Media Thread 2017/18

[Pigeonho]

For Neymar, it was glossed over.
In 2002 by the way, our players weren’t the target of such vitriol. A lot has happened since and a lot of people don’t like it.

Because we weren’t relevant and had no players as such. Arsenal did, and Seaman was. I got 2002 mixed up with 1998. United were relevant and Beckham the star player. Cue utter vitriol when he fucked up.

 

[Pigeonho]

Facts are not opinions , other fans can think what they want but we could compile a dvd of evidence that would stand up in a court of law but you won’t accept that & i’ve No idea why .

They could say the same. You won’t accept that. Thing is though you and others on here get offended when others don’t think the same - like as though you want it that everyone hates us. His can fans of every club be right in that same belief?

 

[2sheikhs]

Because we weren’t relevant and had no players as such. Arsenal did, and Seaman was. I got 2002 mixed up with 1998. United were relevant and Beckham the star player. Cue utter vitriol when he fucked up.

That’s one individual player, not a collection of players or club. Besides, all his misdemeanours were soon forgotten and next thing he’s hero worshipped. With Sterling,it’s relentless. Even digging him out for having breakfast.

 

[Pigeonho]

That’s one individual player, not a collection of players or club. Besides, all his misdemeanours were soon forgotten and next thing he’s hero worshipped. With Sterling,it’s relentless. Even digging him out for having breakfast.

Our club isn’t targeted, nor our players. Not in the eyes of other fans of other clubs. To them we are god in the eyes of the media and their clubs are targeted.
Sterling’s treatment is shocking. That I will say.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Because we weren’t relevant and had no players as such. Arsenal did, and Seaman was. I got 2002 mixed up with 1998. United were relevant and Beckham the star player. Cue utter vitriol when he fucked up.

I agree with this. The press always needs a scapegoat and it's not just about City. But it doesn't alter the fact that Raheem has been viciously bullied in the media for over 12 months now. It would have destroyed lesser men and may destroy him yet.
The next few weeks will be pivotal I think. He is a "confidence" player and Pep has worked hard to build up his confidence. It would be a disaster to see it shattered. Plenty of sportspeople have been destroyed by the media in this country.

 

[franksinatra]

I agree with this. The press always needs a scapegoat and it's not just about City. But it doesn't alter the fact that Raheem has been viciously bullied in the media for over 12 months now. It would have destroyed lesser men and may destroy him yet.
The next few weeks will be pivotal I think. He is a "confidence" player and Pep has worked hard to build up his confidence. It would be a disaster to see it shattered. Plenty of sportspeople have been destroyed by the media in this country.

It is a sad part of life sadly and extends far beyond sport to people in all walks of life, why people think it is unique to City is beyond me.

No doubt though Raheem has been treated badly, just as Beckham, Bobby Robson, Graham Taylor and others did previously. Sadly its more pronounced now because of the changing face of society and the obsession in this country with celebrities/sportsmen, influence of social media and the change from a daily paper to rolling 24 hour news, talk in shows etc.

There is some old adage about getting the media you deserve somewhere.

 

[2sheikhs]

Our club isn’t targeted, nor our players. Not in the eyes of other fans of other clubs. To them we are god in the eyes of the media and their clubs are targeted.
Sterling’s treatment is shocking. That I will say.

Let’s just see on Sunday then mate. If Sterling doesn’t score but has a good game, I predict he’ll still be subbed ( if he even starts).
If we concede a goal, it’ll be blamed on stones or walker. We saw that before the wc started in a friendly. I’ll admit that some in the media are far worse than others. I’m not saying it’s the whole of the uk media. Those without an axe to grind or have a vested interest tend to see the bigger picture and understand football. The likes of Hoddle and Tyler despise everything about us for some reason.
You say fans of other clubs feel that they come in for the same treatment, I disagree. I’ve listened for it and have never heard it.
I’ve never heard a commentator greet another team scoring with, “oh no”!!!

 

[Proy]

Our club isn’t targeted, nor our players. Not in the eyes of other fans of other clubs. To them we are god in the eyes of the media and their clubs are targeted.
Sterling’s treatment is shocking. That I will say.

Our club IS targeted and so are some of our players. The evidence is overwhelming. You choose to ignore that.

There are many existing old guard and part of the cartel that don't enjoy our new positioning. Money talks.

There is a much deeper under belly to it all and your generalisations are far too forgiving and show an alarming lack of knowledge.

 

[Pigeonho]

Our club IS targeted and so are some of our players. The evidence is overwhelming. You choose to ignore that.

There are many existing old guard and part of the cartel that don't enjoy our new positioning. Money talks.

There is a much deeper under belly to it all and your generalisations are far too forgiving and show an alarming lack of knowledge.

My knowledge is fine, just not hampered by pro club bias. As I’ve said, fans of other clubs say their clubs are targeted.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

It is a sad part of life sadly and extends far beyond sport to people in all walks of life, why people think it is unique to City is beyond me.

No doubt though Raheem has been treated badly, just as Beckham, Bobby Robson, Graham Taylor and others did previously. Sadly its more pronounced now because of the changing face of society and the obsession in this country with celebrities/sportsmen, influence of social media and the change from a daily paper to rolling 24 hour news, talk in shows etc.

There is some old adage about getting the media you deserve somewhere.

Think that back from when the media still had a few scruples left.

 

[Pigeonho]

Let’s just see on Sunday then mate. If Sterling doesn’t score but has a good game, I predict he’ll still be subbed ( if he even starts).
If we concede a goal, it’ll be blamed on stones or walker. We saw that before the wc started in a friendly. I’ll admit that some in the media are far worse than others. I’m not saying it’s the whole of the uk media. Those without an axe to grind or have a vested interest tend to see the bigger picture and understand football. The likes of Hoddle and Tyler despise everything about us for some reason.
You say fans of other clubs feel that they come in for the same treatment, I disagree. I’ve listened for it and have never heard it.
I’ve never heard a commentator greet another team scoring with, “oh no”!!!

How can you disagree fans of other clubs feel the same for their clubs? My boss, a rag, thinks Fernandinho is the most protected player in the entire league. Thinks he gets away with murder.

 

[Proy]

My knowledge is fine, just not hampered by pro club bias. As I’ve said, fans of other clubs say their clubs are targeted.

I'm not saying they don't, but you need to stop using that as a means to suggest that we are not targeted, because that is inaccurate.

Your very good at sitting on the fence, with sweeping generalisations about other clubs feeling the same way somehow infers that we are not targeted.

I'll say it again. You have a lack of knowledge. I and many on this board could give you a very detailed synopsis of exactly where we are targeted but it would be wasted on you.

Stop playing the wise guy.

 

[jrb]

Probably already been posted, but the Liverpool Echo is holding out an Olive branch to Sterling.

Even they think it's gone too far.

But will Liverpool fans? Probably not.

Raheem Sterling, Liverpool and why it's time to move on over his departure
Sterling isn't the most popular former Liverpool star -but perhaps it's time for Reds fans to forget, if they can't forgive

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...s/raheem-sterling-liverpool-its-time-14816826

 

[franksinatra]

Our club IS targeted and so are some of our players. The evidence is overwhelming. You choose to ignore that.

There are many existing old guard and part of the cartel that don't enjoy our new positioning. Money talks.

There is a much deeper under belly to it all and your generalisations are far too forgiving and show an alarming lack of knowledge.

No clubs managers have been more criticised over the past few years than LVG, Moyes and Mourinho and another of the representatives of the old guard Wenger has got stick in the media for years. How do you explain this? Its been constant praise this year which is contrary to the claims many on here made that even if we were successful that would never happen.

 

[Proy]

No clubs managers have been more criticised over the past few years than LVG, Moyes and Mourinho and another of the representatives of the old guard Wenger has got stick in the media for years. How do you explain this? Its been constant praise this year which is contrary to the claims many on here made that even if we were successful that would never happen.

I don't need to because I'm not talking about the media.

 

[2sheikhs]

How can you disagree fans of other clubs feel the same for their clubs? My boss, a rag, thinks Fernandinho is the most protected player in the entire league. Thinks he gets away with murder.

It’s a different thing altogether pidge.
ALL players at some time get favourable decisions no matter who they play for.
I’m talking about pundits and commentators targeting our players for criticism for no other reason than the club they play for. It’s not an issue concerning individual events, it’s a collective and too much of a collective to be mere coincidence.

 

[Pigeonho]

It’s a different thing altogether pidge.
ALL players at some time get favourable decisions no matter who they play for.
I’m talking about pundits and commentators targeting our players for criticism for no other reason than the club they play for. It’s not an issue concerning individual events, it’s a collective and too much of a collective to be mere coincidence.

Giroud was criticised the other night. Jesus was praised today and criticised. Ota was rightfully hammered, and he deserved no less. Sterling is targeted uniquely but that’s a weird one. Neymar was hammered today. If rashford replaces sterling and fluffs his lines, he will be slated. No treatment we get is unique. Ask around, we are the darling and so are our players - unless you support us and think otherwise and also as an aside think other clubs get favourable treatment.

 

[franksinatra]

I don't need to because I'm not talking about the media.

My apologies for jumping to such a conclusion. I think I was tricked by you responding to a message about the media from a poster and the fact you was writing in the media thread.

 

[2sheikhs]

No clubs managers have been more criticised over the past few years than LVG, Moyes and Mourinho and another of the representatives of the old guard Wenger has got stick in the media for years. How do you explain this? Its been constant praise this year which is contrary to the claims many on here made that even if we were successful that would never happen.

You’re confusing inescapable facts which nobody can deny with a dripfeed of shitty remarks which are baseless and a matter of opinion.
Who could say moyes and van gaal were a success? It’s quite clear they weren’t.
Who could say mourinho plays attractive football? His side clearly doesn’t.
To say otherwise is stupidly.
Singling out players and laying blame isn’t fact based, it’s opinion.

 

[flobo]

No clubs managers have been more criticised over the past few years than LVG, Moyes and Mourinho and another of the representatives of the old guard Wenger has got stick in the media for years. How do you explain this? Its been constant praise this year which is contrary to the claims many on here made that even if we were successful that would never happen.

The reason LVG, Moyes, and Mourinho are criticised by the media...Is because of bitter disappointment that their little darlings are not winning the PL
and what makes it worse for them is City are winning the PL in style