Media thread 2022/23

[waspish]

I’d rather the club called them out publicly with questions like ‘Why do you continually write negative articles about City yet when Utd or Liverpool have a big game coming up it’s always positive?’

I wish we were more confrontational.

They just say they write a lot of positive articles about Man city too..

 

[waspish]

Exactly.

Holt, you tw@t, did the Piss Can ever do the English Domestic Quadruple in 1 season? Imagine Fergie not doing that.

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And that kunt Bacon said it was impossible not one article quoted that when we won it! And the first question to pep after winning the domestic quad was are you on the take getting back handers!? Apparently after the press conference he got a pat on the back from a lot of them in there! Now that tells you everything about the media who can’t bring impartiality in to football when they follow another club, it’s full on bitter jealousy!

 

[waspish]

We do win the champs league it be about time and with the money spent they should of won it already!

 

[mrbelfry]

Sounded like my 11 year old when I tell him no. "Why?" What a clueless ****.

I don't know your son mate but that sounds a bit harsh. Does his mum like him?

 

[Inter Me Nan]

I don't know your son mate but that sounds a bit harsh. Does his mum like him?

Brutal lol!

 

[KS55]

You are incorrect. Net spend does not in any way reflect the true cost of buying or owning a player: For one thing, clubs accounts show amortisation of player transfer fee, which is not sufficiently reflected in a simple net spend metric; For another, the fees quoted on transfermarkt are simply the average figures published across various media sources, and can be wildly inaccurate; and finally, the transfer fee is only a portion of the cost of owning a player - wages can be 40-60% of that cost.

Using net spend is a bit like monitoring how much everyone had for breakfast by counting how many eggs they had!

I dont maintain it reflects the true cost of owning a player, but that does not render it u.s. In the real world as opposed to the world of analysis, player sales bring important income and, unless this has been changed that figure is included in the calculation of the spend ratio allowed under the new rules.
You are mixing analysis up with real world decisions.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Yes, but if we win the "treble", our "99" will contain the media's crushed nuts. They won't get over it in a hurry, but they'll carry on trying.

Does Holt mention how many more times Messi won it after Pep left...another decade went by.

 

[KS55]

Net spend has no impact whatsoever on the bottom line. All transfer activity goes through the balance sheet, bar any profit or loss which does go into the P&L account.

The new rules increase allowable losses to a maximum of €60m over three years and limit player costs, calculated as wage costs of relevant employees + amortisation/impairment + agent fees - profit on sale of players (or + loss on sale), to 90% this season, 80% next season and ultimately 70% from 2024/25.

Confused, not for the first time. I agree net spend has no direct bottom line effect but, as you say, any profit or loss does go to P&L so player sales income is important. Similarly, player costs calculation include any profit or loss. 70% ratio will be quite challenging for some.
While net spend as a figure is of limited use and accuracy for analysis purposes, I am loath to just ignore an important factor in the real world. Unless we are prepared to examine each club’s accounts, net spend is the only clue we have to their transfer behaviour. I’ll leave that deep work to you and Swiss Ramble and nod to net spend on the way past.

 

[threadkiller]

I dont maintain it reflects the true cost of owning a player, but that does not render it u.s. In the real world as opposed to the world of analysis, player sales bring important income and, unless this has been changed that figure is included in the calculation of the spend ratio allowed under the new rules.
You are mixing analysis up with real world decisions.

Respectfully, I'm not! Amortisation is how companies, including football clubs, record spending on assets. If we sign a player for £50 mil, on a 5 Yr contract, and then sell that player 2 years later for £40 mil, how is that recorded? For financial accounting/reporting, including ffp this would go down as a £10m profit. Net spend sees it as a £10m loss!

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Why is football journalisms general line of questioning so limited and poor?

Very very rarely do we come across anything of interest or substance - pathetic waste of oxygen is Paradise................