Media Thread 2020/21

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The perfect fumble said:
The comparison to Ferguson is utterly ridiculous. Ferguson stayed at a very rich club for a very long time, a club much richer than its rivals, he won a lot of trophies.

But no one talks about his mode of football today, no one tries to emulate the style of 1999 and not just because football has moved on.

He was not an innovator he was a mechanic, constructing a well oiled machine over many years, he won a lot of stuff, then he fucked off and left little behind, beyond screwing the club he purportedly loved. No one studies his tactics today, he brought nothing new to the game and he left nothing behind.

With the exception of a few sycophants in the media he's been mostly forgotten.
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I was also just having a quick look at Peps record. After this season he will have managed for 12 seasons. 8 League wins (hopefully 9 soon), 9 cups, plus 2 CL. So 19 major honours plus 2 still to play for this season. At Utd Fergie won 25 in 26 years.

You could also take away Bayern trophies which is a one team league and he still has 14 major trophies in 9 seasons plus 2 to play for this season.

The financial advantage we have at the moment is somewhat comparable to Utd during Fergies reign. Although I would argue Pep and City face more competition in the PL atm. I think a fair comparison of Fergies time at Utd and the level of competition is Spain over the last 10 years with 2 teams fighting for the title and occasionally another team challenging.

My point is if Pep manager as long as Ferguson he will win more trophies. That's before you even consider his style of play and tactical legacy.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
The comparison to Ferguson is utterly ridiculous. Ferguson stayed at a very rich club for a very long time, a club much richer than its rivals, he won a lot of trophies.

But no one talks about his mode of football today, no one tries to emulate the style of 1999 and not just because football has moved on.

He was not an innovator he was a mechanic, constructing a well oiled machine over many years, he won a lot of stuff, then he fucked off and left little behind, beyond screwing the club he purportedly loved. No one studies his tactics today, he brought nothing new to the game and he left nothing behind.

With the exception of a few sycophants in the media he's been mostly forgotten.
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That dodgy tv deal that carved up more money for the top six back when the premier league was formed and a one team from each country champions league gave him a head start. Add to that United spent some eye watering amounts of money on the likes of Pallister, Webb, Wallace and Ince to build a new team.

If you look at United’s dominance it seems to tail off when other teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and City catch up. He knew the game was up back in 2012, didn’t want his legacy tainting by being also rans to City.
 
peace frog said:
makes me laugh when people try to compare ferguson with pep, ill give ferguson was the better football manager, pep is the better coach , all over england teams are trying to play the "pep" way and imo this will enhance the national team as well.
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You've nailed it.

The world is full of people, in all walks of life, who are good at what they do, but the mark of greatness is what they changed in their time, a before them and an after them and what they leave behind.

By that yardstick Ferguson can't hold a candle to Pep.
 
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feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
That dodgy tv deal that carved up more money for the top six back when the premier league was formed and a one team from each country champions league gave him a head start. Add to that United spent some eye watering amounts of money on the likes of Pallister, Webb, Wallace and Ince to build a new team.

If you look at United’s dominance it seems to tail off when other teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and City catch up. He knew the game was up back in 2012, didn’t want his legacy tainting by being also rans to City.
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Agreed.

For all their shithousery, Wenger and Mourinho changed English football more profoundly than Ferguson.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
The comparison to Ferguson is utterly ridiculous. Ferguson stayed at a very rich club for a very long time, a club much richer than its rivals, he won a lot of trophies.

But no one talks about his mode of football today, no one tries to emulate the style of 1999 and not just because football has moved on.

He was not an innovator he was a mechanic, constructing a well oiled machine over many years, he won a lot of stuff, then he fucked off and left little behind, beyond screwing the club he purportedly loved. No one studies his tactics today, he brought nothing new to the game and he left nothing behind.

With the exception of a few sycophants in the media he's been mostly forgotten.
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I think that's the best short analysis of the rags and Ferguson I've read.
 
Sam Quek doing fighting talk on 5live today I'll give it a miss unless Colin Murray booked our Natalie to slap the obsessed Scouser into her bin.

Sadly not.
 
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