Media Thread - 2021/22

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kippaxwarrior said:
And that's the biggest problem with people like Harris. He states his opinion as fact and when he get challenged on it rather than engage in a conversation for him to respond he just Blocks people so other people take his opinion as fact
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It is intellectually dishonest. The employers of these people should have a think about what that does to their publication's credibility.
 
Chris in London said:
Let's examine this further.

The sanctions against Abramovic come into being this way:

1. Abramovic has close ties to the regime in Russia.

2. The regime in Russia has invaded a sovereign nation and is engaged in a war of aggression involving war crimes on an industrial scale.

3. The sanctions are part of an internationally co-ordinated effort intended to bring pressure to bear on the Russian government to stop and make reparations for the above.

4. The sanctions followed the invasion within a matter of days.

Let's now examine how close we are to bringing sanctions to bear against Sheikh Mansour on a similar footing.

1. Sheikh Mansour has close ties to the regime in the UAE. So far so good.

2. The UAE has not invaded any sovereign nation and is not engaged in a war of aggression involving war crimes on an industrial scale. The best that can be said is that it has backed the existing government in Yemen in a brutal civil war where the government is backed by several other nations (including our own). So not quite on all fours with Ukraine.

3. There are no sanctions whatsoever against the UAE generally or Abu Dhabi specifically that might be extended to Sheikh Mansour personally. There seems no prospect whatsoever that an internationally co-ordinated effort will be brought to bear against states such as the UAE and Saudi Arabia in this respect - and particularly not in current circumstances - in the same way as Abramovic. As has been pointed out on many occasions, the threshold at which the western powers would be likely to impose sanctions on the most pro-western regime in the middle east is really very very high.

4. The civil war in Yemen has been progressing for some time. It would really be quite surprising if after all this time an internationally co-ordinated sanctions package was now targeted against the UAE/Saudi Arabia at this time.

From this my own personal conclusion, and anyone who chooses to is free to disagree with me on this, is that there really isn't any similarity between the situation in Yemen and the situation in Ukraine that bears any sort of serious scrutiny. I also conclude that Gary Neville is a know-nothing rag fantasist gobshite who knows as much about international relations and middle eastern geopolitics as the small piece of earwax I removed from my left ear this morning knows about quantum physics.
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I like the cut of this mans jib.

But what say you on the clear building media campaign (see coverage of Assad's visit to the UAE) to paint our owner in a poor light with a clear view of pressuring an 'independent regulator' to remove 'state' funding as a football issue, rather than a political one? That is my (potentially unfounded) concern.
 
Norbiton said:
I doubt if either of these people would be in a job if they weren’t taking the line their bosses wanted them to take. No doubt more goes on behind the scenes than we ever hear about
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I agree, but I think the bosses have a bad policy.
 
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
You are correct, the response given looks to be a standard one issued by the FCDO regarding Syria, a government comment all the same though.

The UN though appear to be strongly signalling that they want clear dialogue being opened between Syria and other Arab nations and it would indicate strongly that this is the first step in that process.

The UN guidance as listed several pages back in this thread is clear to see but seems absent from any of these world leading political think tanks and publications such as The Athletic and all the usual equally qualified sports journalists who clearly are following their own agenda/bias to click bait on what is genuine suffering in Syria, Ukraine and Yemen and being demeaned and trivialised by these prícks remarks on which they appear to have designated themselves commentators on.
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It isn't the UN's guidance, it's the UN's envoys guidance, that's not the same thing. If you read the link it clearly states a wide variety of opinions from America, France, Turkey, UAE and Syria.
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
It won’t, unless something completely different came into view that as yet is not known.

There is zero equivalency between the sanctions placed on Abramovich due to Ukraine and Mansour owning City and any efforts by knobheads such as Neville trying to equate one with the other.

The fact he is doing so and we all know the real reasons behind his concern have totally uncovered the absolute disingenuous bell end he is, and to be using what is happening in Ukraine to do so should be treated with the contempt he deserves.
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There isn't any equivalency right now but things can change very quickly. This last month should have thought us that, yesterday's friend is tomorrow enemy. I'm not massively upto speed on Middle Eastern politics but from my layman's reading of events the countries in that region seem to be heading away from the traditional set up, where they get big brother (America) to give you a slap. They appear to be building their own independant block of power without the involvement of the US or UK.
 
Citizen Green said:
I like the cut of this mans jib.

But what say you on the clear building media campaign (see coverage of Assad's visit to the UAE) to paint our owner in a poor light with a clear view of pressuring an 'independent regulator' to remove 'state' funding as a football issue, rather than a political one? That is my (potentially unfounded) concern.
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The "state funding" jibes could be dangerous to those making them, our audited accounts show no state funding so the charge is defamatory and suggests our directors are criminals.
 
I tried searching 'jordan' and found several links to the CAS thread, but nothing today mentioning his on-air suggestion that Mansour had been 'running around with his arm around Assad'. I've never found jordan as despicable as some on here evidently do, but that is simply unacceptable bullshit!
 
Citizen Green said:
I like the cut of this mans jib.

But what say you on the clear building media campaign (see coverage of Assad's visit to the UAE) to paint our owner in a poor light with a clear view of pressuring an 'independent regulator' to remove 'state' funding as a football issue, rather than a political one? That is my (potentially unfounded) concern.
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UK & UAE are in bed together. Chill man & read this article

www.reuters.com

UAE could invest further $1.4 bln in Britain this year, UK trade official says

The United Arab Emirates could invest at least a further 1 billion pounds ($1.4 billion) in the United Kingdom this year after pledging 10 billion pounds this week to its investment partnership with the British government.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Do you really think the UK government would sanction Mansour, which is the ONLY legal way he could be removed from his post at City?
 
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