Messi - a serious question?

I'm no Likkle Cityer thats for sure but i've got to be realistic and the chances of us getting Messi in the next few years are slim to none. He is at one of if not the highest profile club in the world, he is playing for the best football club in the world winning trophy after trophy and scoring goal after goal and he's also earning a few quid aswell

Why would he come to City when he can be paid a top wage and play for the best team in world football? Of course we could offer him x amount of money but he'd be getting taxed a lot more over here than he does in Spain but in terms of on the pitch what can we offer him that Barca can't?
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
I'm no Likkle Cityer thats for sure but i've got to be realistic and the chances of us getting Messi in the next few years are slim to none. He is at one of if not the highest profile club in the world, he is playing for the best football club in the world winning trophy after trophy and scoring goal after goal and he's also earning a few quid aswell

Why would he come to City when he can be paid a top wage and play for the best team in world football? Of course we could offer him x amount of money but he'd be getting taxed a lot more over here than he does in Spain but in terms of on the pitch what can we offer him that Barca can't?[/quote]

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Failsworth_Blue said:
I'm no Likkle Cityer thats for sure but i've got to be realistic and the chances of us getting Messi in the next few years are slim to none. He is at one of if not the highest profile club in the world, he is playing for the best football club in the world winning trophy after trophy and scoring goal after goal and he's also earning a few quid aswell

Why would he come to City when he can be paid a top wage and play for the best team in world football? Of course we could offer him x amount of money but he'd be getting taxed a lot more over here than he does in Spain but in terms of on the pitch what can we offer him that Barca can't?
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The tax laws on footballers as/is changing and will hammer spanish based players, the only way i see hime ever coming would be the new challenge!
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
I'm no Likkle Cityer thats for sure but i've got to be realistic and the chances of us getting Messi in the next few years are slim to none. He is at one of if not the highest profile club in the world, he is playing for the best football club in the world winning trophy after trophy and scoring goal after goal and he's also earning a few quid aswell

Why would he come to City when he can be paid a top wage and play for the best team in world football? Of course we could offer him x amount of money but he'd be getting taxed a lot more over here than he does in Spain but in terms of on the pitch what can we offer him that Barca can't?
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It's a reasonable and reasoned viewpoint mate and one I agree with in the main.

But you never quite know with The Sheikh ;-)
 
He's probably one of the few loyal players in the game. I could never see him leaving Barca. He is Barca.
 
I had a Chelsea fan and Arsenal fan at my house watching the game last night & we got on to the subject of Messi leaving and i got two very different response's the Chelsea fan was knowone can afford him not even you sugar Daddy (aimed at us). Now the Arsenal fan had a very different view he said maybe not this summer but i can see you getting 4th and buying some real quality over the summer. And he went on to say that we will have a really good run in Champ's League next season and maybe beating Barcelona on way will help but he also went on to say the whole football world know that City are going to be huge so why not be there from the start.
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
I'm no Likkle Cityer thats for sure but i've got to be realistic and the chances of us getting Messi in the next few years are slim to none. He is at one of if not the highest profile club in the world, he is playing for the best football club in the world winning trophy after trophy and scoring goal after goal and he's also earning a few quid aswell

Why would he come to City when he can be paid a top wage and play for the best team in world football? Of course we could offer him x amount of money but he'd be getting taxed a lot more over here than he does in Spain but in terms of on the pitch what can we offer him that Barca can't?
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Good valid point there mate.
 
i dont think he will ever leave barca. he's already getting paid insane amounts, why would he need more. and he is already in the best team in the world.
 
gman07 said:
I think its way to soon even to contemplate making an offer for Messi... firstly nothing under 250m euros would even be thought about... and lets look at it this way... he came to Barca at the age 12-13... they helped him get the treatment for growing since he was extremely short... they have done everything in their book to help him and his family...

he just love the way they play football and its backuped with lots of great players like, Xavi, Iniesta, Keita, Toure, Bosques, Poyol, Alves, Ibrahimovic... all those players help Messi on the pitch to get the area he needs to work... they are all fantastic passers that help each other to perform... and he is allowed to be himself and express himself with them...

What would be the challenge for him to go to us? Another league? More money (when he already is the best paid footballer on this planet)? What exactly are we in the grand scheme of things... we haven't yet played in Champs League, we haven't yet managed to qualify for european football for ages by our own doing (not counting fair play league as qualifying by own rights as in winning a spot that makes you qualify), we haven't won anything for 34 years, we have a lot of money but so does alot of teams in russia... we are on the brink of something great but we havent achieved anything yet... that might be looked at as a challenge by some people but realistic that is still a couple of years from getting a player like Messi to even consider us...

We bang on about our history and its important for us... as we do have a history... but in modern football we are just for now only an up and coming team.. a team that might be great in a couple of years but we have no modern history of being great and winning things... we need to get things done first before we can be reckoned as a great team... for now i think we dont have that great pulling power as we wish we have... we have money and a huge fan base... but what else?
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Good post!

You're right, we are just a reasonably sized club with a resonable history (like 15-20 other clubs in this country have) and have a small but well varied amount of success! That's it, nothing more and nothing less!

I'm more interested in which squad players we will be buying than i am any world stars right now or some top up and coming players from lesser leagues or teams who aren't quite top teams from bigger leagues, as they will be the ones who can help push us to be able to attract these world stars in years to come when it will be time for us to sign them!
 
It's not ridiculous to think that should Messi lead Barca to a La Liga and Champs League double he may fancy a new challenge.

Even if he has Barca blood in his veins it doesn't mean to say that he wouldn't fancy proving that he can do it in another league and the Prem would be the obvious choice.

Bear in mind he has been in Spain since his early teens, if he decides the Prem is his next destination then there is only one club that could possibly afford him.

You never know.
 
The Fixer said:
the only way i see hime ever coming would be the new challenge!
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Yes, that is likely to be the only reason a player like Messi (if such a thing exists!) would ever want to leave Barca, but you can't write off something like that ever happening.
 
ox-blue said:
the whole football world know that City are going to be huge so why not be there from the start.
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that's an important factor and one which most City fans overlook in their haste to do down their own club.

I don't think most players are hugely bothered about a club's "history".

It's their present and future which affect them.

If there were identical contracts on the table this summer from City and Liverpool, I'd wager most players would choose City even now.

"Kiss me where the sun don't shine, the past was yours but the future's mine"
 
Rammy Blue said:
It's not ridiculous to think that should Messi lead Barca to a La Liga and Champs League double he may fancy a new challenge.

Even if he has Barca blood in his veins it doesn't mean to say that he wouldn't fancy proving that he can do it in another league and the Prem would be the obvious choice.

Bear in mind he has been in Spain since his early teens, if he decides the Prem is his next destination then there is only one club that could possibly afford him.

You never know.
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Correct rammy, he even said it himself:

"The football in England is great, just as it is in Spain, but for now I'm very settled and I feel really valued at Barcelona;" he told uefa.com.

"I know the Premiership is a great league, but Barcelona is a big part of my life and I'm not thinking of anything else. With time, we'll see. You never know."
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danburge82 said:
You're right, we are just a reasonably sized club with a resonable history (like 15-20 other clubs in this country have) and have a small but well varied amount of success! That's it, nothing more and nothing less!
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See the above post. You're getting obsessed with something which is of little relevance to players.

And you do us down too.
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
Rammy Blue said:
It's not ridiculous to think that should Messi lead Barca to a La Liga and Champs League double he may fancy a new challenge.

Even if he has Barca blood in his veins it doesn't mean to say that he wouldn't fancy proving that he can do it in another league and the Prem would be the obvious choice.

Bear in mind he has been in Spain since his early teens, if he decides the Prem is his next destination then there is only one club that could possibly afford him.

You never know.
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Correct rammy, he even said it himself:

"The football in England is great, just as it is in Spain, but for now I'm very settled and I feel really valued at Barcelona;" he told uefa.com.

"I know the Premiership is a great league, but Barcelona is a big part of my life and I'm not thinking of anything else. With time, we'll see. You never know."
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The Fat el Hombre said:
Rammy Blue said:
It's not ridiculous to think that should Messi lead Barca to a La Liga and Champs League double he may fancy a new challenge.

Even if he has Barca blood in his veins it doesn't mean to say that he wouldn't fancy proving that he can do it in another league and the Prem would be the obvious choice.

Bear in mind he has been in Spain since his early teens, if he decides the Prem is his next destination then there is only one club that could possibly afford him.

You never know.
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Correct rammy, he even said it himself:

"The football in England is great, just as it is in Spain, but for now I'm very settled and I feel really valued at Barcelona;" he told uefa.com.

"I know the Premiership is a great league, but Barcelona is a big part of my life and I'm not thinking of anything else. With time, we'll see. You never know."
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Good mates with our Leo.

;)
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Have seen couple other threads re Messi is great, Messi - Let's buy him!

But on a more considered actual debate, and similar to the Kaka attempt...

What do you feel it would realistically take for an actual approach to be considered worthy of consideration by Barca.

At the end of the day, they are an astute business.

I look at where were are in our current development, visions for our future, and believe the magnitude of this one signing, would achieve so much in terms of worldwide recognition and progression on and off the pitch.

We will no doubt waste a lot more money trying to find the right formula in the coming seasons.

But for me, £150m plus Robinho would at the very least kickstart a process similar to Kaka.

Allied to wages of £1m a week - £48m a year (I know this sounds ridiculous, but he earns £29m a year now, what we would make off the back of him in terms of success and new fans)

£300m is a small investment in the grander scheme of things as it would progress us five years in two minutes.

The boy is 22-years-old - an agreement with Barca to allow him to return in three to four years (when he is at his peak) would also, I believe, deliver something of a unique proposal, again worth of consideration.

Our owners dream big, admittedly, the boy is Barca to his core, adored by them, but for the mere issue of debate, certainly attainable in terms of the market level we operate at.

Clearly Kaka had the final say, but there is no such thing as bad publicity. How can it be ridiculed going after the best player on the planet.

At the very least, it will 'smoke out' other quality players who will see how high our aspirations are.
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Like kaka ..... you will never see Messi play for an english club ....... some players would just 'rather' the continental feel and weather!
 
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