Media Thread 2017/18

[The Riot Club]

The BBC should know better, they're not trying to get advertising clicks either so have no excuse for such blatant bias. I assume the shit they continue to peddle is because most journalists grew up in the era of rag dominance so followed them like glory hunting sheep, and are now desperately trying to keep them relevant.

The Guardian is actually worse, its article today about Pep's ribbon and about Abu Dhabi human rights could have been written by a bitter rag, Cockney or Scouser on a fans forum. Ridiculous bias and unfounded criticism. Whoever wrote it will be in tears when we lift the Premier League title.

 

[Shirley]

The Guardian is actually worse, its article today about Pep's ribbon and about Abu Dhabi human rights could have been written by a bitter rag, Cockney or Scouser on a fans forum. Ridiculous bias and unfounded criticism. Whoever wrote it will be in tears when we lift the Premier League title.

It was written by David Conn, once a Blue until the takeover I believe.

 

[Bayblue]

The BBC should know better, they're not trying to get advertising clicks either so have no excuse for such blatant bias. I assume the shit they continue to peddle is because most journalists grew up in the era of rag dominance so followed them like glory hunting sheep, and are now desperately trying to keep them relevant.

The Guardian is actually worse, its article today about Pep's ribbon and about Abu Dhabi human rights could have been written by a bitter rag, Cockney or Scouser on a fans forum. Ridiculous bias and unfounded criticism. Whoever wrote it will be in tears when we lift the Premier League title.

Did you read the whole article?
The last sentence is:

“His [Guardiola’s] willingness to raise such issues and show solidarity should be applauded and followed by football people - and extended to human rights everywhere, including for those languishing in prison in the country of his employer”

There’s nothing there that’s either ridiculous bias or unfounded criticism.

 

[willipp]

The BBC should know better, they're not trying to get advertising clicks either so have no excuse for such blatant bias. I assume the shit they continue to peddle is because most journalists grew up in the era of rag dominance so followed them like glory hunting sheep, and are now desperately trying to keep them relevant.

The Guardian is actually worse, its article today about Pep's ribbon and about Abu Dhabi human rights could have been written by a bitter rag, Cockney or Scouser on a fans forum. Ridiculous bias and unfounded criticism. Whoever wrote it will be in tears when we lift the Premier League title.

The whole Abu Dhabi human rights argument is pathetic, it really is. I imagine 99% of people who raise this argument don’t give two shits about the people there or what happens in Abu Dhabi or any other far off land where human rights abuse takes place. If they did, they wouldn’t be waiting till now to show their fake outrage.

 

[Gazza]

The whole Abu Dhabi human rights argument is pathetic, it really is. I imagine 99% of people who raise this argument don’t give two shits about the people there or what happens in Abu Dhabi or any other far off land where human rights abuse takes place. If they did, they wouldn’t be waiting till now to show their fake outrage.

Correct, nobody seems to raise an eyebrow about the good old US of A's poor human rights record.

 

[aguero93:20]

It was written by David Conn, once a Blue until the takeover I believe.

Turncoat FCUM fan, or at least he was until his mates, "proper football people" were ran out of that club for lining their pockets.

 

[twosips]

Just watched this and really really liked Liam Rosenior as a pundit. Very articulate and intelligent young lad.

 

[KS55]

Did you read the whole article?
The last sentence is:

“His [Guardiola’s] willingness to raise such issues and show solidarity should be applauded and followed by football people - and extended to human rights everywhere, including for those languishing in prison in the country of his employer”

There’s nothing there that’s either ridiculous bias or unfounded criticism.

Yes, I thought the article was fair. We have to acknowledge that standards in our owners country are not the same as here.
There is, however, a lot of nonsense written about it by ignorant people and trollers, especially in the Grauniad.
The middle East is a constant battle between conservative, reform and religious groups and does not make governance easy. Does anybody know if Sheik Mansour is a reformer?
We should also not forget that the UK has much to answer for on the human rights front by taking part in an illegal invasion of Iraq and all the fall out from that episode.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Yes, I thought the article was fair. We have to acknowledge that standards in our owners country are not the same as here.
There is, however, a lot of nonsense written about it by ignorant people and trollers, especially in the Grauniad.
The middle East is a constant battle between conservative, reform and religious groups and does not make governance easy. Does anybody know if Sheik Mansour is a reformer?
We should also not forget that the UK has much to answer for on the human rights front by taking part in an illegal invasion of Iraq and all the fall out from that episode.

Nail. Head. Our role in destabilising the entire region, leading to a vacuum duly filled by murdering filth, should not be understated. Alas though the British Government or a consortium led by Tony Blair doesn’t own any English football clubs

 

[Blue Mist]

Yes, I thought the article was fair. We have to acknowledge that standards in our owners country are not the same as here.
There is, however, a lot of nonsense written about it by ignorant people and trollers, especially in the Grauniad.
The middle East is a constant battle between conservative, reform and religious groups and does not make governance easy. Does anybody know if Sheik Mansour is a reformer?
We should also not forget that the UK has much to answer for on the human rights front by taking part in an illegal invasion of Iraq and all the fall out from that episode.

Or the destabalisation of Syria, backed and even promoted by us...... and then when it got a bit tricky, abandoned by us. Oh and then when they try and flee the carnage in boats across the Med we wash our hands even more.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

The BBC should know better, they're not trying to get advertising clicks either so have no excuse for such blatant bias. I assume the shit they continue to peddle is because most journalists grew up in the era of rag dominance so followed them like glory hunting sheep, and are now desperately trying to keep them relevant.

The Guardian is actually worse, its article today about Pep's ribbon and about Abu Dhabi human rights could have been written by a bitter rag, Cockney or Scouser on a fans forum. Ridiculous bias and unfounded criticism. Whoever wrote it will be in tears when we lift the Premier League title.

Can’t agree. It’s an uncomfortable truth. Not one that I personally feel sufficiently worked up about it to demand our owners jack it all in, but a widely recognised truth (if you accept Amnesty reports at face value) nonetheless. Applying Western standards and values to countries with no real history of democracy and where many governments are little more than fascist theocracies, is always an iffy game, but I’d be interested to know which part of Conn’s article you thought was ridiculously biased and unfounded

 

[City & Blue Brazil]

The BBC should know better, they're not trying to get advertising clicks either so have no excuse for such blatant bias. I assume the shit they continue to peddle is because most journalists grew up in the era of rag dominance so followed them like glory hunting sheep, and are now desperately trying to keep them relevant.

The Guardian is actually worse, its article today about Pep's ribbon and about Abu Dhabi human rights could have been written by a bitter rag, Cockney or Scouser on a fans forum. Ridiculous bias and unfounded criticism. Whoever wrote it will be in tears when we lift the Premier League title.

I thought the guardian article was entirely fair comment .

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Can’t agree. It’s an uncomfortable truth. Not one that I personally feel sufficiently worked up about to demand our owners jack it all in, but a widely recognised truth (if you accept Amnesty reports at face value) nonetheless. Applying Western standards and values to countries with no real history of democracy and where many governments are little more than fascist theocracies, is always an iffy game, but I’d be interested to know which part of Conn’s article you thought was ridiculously biased and unfounded

This is a point I’ve been making.

The UAE is less than 50 years old as a sovereign state. It’s more or less based on a system of feudal monarchy and its culture and norms are those of an Arab & Muslim background. It took us over 700 years to get from Magna Carta to a parliament elected via a system of universal suffrage and a Bill of Rights in the late 17th century. Our attempts to unseat so-called strong-men like Saddam and Gaddafi and impose our own system of beliefs have been unremitting failures that have led to death and misery for millions. Meanwhile, Emiratis live in a stable and secure environment, under a government that looks after them very well, albeit one that doesn’t like dissent.

 

[SilverFox2]

I thought the guardian article was entirely fair comment .

Whilst the UK is far from perfect the media is usually allowed to publish its views not only on other countries but also on the UK.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Just find it slightly amusing that they come up with all these human rights issues now when it has been going on for more years than I can remember. Was in Oman in the mid eighties when British firms were making a killing building the new Oman and not one word about the condition of the working Asian population or HR violations. Not saying they shouldn’t bring them up but it is a convenient stick to beat the dog when they haven’t given a sh1t in the past.

 

[franksinatra]

Just find it slightly amusing that they come up with all these human rights issues now when it has been going on for more years than I can remember. Was in Oman in the mid eighties when British firms were making a killing building the new Oman and not one word about the condition of the working Asian population or HR violations. Not saying they shouldn’t bring them up but it is a convenient stick to beat the dog when they haven’t given a sh1t in the past.

Who is coming up with all these human rights issues, has not given a shit and is now showing double standards?

 

[roj]

The BBC should know better, they're not trying to get advertising clicks either so have no excuse for such blatant bias. I assume the shit they continue to peddle is because most journalists grew up in the era of rag dominance so followed them like glory hunting sheep, and are now desperately trying to keep them relevant.

The Guardian is actually worse, its article today about Pep's ribbon and about Abu Dhabi human rights could have been written by a bitter rag, Cockney or Scouser on a fans forum. Ridiculous bias and unfounded criticism. Whoever wrote it will be in tears when we lift the Premier League title.

If you’re outside UK, BBC website has advertising. I think they’ve become much more click baity in recent times.

 

[KS55]

This is a point I’ve been making.

The UAE is less than 50 years old as a sovereign state. It’s more or less based on a system of feudal monarchy and its culture and norms are those of an Arab & Muslim background. It took us over 700 years to get from Magna Carta to a parliament elected via a system of universal suffrage and a Bill of Rights in the late 17th century. Our attempts to unseat so-called strong-men like Saddam and Gaddafi and impose our own system of beliefs have been unremitting failures that have led to death and misery for millions. Meanwhile, Emiratis live in a stable and secure environment, under a government that looks after them very well, albeit one that doesn’t like dissent.

Absolutely right

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Yes, I thought the article was fair. We have to acknowledge that standards in our owners country are not the same as here.
There is, however, a lot of nonsense written about it by ignorant people and trollers, especially in the Grauniad.
The middle East is a constant battle between conservative, reform and religious groups and does not make governance easy. Does anybody know if Sheik Mansour is a reformer?
We should also not forget that the UK has much to answer for on the human rights front by taking part in an illegal invasion of Iraq and all the fall out from that episode.

A lot less people are executed in Abu Dhabi compared to our friends in the USA and China. We have been killing people in the middle east with drones for about ten years. Many of them are well away from combat zones and they never get a trial. The stench of hypocrisy from the bleeding heart liberals makes me sick.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

BT Sport text ad for the CL this week has let me know that this Tuesday "Manchester go head to head with Sevilla at 7pm".

c*nts.