Mentality

[Gorton_Tubster]

I'm the harshest person on our teams performances, but was oddly calm on Wed night.



To me that's not a mentality thing, it's a squad talent thing. I've played and coached sports at a decent level and there's no way any player in our squad didn't give 100% of what they could in that environment on Wed. Yaya did. Kolarov would have. Kun did. But some of these would have known deep inside that they were in too deep, didn't have the engine anymore to compete on that stage, or didn't have enough players of a high enough skill level to match Real man for man. So in a way some of our boys(I'll use Yaya as an example here) were beat before the ball was kicked off. Is this a mentality thing or is it a player having a realistic expectation of the outcome based on their maximum level of performance? I think it's the latter.

Yup agreed. But I do believe there are coaches who can make a team believe they are better than they are. We need a little of what Leicester and Athletico have. Pep will bring it, more than him being a tactical genius, he will bring the winning mentality or fuck off somewhere else attitude.

 

[1961_vintage]

Routinely pusillanimous. Too nice and not anything like ruthless enough in terms of achieving success and reaching our potential.

 

[fatbloke]

I genuinely don't give a single fuck about the talent of the players, what division we're playing in, who we're playing or anything else for that matter as long as the players in those blue shirts give us everything they have I will support them win, lose or draw.

This last two seasons have been embarrassing, not due to results or playing poorly but the effort from a few of the players hasn't been right and the manager hasn't been strong enough to drop the players who haven't put in their maximum effort.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I genuinely don't give a single fuck about the talent of the players, what division we're playing in, who we're playing or anything else for that matter as long as the players in those blue shirts give us everything they have I will support them win, lose or draw.

This last two seasons have been embarrassing, not due to results or playing poorly but the effort from a few of the players hasn't been right and the manager hasn't been strong enough to drop the players who haven't put in their maximum effort.

For the same reason, the 99-00 promotion under Royle, remains one of my favorite campaigns
Without even trying, I can instantly recall victories at Bolton, Birmingham, and Blackburn, and late home wins against Ipswich, Portsmouth, Grimsby, and West Brom.

There were large periods during nearly all those games, where a draw, never mind three points, looked doubtful. However, we persevered and overcame our opponents through sheer, grit and determination.

On reflection, that team was limited, but honest, and in a strange way, I feel closer to those players than I ever will to the current crop.

 

[goatboy]

Because looking at the evidence this season, this current team was not capable of performing any better than they did against Real Madrid. I don't believe for a minute we could have done any better. Real perhaps could have done worse, had a red card or a penalty etc to shift the odds in our favour, but that's their performance and not ours.


To me that's not a mentality thing, it's a squad talent thing. I've played and coached sports at a decent level and there's no way any player in our squad didn't give 100% of what they could in that environment on Wed. Yaya did. Kolarov would have. Kun did. But some of these would have known deep inside that they were in too deep, didn't have the engine anymore to compete on that stage, or didn't have enough players of a high enough skill level to match Real man for man. So in a way some of our boys(I'll use Yaya as an example here) were beat before the ball was kicked off. Is this a mentality thing or is it a player having a realistic expectation of the outcome based on their maximum level of performance? I think it's the latter

sevilla away, kiev away, psg, bournemouth away, chelsea away show that we are capable of performing better than wednesday, and recently too.

also if its a squad talent thing then leicester dont win the premiership and athletico dont knock out barca, bayern or sit level with barca and a point above real in la liga. injuries have obviously played their part as well as lets just say curious management, but how many times have we been found wanting the last two seasons by a team that wanted it more than us. or you could just say had a better mentality than us

 

[Deleted member 58678]

We've not got that "being shit is unacceptable" "try scoring against us you cunts" "we're going to fucking beat you" sternness and arrogance that real top clubs have.

We have to be one of the softest touches in football. I cannot stand gentleness. Even in life I don't like it but in sport you cannot have one ounce of it, you have to be hard and ruthless and not give one inch for one second. You have to be prepared to bollock everyone if they don't put their bodies on the line for their teammates. When was the last time you felt that was part of our club?

 

[Keeper!]

We've not got that "being shit is unacceptable" "try scoring against us you cunts" "we're going to fucking beat you" sternness and arrogance that real top clubs have.

We have to be one of the softest touches in football. I cannot stand gentleness. Even in life I don't like it but in sport you cannot have one ounce of it, you have to be hard and ruthless and not give one inch for one second. You have to be prepared to bollock everyone if they don't put their bodies on the line for their teammates. When was the last time you felt that was part of our club?

Excellent comments.

Our whole club is too soft, fans included.

Everyone takes the piss out of wonderful club and we just roll over and take it.......enough is enough.

The fight back begins on the 1st June.....Pep won't roll over for anyone.... everyone at this club is going to get one gigantic kick up the ass....just a shame it's 3 years to late!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

If we want more passionate players then we might need to do a better job at getting behind the team. That said, the team should have been incensed by the leg breaker on Sterling and let Madrid know about it. Our performance wasn't good enough and nor was our attitude!

With all the shit we take in the media I would like see and feel a siege mentality. The bloke next to me in the Berabau did nothing but whinge all game. People are deluded if they think that's a winning mentality. Nor is it a description of a football fan.

Thank goodness that the vast majority of Blues sang their hearts out in Madrid in the second half. That said, we have a singing section where half the people in the blocks stand there with their hands in the pockets. It's pretty poor, despite the great efforts of 1894.

Pep will bring a better mentality but he can only do so much. We are all in this together.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Excellent comments.

Our whole club is too soft, fans included.

Everyone takes the piss out of wonderful club and we just roll over and take it.......enough is enough.

The fight back begins on the 1st June.....Pep won't roll over for anyone.... everyone at this club is going to get one gigantic kick up the ass....just a shame it's 3 years to late!

Everyone is going to get a huge shock at just how ruthless, stern and demanding Guardiola is. He makes Mancini look like a choir boy. I'm not sure all of our fan base realises this about Guardiola. Some of our players are going to get the shock of their lives when he walks through the door.

 

[come-on-barney]

I miss this word. Mancini used it in every interview - "we have a good mentality in this moment"

I also miss the spirit we had at times then. The whole atmosphere at the club is complacent, this season and last.

Is it too late to get Bellamy back and fit?

The whole atmosphere is flat, players flat, fans flat, the whole club has become lifeless. Pep won't stand for any of this shit and will make Mancini look like a pussycat.