s. To the tacticos people, he's the football dinosaur who doesn't know his segundo volantes from his registas and they get to feel superior because they read Spielverlagerung and Michael Cox so they understand the game better than this 20 year tenure professional player who then spent another 20 years in the media. To the younger crowd, he is a baffling idiot who represents a conservative faction of English football and is essentially a clown there to poke fun at. There's obviously spectra inbetween all of this.

When Merson says something, you engage with it. You write on forums, you click the video, you talk to the lad in the pub next to you. Sometimes exasperated at how he's an idiot and sometimes not but either way, he generates engagement for the Sky Sports TV shows and that's what people actually pay for. Sky's business model is changing as their losses increase and people like Merson who can keep their older home audiences and their young online audiences simultaneously engaged are worth their weight in gold as they transition. It's why he was kept after the cull of Soccer Saturday.

Mitchell and Webb once performed a sketch about I'm a Celeb or one of those reality shows. You get people who watch because they like those shows. Then you get people who watch a bit and feel superior; that these shows are a waste of time and both the other viewers and the show itself are beneath them. But it doesn't matter whether you watch a show or ironically watch a show, the advertisers don't give a shit, you count exactly the same as the other viewers. If you're talking about Merson's comments, if people are looking up what he said on the website or on a tweet, you're viewing Sky Sports TV output and engaging with it. And they don't care what reasons you might or might not have to do that because your opinion on his words doesn't matter to them
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Spot on,this is probably why Sherwood has changed his tune on us recently he used to be very complimentary towards us but that’s not what the audience wants is it
 
Protein Junkie said:
The Fidget Spinner scoring on his European debut for the Real Bettys’s in the Conference is worthy of being in the headlines on the BBC website.
And we pay for this shite !!!
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He's on there as it's now 'Anthony's Real Betis' and in the media it's raggy clicks but, it does make me smile that as soon as someone leaves the swamp they perform better, he's not the first to fall into that category.

I'm honestly expecting fishfinger man to go on a mini goal scoring run in the next few games.
 
petrusha said:
I certainly don't regard football journalism and football punditry in the modern age as a serious profession. They're two different fields, but both have dumbed down.

In the seventies, ITV had a panel comprising men such as Brian Clough, Malcolm Allison, Derek Dougan and Jackie Charlton. They were forthright and entertaining to listen to, but when they put across their views you also learned a lot about football. Now, Sky employ word-mangling chimp Merson ostensibly because thick viewers across the country identify with him. Then you have Rio and others who make it more about the bantz than any kind of meaningful insight,

In the area of football journalism it's no better, which is slightly comic when you bear in mind that some of them - and I'm looking at you, WhatsApp group - regard themselves as true intellectuals and are upset if you don't respect them accordingly. Yet they don't behave as if they're in a serious job. I recall Allyson Rudd in 2017/18 grading City's season as a B- at the halfway point when we'd dropped one single point because that was expected of us. Yet in August she tipped us not to make the top four.

If my professional opinions had done such a dramatic volte-face in as short a space of time as that, questions would be asked and I'd have to justify why. But then that's what happens when you're in a job where professional standards are expected. Only in the political arena can people get away with the kind of clumsy, underhand inconsistency that these fucking clowns are guilty of.
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this is where the bbc are missing a trick, there remit to pander to the proletariat should be much less than the more commercial broadcaster. they should employ a good group of actual experts that speak their mind in an unbiased way. appeal to lovers of football instead of social media football fans.
 
Lord Blue said:
this is where the bbc are missing a trick, there remit to pander to the proletariat should be much less than the more commercial broadcaster. they should employ a good group of actual experts that speak their mind in an unbiased way. appeal to lovers of football instead of social media football fans.
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Wouldn't it be great if reporters just reported the truth though? All we have now are opinion pieces with many many facts missing.
 
Protein Junkie said:
The Fidget Spinner scoring on his European debut for the Real Bettys’s in the Conference is worthy of being in the headlines on the BBC website.
And we pay for this shite !!!
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It's depressing, isn't it. Anything remotely connected to the rags, however remote (and this is really quite remote) gets reported by that recipient of our TV Taxes. Real Betis' last two matches have a full report in the BBC website just because the flop was playing, yet apart from when they play Barcelona you don't get to read a single word about them. The BBC aren't reporting on Real Betis, they're spending our money to write yet another article about their beloved rags.
 
petrusha said:
Someone I know describes The Guardian's Simon Jenkins as the "wrongest man in Britain" based on the utter bollocks he comes out with in his columns.
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Someone else you know describes The Guardian's football "writers" as a bunch of racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, pseudo-intellectual KFA cunts who are so far up their own backsides you can see their eyes shining just behind their tonsils.
 
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