Media thread 2022/23

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It's always the way and it will be the same with Paris. Stone is already at it "A French senate report into the chaos is set to be released this week, amid claims it will cite "multiple organisational failure" (sic) ahead of Real Madrid's 1-0 win."

These reports will always cite organisational failures because that is the point of them - to stop the same thing happening again by improving the organisation of events. It doesn't mean that the number of Liverpool fans without tickets or with fake tickets wasn't a significant contributing factor and I would be very surprised if that isn't also addressed in the report
It’ll be the report for sure, not a chance it’ll make msm though.
 
Great work Aldo, twisted the facts & you’ve even made yourselves the victims! I know this is about Everton but the cheek of this article.


https://www.sundayworld.com/sport/s...tter-and-i-can-understand-why/1973880764.html



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They had a fantastic team in the mid-1980s and would have had a real chance of winning the European Cup if it were not for the bans imposed on English clubs following the Heysel Stadium disaster.

That was when the tide in this once-friendly local rivalry turned nasty. Everton fans blamed Liverpool for the chaos at Heysel, even though the stadium was unfit to host a match of that magnitude and there was some disastrous organisation by UEFA at the time.

UEFA clearly haven’t learned from that mistake after the disgraceful scenes we saw in last month’s Champions League final in Paris, but that’s another story. When you look back on the decision to ban English teams from Europe in 1985, it is clear that two teams were affected more than any other; Liverpool and Everton.
Okay. I get the Everton supporters blaming them. Why pour petrol on a wildfire by disrespecting 39 lives lost by displaying a banner then (Steau 86) at every derby since?
Did the club, liverpool, ever comment on it? Or even ban it?
 
Wimbledon, Coventry, Oxford, Luton, Norwich, Sheff Wed, West Ham, Derby are among the teams who missed out on playing European football because of the cult
For some it would have been their first or indeed only opportunity to do so in their history
But yes, aldridge, liverpool are the real victims here
You ridiculous, shameless, drunken, pigeon kicking gobshite

City missed out too.

Because there were no English clubs competing in Europe, we lost our nation coefficient points, which meant there were less places available for English clubs entering the UEFA Cup.

Our two 5th place finishes, would have entered us into said competition.
 
Great work Aldo, twisted the facts & you’ve even made yourselves the victims! I know this is about Everton but the cheek of this article.


https://www.sundayworld.com/sport/s...tter-and-i-can-understand-why/1973880764.html



Quote from the article …….

They had a fantastic team in the mid-1980s and would have had a real chance of winning the European Cup if it were not for the bans imposed on English clubs following the Heysel Stadium disaster.

That was when the tide in this once-friendly local rivalry turned nasty. Everton fans blamed Liverpool for the chaos at Heysel, even though the stadium was unfit to host a match of that magnitude and there was some disastrous organisation by UEFA at the time.

UEFA clearly haven’t learned from that mistake after the disgraceful scenes we saw in last month’s Champions League final in Paris, but that’s another story. When you look back on the decision to ban English teams from Europe in 1985, it is clear that two teams were affected more than any other; Liverpool and Everton.
Absolute gobsmacking nerve of the wanker to try and re-write history regarding Heysel and the Liverpool hooligans directly causing the unlawful death of 39 Juventus fans. Hope the Everton fans burn him at the stake, the deranged pisshead.
 
And this is why as a club and a fanbase they they are totally despised. They simply point blank refuse to take any responsibility or ownership of what happened that night in Heysel. Even now 38 years later they still insist it was somebody else's fault. Liverpool Football Club told the world everything they need to know about how they feel about Heysel when they arranged their 'Victory Parade' on the day of the anniversary of the disaster. On that very date, the club, the players and the fans were out on the street partying and celebrating. Totally unforgivable.
And yet pretty much ignored by the British media..........
 
’Chaos’ is an utterly reprehensible and completely inadequate way to describe the unlawful killing of 39 people, especially against the backdrop of the subsequent excuses Aldridge provides. They should never be allowed to rewrite history on this, which they are clearly and consciously attempting to do.

Lowlife cunts.
absolutely shows the sheer delusional nature of them or they simply don’t care they caused the death of so many innocent juventus fans, they’re so warped in their victimhood they consider the human tragedy they caused as some kind of inconvenience to their devine right to win more trophies, detestable orrible creatures mate.
 
Great work Aldo, twisted the facts & you’ve even made yourselves the victims! I know this is about Everton but the cheek of this article.


https://www.sundayworld.com/sport/s...tter-and-i-can-understand-why/1973880764.html



Quote from the article …….

They had a fantastic team in the mid-1980s and would have had a real chance of winning the European Cup if it were not for the bans imposed on English clubs following the Heysel Stadium disaster.

That was when the tide in this once-friendly local rivalry turned nasty. Everton fans blamed Liverpool for the chaos at Heysel, even though the stadium was unfit to host a match of that magnitude and there was some disastrous organisation by UEFA at the time.

UEFA clearly haven’t learned from that mistake after the disgraceful scenes we saw in last month’s Champions League final in Paris, but that’s another story. When you look back on the decision to ban English teams from Europe in 1985, it is clear that two teams were affected more than any other; Liverpool and Everton.
I attach below a post of mine from 3-4 years or so ago which may be of interest to you.

It quotes the respected sportswriter Brian Glanville's take on the subject from some 30 years ago. I was replying at the time to another Blue who had raised similar observations to yours. Perhaps Aldridge and his (no doubt) extensive back-up team of researchers might want to track down this contemporaneous take, from a highly respected observer of football over many decades, on events that surrounded Heysel and which subsequently impacted on that sublime Everton team of the mid-80s?:

"For your interest, herewith Brian Glanville's take on the matters of behaviours evidenced by Liverpool supporters and the media. This reflects the article you quote by Tony Evans (no relation!) and is taken from Glanville's book 'Champions of Europe; The History, Romance and Intrigue of the European Cup' (1991), some six and two years respectively after Heysel and Hillsborough. Glanville writes:

"As a club, Liverpool, alas, were not remotely matched by their notorious supporters.

Among these there was beyond doubt a core of decent, largely middle-aged, peaceful, pleasant fans, who would share the mature, sensible attitudes of the club itself.

There were also, as fans from other clubs all over the country knew all too well, thousands of brutalised, violent toughs, whose excesses had been known for many years.

When the detested Manchester United went to Anfield shortly before Heysel the city had seemed awash with hatred. Coaches and trains of United’s supporters were stoned. Mechanics would run out of garages to scream abuse at the coaches as they went by. When United, just a few weeks later, came once more to Merseyside to play Liverpool, this time in the FA Cup semi-final at Goodison Park, Liverpool’s supporters were firing flares into the Manchester fans’ sections.

Quite where Liverpool’s following had gained its spurious reputation for good conduct with a blinkered press was obscure.

But then, journalists see little or nothing from the Press Box, nothing of what goes on, often sinister and violent, in the surrounding streets and alleys, at railway stations. Unless they are privy to good, first-hand information, journalists accept the public, distorted image; in this case, a misleadingly benign one.

Nor would it be enough to say that violence among Liverpool fans could be explained by unemployment, the crumbling and deliquescence of a doomed city given the behaviour of Everton’s fans, in Rotterdam for the Cup Winners’ Cup Final two weeks before, which had been exemplary."
 
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